Job or linetraining with A320 typerating and 350 hours??
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Job or linetraining with A320 typerating and 350 hours??
Hi guys.
I was wondering if anyone know anything about where to get the first job as low-timer and a new A320 typerating. I donīt care if itīs in Africa or Asia or whatever.. I donīt care if i have to pay some for the linetraining.
Is there any companies who offers linetraining except Eagle Jet?
ANY GOOD IDEAS??
Thank you very much
I was wondering if anyone know anything about where to get the first job as low-timer and a new A320 typerating. I donīt care if itīs in Africa or Asia or whatever.. I donīt care if i have to pay some for the linetraining.
Is there any companies who offers linetraining except Eagle Jet?
ANY GOOD IDEAS??
Thank you very much
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Whilst paying for line training may not be your preferred choice, There is most definitely a good chance of a well paid summer contract if you manage to get a couple of hundred hours before late spring, say with Atlas Jet (Turkey) or Atlas Blue (though they do that through Eagle, I believe).
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Well first of all, how can you know that. Have you tryed, because I know several who has and they got a job imediate! Their companys just donīt need pilots right now soe i was just wondering if anyone knew something more.
And just because you donīt wanna pay for anything, you donīt have to tell me what is stupid.
And what if I knew someone wich could get me in a job if i just had 100 hrs on type....??????? Would it not be stupid not to ask in this forum where to get it??????
Save the bitter comments for someone else..
And just because you donīt wanna pay for anything, you donīt have to tell me what is stupid.
And what if I knew someone wich could get me in a job if i just had 100 hrs on type....??????? Would it not be stupid not to ask in this forum where to get it??????
Save the bitter comments for someone else..
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Because I thought maybe other could do it cheaper and even maybe with a contract signed to it (like Air Asia did/ or does).
I donīt think Eagle jet does anything but "pure" line-training.
I donīt think Eagle jet does anything but "pure" line-training.
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Well,
Try Alteon, ATP, Karmaaviation, Global Pilot Training, Pegasus, CAE (several airlines work with them) and all the TRTO that have line training programs associated with the Type Rating courses (there are several).
Best regards,
Joao Caracol
Try Alteon, ATP, Karmaaviation, Global Pilot Training, Pegasus, CAE (several airlines work with them) and all the TRTO that have line training programs associated with the Type Rating courses (there are several).
Best regards,
Joao Caracol
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In donīnt know who you think you are or how stupid you are cause i just wrote that i wouldīnt be asking these qustions if it were not for a promise iīve been given regarding a job. Only requirment were to get 100 hrs. SO if I can get the job and I have the money so I have the possibility of buying the 100 hrs, then why you donīt just stay out of this discussion and let other people help each other. We donīt need a bitter *** like you.
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Peterdo, I know back in July/August a company in India, (Indigo), was hiring pilots on the A320 with 0 time on the plane. I don't now what the other requirements are, such as Commencial JeT PIC time, ttl time, etc. but I do know that they were accepting pilots with just the type only and no time. The flew you on the right seat for @ 100 hrs and then you move over to the left. Once again, I don't know if you have to have a certain amount of previous experience, etc. (I imagine you do).
Anyway, you would probably need to go via a broker, if you do, stay away from a guy named Blue Peterson and his company named Airline Design Beaureau. (they'll screw you!!, big time!!).
I know this for a fact, some of my friends, r still there, and they hate him. But, they didn't know this guy was such an As#%ole!!!.
There is a recruiting company called something like "happy landings", I think, do a google search, I don't have any references though.
Hopefully this way you can keep your money, (I understand u already have the type and 350 hrs, correct?), r ur 350hrs PIC? or SIC?, if it's PIC, there are other options, better then India!
Good Luck.
Anyway, you would probably need to go via a broker, if you do, stay away from a guy named Blue Peterson and his company named Airline Design Beaureau. (they'll screw you!!, big time!!).
I know this for a fact, some of my friends, r still there, and they hate him. But, they didn't know this guy was such an As#%ole!!!.
There is a recruiting company called something like "happy landings", I think, do a google search, I don't have any references though.
Hopefully this way you can keep your money, (I understand u already have the type and 350 hrs, correct?), r ur 350hrs PIC? or SIC?, if it's PIC, there are other options, better then India!
Good Luck.
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is line training really work?
I personally wouldn't consider paying for line training because i simply do not have that kind of money - but i've been doing some research on this and i cant understand why people always respond negatively to line training enquiries?
Is line training not the same as ''operational TRAINING on a twin-jet'' and therefore not work?
Sure the airline will profit from having you fly its passengers but then again my local flight school makes a profit from renting PA28's.
Cheers
Is line training not the same as ''operational TRAINING on a twin-jet'' and therefore not work?
Sure the airline will profit from having you fly its passengers but then again my local flight school makes a profit from renting PA28's.
Cheers
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Could be a good idea just to approach some companies directly, who knows they might even offer you a job. If not, then you might be able to make a deal with a company and get your line training for free.
