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Old 14th Jan 2009, 08:56
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Are you sure SkyEurope has B737-300?! I was thinking ther had just NG (-700)...!
any other guess welcome...!
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 09:28
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True enough Mr Gino!
However, they did operate 500's before, and in any case, you will have to go through a company course of sorts, where you will spend a few hours in the NG-sim. Ta-daaaa, you're good to go on 600-900 as well!!

Then again, this scheme might also have something to do with Air Slovakia (or something like that). They too are in dire need of money, and have been on the look-out for Boeing-drivers. Believe they have a very bad reputation though!! Beware!!!
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Without sounding like a complete and utter arse, I think Corendon just operate the 300 & 400 series B737's, precisely how many hudreds of B737/300-900 type rated First Officers were with European, precisely how many hundreds of XL's pilots were (are) currently qualified to operate the 300/400 series and I think you'll find that Sterling are rising from the ashes within the next few weeks.
As said above, it takes a few sim sorties to convert from an NG to a Classic (300-500). It is after all a common TR. The aircrafts systems are pretty generic and haven't really varied to any great extent. Albeit, the flying characteristics (due to the modified wing on the NG mostly) are different. Never flown the classics myself, however this is what i've been informed by colleagues. Therefore, believing this, I would say that all those experienced ex Futura, XL and Sterling NG drivers out there will more than likely get first look in. So again, sorry to say it, but I still suggest a 737 TR with 150 hours line training is as about as popular as a slap in the face with a wet blanket at the moment.

This time the offert is from Eagle Jet:
Central European bases and good opportunity of employment by the partner airline upon program completion once the 500 hours on type have been completed for about €18k.

Does anyone knows what is the paerter airline involved and which one will be the base?!
This time last year I'm certain it was Royal Air Maroc. The base: Casablanca.

Doubtful if employment was offered. If you take that other disatrous scheme on the Airbus running at the moment (see threat in 'Rumours and News' re bmi/atp scheme) then employment was also not offered with the partner airline. Rightly so.
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(So again, sorry to say it, but I still suggest a 737 TR with 150 hours line training is as about as popular as a slap in the face with a wet blanket at the moment.)

Who is offering 150 hours line training?

(I would say that all those experienced ex Futura, XL and Sterling NG drivers out there will more than likely get first look in)

Wrong, very wrong!
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(So again, sorry to say it, but I still suggest a 737 TR with 150 hours line training is as about as popular as a slap in the face with a wet blanket at the moment.)

Who is offering 150 hours line training?

(I would say that all those experienced ex Futura, XL and Sterling NG drivers out there will more than likely get first look in)

Wrong, very wrong!
Ok, then sorry - 100 hours block on the 737. Airlines are queing up with anticipation.

As for the comment about the XL, Futura and Sterling boys and girls. Probably true. There is unfortunately very little happening for them at the moment either.
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 18:45
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We have never suggested that we have airlines queuing up in anticipation, just one!
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Is E. Bayram still the flight ops in Corendon?
Because if it is still him and you are non turk, you will just enjoy your stay in AYT, it will cost several €€€€ for accomodation, food etc... for a very poor training.
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Old 16th Jan 2009, 09:20
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Bluevolta, is this an actual experience you’ve had or just rumour ?

Your comment seems to contradict the first hand experience of KazohiroNakamura who posted earlier in this thread. I may be wrong, but I don’t think he is Turkish ?

Your post implies that you may have been to Corendon, trained and not secured a contract afterwards ? Perhaps you could expand a bit on what you know ?

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Old 16th Jan 2009, 11:30
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I flew for Corendon and not on a "pay for hours" scheme.
I have had some of this guys sitting on the jumpseat for about 100 hours then been allowed to operate the controls with a real F/O on the jumpseat.
Some guys spent fortunes on housing and all kind of last minutes extra, the so called line training lasting a couple of months when it could have been done in 5 to 6 weeks max.
Having flown for them I know how poor is the training for the crew, complete lack of structured courses or so, but a lot of nice papers and certificates to be JAR compliant...
Turk are nice people but to work with/for them it is slightly different.
And with current situation 100 or even 200 hours on 737 classic is worth nothing because there is so many qualified guys with thousand hours on type.
Enjoy spending your money on a 737 for now at least
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 16:46
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I have read what most of you guys think about Trident & Corendon Line Training program.
Is there no one interested of this Line Training program?

If I understand it right you just pay for the LT 8750 Euro and after this training if you are the lucky one you could fly over the summer contract until october for Corendon?

Let say you are ready with your LT in the end of may and then start flying for Corendon until the end of october. It's look like your time in the 737 is maybe around 500 - 600 hrs, then you also get some money back (salary) for the time with Corendon.

I don't know, maybe I am crazy???
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Glycorex - are you really...I mean REALLY entertaining this idea?

What REALLY is the policy with Corendon? Will they actually employ you after this scheme. Do they actually need to? I reckon they need the 8750e more than they need a new inexperienced FO to be perfectly honest!