The unfortunate state of the aviation industry in Europe and around the world keeps just getting worse. Paying for training, paying for type rating, paying for line training, paying for travel to and from home, paying for accomodation while not getting paid a salary or expenses. Where will it end and what will be next?
I can fully understand the desperation of young pilots wanting to make it into big jets immediately, but personally I am not or would not be willing to dish out thousands of euros for something that does not guarantee me a position and even then it's a no thank you for paying for training. Remeber that no position is guaranteed.
Obtaining a type rating, line training differences training guarantees nothing even if you have a promise for a job afterwards. Economy changes and crewing needs with it. A company that needs 10 crews today might be laying off people tomorrow. Don't get offended by me asking but, what happens to your promise of a job then?
With 300 hours some total time and perhaps a 100000 euro training for a CPL behind, it is time for a reality check. There are hundreds of unemployed and experienced pilots that have more time on a localizer back course approach than that 350 hours. They have multiple types on their licenses and probably heavy jet experience. They are after the same jobs as you are. Personally I would be very careful of investing money into a promise, unless you have a contract stating a position upon having the time in type with associated clause for payment of the training after joining the ranks of your company and in case of default from the potential employer, the payment in full of your line training.
Reading some of the comments on this thread, I'd tone down the rethoric a bit. A few of thos contributing to this thread might not agree with your idea about paying for line training, but that does not make the person stupid or does it?
The unfortunate state of the aviation industry in Europe and around the world keeps just getting worse. Paying for training, paying for type rating, paying for line training, paying for travel to and from home, paying for accomodation while not getting paid a salary or expenses. Where will it end and what will be next?
I can fully understand the desperation of young pilots wanting to make it into big jets immediately, but personally I am not or would not be willing to dish out thousands of euros for something that does not guarantee me a position and even then it's a no thank you for paying for training. Remeber that no position is guaranteed.
Obtaining a type rating, line training differences training guarantees nothing even if you have a promise for a job afterwards. Economy changes and crewing needs with it. A company that needs 10 crews today might be laying off people tomorrow. Don't get offended by me asking but, what happens to your promise of a job then?
With 300 hours some total time and perhaps a 100000 euro training for a CPL behind, it is time for a reality check. There are hundreds of unemployed and experienced pilots that have more time on a localizer back course approach than that 350 hours. They have multiple types on their licenses and probably heavy jet experience. They are after the same jobs as you are. Personally I would be very careful of investing money into a promise, unless you have a contract stating a position upon having the time in type with associated clause for payment of the training after joining the ranks of your company and in case of default from the potential employer, the payment in full of your line training.
Reading some of the comments on this thread, I'd tone down the rethoric a bit. A few of thos contributing to this thread might not agree with your idea about paying for line training, but that does not make the person stupid or does it?
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I enjoy reading Pprune and have done for some time, I like the discussion and sometimes heated debates but really don`t care for the disgraceful remarks above.
Please have some decorum and stop using the terminology you have graced this thread with MR Adverse-bump
Please have some decorum and stop using the terminology you have graced this thread with MR Adverse-bump
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I am sorry but I have to agree with adverse bump. I would love to know what passengers would have to say on a flight if the first officer did a pa explaning that in actual fact he is the highest paying costumer in the aircraft.
If I went to a doctor and before doing things to me I find out that he is paying to be there because no one would give him a job I would run a mile.
I work for an FTO and recently I have met lots of low hour pilots that payed for type rating + line hours and they where all kicked out when they reached the hours they had payed for. One of the pilots had spent over Ģ130000 on his Licences type ratings etc. Is that normal? How is he going to pay that money back? even if someone hires him he wouldnt even be able to pay the loan back and live. Not even with a Ģ40000 salary.
Think about it in a logical way why would an airline keep you and start paying you a salary after you have done the hours, when there is another dicĢ behind you willing to do same as you? The airline s will keep doing this practice as long as there i people like you.
How would you be able to enjoy flying your jet knowing that you are paying for it?
I think such practices should be illegal, and it wont be until an accident occurs.
I would love to know what long established captains have to say about people paying for jet hours?
If I went to a doctor and before doing things to me I find out that he is paying to be there because no one would give him a job I would run a mile.
I work for an FTO and recently I have met lots of low hour pilots that payed for type rating + line hours and they where all kicked out when they reached the hours they had payed for. One of the pilots had spent over Ģ130000 on his Licences type ratings etc. Is that normal? How is he going to pay that money back? even if someone hires him he wouldnt even be able to pay the loan back and live. Not even with a Ģ40000 salary.
Think about it in a logical way why would an airline keep you and start paying you a salary after you have done the hours, when there is another dicĢ behind you willing to do same as you? The airline s will keep doing this practice as long as there i people like you.
How would you be able to enjoy flying your jet knowing that you are paying for it?
I think such practices should be illegal, and it wont be until an accident occurs.
I would love to know what long established captains have to say about people paying for jet hours?
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probably as this kind of activity is degrading terms and conditions for those that follow.