In the broad scheme of things Corendon is a small scale outfit. I wouldn't imagine they are 'cash rich.' If you look at other 'pay as you fly schemes,' we have seen major players such as Easyjet, Thomas Cook and now BMI enter the fray. They have all come under staunch criticism. Each one of these outfits entered into these schemes to generate extra income. NONE HAD ANY INTENTION OF HIRING THE CADET AFTERWARDS. FACT.

What you are left with is someone with 150 hours on type, a lot of debt and no job. Today's employment market speaks for itself. Can we not be realistic?
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 19:45
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Callsign Kilo,

Do please try maintain your lies to an acceptable level, whilst you insinuate that previous poster KazohiroNakamura is a liar, and we ask of you again, who is offering 150 hours on type?

Glycorex seems to have a reasonable grasp of what is being offered whilst you obviously have no idea!
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 19:53
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Callsign Kilo !

I just thinking!

Is there no pilots who get employed with Corendon after this Line Training here!

In that case just paying 8750 Euro for 100 hrs Line Training it's really stupid, yes!

I just wanna see if there is some pilots who make this Line Training for Trident before or right now and who is flying for Corendon at the moment and get some nice experience with the salary they talked about (1.500 Euro/Month)?

This is what I heard that Corendon Airlines have a requirement for a quantity of B737 First Officers for the Summer 2009 season and it is anticipated, subject to the candidate’s performance during the Programme and/or any unforeseen circumstances, that the candidate shall be offered employment by Corendon Airlines for Summer 2009 and the salary is expected to be 1,500.00 per month with accommodation and duty surface transportation provided.

I’ll hope this is a true story, if not someone really have to tell me this is a practical joke!

B737-300/400/500 First Officers (Low Houred (Type Rated) Opportunity) - 200310141 - Flight Jobs

http://www.tridentavia.com/files/tri...-_december.pdf
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 20:45
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TridentAvia,

I am just curios about this Line Training program i saw on internet!

It’s looking good but I don’t know so much about Trident or Corendon.

The big question is what Corendon say about the chance to get employment after the linetraining with Trident before you start this procedure?

Of course the chance is looking good to get a job if you not make some big mistakes under the linetraining.
If this is a serious concept they will let you fly but if not they could fail you because they don’t like the colour on your pencil if you understand what I mean!

It’s not so funny to pay all this money because you have wrong colour on your pencil.
This mistake could be a good reason for Corendon to not accept me if this is bad guys and they only take my money for 100 hrs line training?

I’ll hope this is a good concept with good people ( Trident & Corendon )!
I am just interested of this Line Training and of course to get employed after the Line Training, in other case this is a lot of money only for 100 hrs!!!
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Old 17th Jan 2009, 22:15
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GLYCOREX,

If you have taken the time to read through this thread then you will appeciate that TridentAvia do not currently pay to advertise on PPRuNE thus we shall refrain from advertising, without prior payment, on PPruNe.

You have obviously read the advertising elsewhere, perhaps you may have even applied, thus you will know where you may source the information that you seek but you are not likely to learn the 'FACTS' on a forum such as this, with all due respect to PPruNe.
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 00:07
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Once again - 100, 150, 200 or 500 hours. The actual number is inconsequential in my or any other person who shares my opinion. The fact that I continually and obviously aggravatingly get the number wrong shows my complete and utter lack of interest in what you offer. I live safe in the knowledge that I got paid during my line training.

I am simply painting people a picture of what is happening within the industry today. I have piers that have thousands of hours on 737s who are jobless and have been so for numerous months. This is the reality of the situation. However if people don't want to accept this, then fine; whatever! I have attempted to keep my 'lies' to a reasonable level.

This is developing into a thread bouncing slanging match which I no longer want to partake. It's becoming boring. People can judge for themselves.
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 07:39
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I just think this Line Training program is excellent!

I just want to know what the rumors says on PPRuNe about Trident & Corendon.

The most people here have misunderstood this Line Training program I think.
Well you pay for the Line Training and there is no guarantee for Corendon later on.

Therefor I should be very happy to see some more pilots done this program with contract with Corendon afterwards.
I saw Nakamura talking about this and he is the one who is positive about this of course, and I have already try to reach him with a private message without any result.
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 09:13
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Glycorex,

The advertising of this precise programme commenced during December 2008, how many individuals, since 3 weeks ago, do you believe have completed this programme and secured employment thereafter?
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 10:11
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TridentAvia,

Sorry but I don’t think you understand me?

This is not the first co-operation Trident have with Corendon right?
I think Trident have being on the market for some years right?

In that case there should also be some pilots who could tell us about Line Training programs like this one.

Many of these guys writing here are so negative, I just wonder why?
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Old 18th Jan 2009, 11:14
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Glycorex,

We hope that the moderators will allow us to explain to you that this cooperation with our client airline commenced during 2008. Until 3 weeks ago there had been no subsequent offer of employment and only one individual, a previous poster on this thread, has completed such a programme and despite that individual not being offered subsequent employment, at the time when he proceeded with the programme, he secured subsequent employment with our client airline and there is a second individual proceeding with the programme at this time.

With regards to all individuals who have applied for this subsequent employment opportunity, we commenced processing applications only 2 weeks ago.

Are the 'guys' here being so negative about our particular programme or about all such similar programmes in general?
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