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I’ve applied numerous times to Flybe, though it has been a while since my despondency began to get a grip! The last time I filled in an online application there was a question about “Did you do one stop modular or integrated training?”. I’m not sure if this acts as a filter but I recall many many months ago that Flybe recruitment had declared that they will only consider people from such a background ! Well if they feel it helps them whittle the pile down then so be it , but it seems rather petty and arbitrary !! Needless to say I did my CPL and IR at different FTO’s, mainly due to both mine and the FTO availability !! Who knew that such a well planned decision would exclude me from an operator I very much would like to fly for !! Never mind, back to my day job !!
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Just to confirm with this one stop modular statement. I completed my PPL/ME at my local club then ATPL ground school at another provider followed by CPL/IR with a commercial school up the road from BGS and to finish the MCC at AFT Coventry. Is this ok basically CPL/IR with one and MCC another?
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Flybe announcement in the local rag today stating £160m investment planned shortly for Aberdeen. 5 new aircraft and possibly 100(not all flight crew obviously!) jobs to be created. Also announcing healthy pre tax profits.
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This is an airline to watch guys - as far as choices go of employers in terms of security, the business model seems spot on!
E.g. Fuel is only 25% costs at FlyBe...
E.g. Fuel is only 25% costs at FlyBe...
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Yeah,
I agree with that!!
Watch this link..sounds like a secure airline.
YouTube - Insight, Outlook For Crude Impact On Airlines
I agree with that!!
Watch this link..sounds like a secure airline.
YouTube - Insight, Outlook For Crude Impact On Airlines
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Excellent link Thank You for that!
As far as recruitment goes I believe its on hold for new FOs until we get the 145 pilots converted onto the dash fleet. The problem has come because, we anticipated more of the 145 pilots to leave the company but because of the industry slow down and other airlines not recruiting those particular pilots they have stayed on for longer. With new dash aircraft arriving we have had to type rate those pilots to continue the phase out programme of the 145s.
I believe the airline is looking to get rid off all the 145 aircraft by mid 09. Filling in the odd spots with contract pilots while these crews go through type ratings on the dash.
Hopefully for all out there FO recruitment will restart soon!
Excellent link Thank You for that!
As far as recruitment goes I believe its on hold for new FOs until we get the 145 pilots converted onto the dash fleet. The problem has come because, we anticipated more of the 145 pilots to leave the company but because of the industry slow down and other airlines not recruiting those particular pilots they have stayed on for longer. With new dash aircraft arriving we have had to type rate those pilots to continue the phase out programme of the 145s.
I believe the airline is looking to get rid off all the 145 aircraft by mid 09. Filling in the odd spots with contract pilots while these crews go through type ratings on the dash.
Hopefully for all out there FO recruitment will restart soon!
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AKAFresh,
Can I just say that as a student who is an IR and an MCC from finishing the whole course, it's a real pleasure to actually see someone post hope and (apparently) good will for us newbies. It's not like we're not aware of the horrendous current situation, but so many posts on here seem to almost WISH us to fail, that it makes a real change to see someone hoping it upturns.
thankyou
Hopefully for all out there FO recruitment will restart soon!
thankyou
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Well, as a recently graduated cpl-ir-mcc looking for my first job with a ridiculous 190 hour real flight experience I admit that any reassuring point of view is particularly cheerful at the moment.
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Well guys rest assured flybe are still recruiting at the moment, AKA is spot on but there is still a small amount of attrition (very small). I guess due to the attrition a good friend of mine has an interview with them next week. Even though the online application system is closed I imagine they're pulling people in from the applications they already have, albiet very very few.
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Without giving away any state secrets, a typical initial course will have a couple of skippers / FOs converting from other types, one or two 1000hrs+ ex instructors / GA chaps, and then pretty much a 50/50 split between low hours integrated and modular pilots. Plenty of opportunities then for older modular guys.
If I was the flightcrew GM (and I'm not), my feeling would be that youngsters from an integrated course generally have slightly sharper hand flying skills but are more likely to jump ship to fly an electric wonderbus as soon as they get the chance, whereas older modular candidates are more likely to be interested in long-term prospects and command. I'd want a good mix of both types.
If I was the flightcrew GM (and I'm not), my feeling would be that youngsters from an integrated course generally have slightly sharper hand flying skills but are more likely to jump ship to fly an electric wonderbus as soon as they get the chance, whereas older modular candidates are more likely to be interested in long-term prospects and command. I'd want a good mix of both types.
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Just to confirm earlier posts on this thread and having attended two separate presentations given by Ian Cheese and Ian Baston at AFT in Coventry, all FlyBe aircrew applications must be initially routed via the online recruitment portal - there is no other way of circumventing the process.
The minimum requirements were clearly stated as thus:
* Type rated DHC8 Q400/Emb 195 (this pretty much g'tted you a job!!)
* 750 hrs + CPL/IR/MCC (Frozen ATPL)
* Integrated or 'one-stop' modular course attended in previous 6 months ('one-stop' in this sense was defined as no more than two different FTOs attended, excluding ATPL theories), eg PPL at school A, CPL at school B, IR at school C, MCC at school D obviously wouldn't count. I got a sense that doing one course, say a CPL, across two schools (for whatever reason) wasn't looked at too favourably.
Aplicants must also have flown a minimum 50 hrs in previous 12 months. Ian Baston said "we also like to see some history" meaning FlyBe will nearly always revert to your FTO for a reference, to be expected I suppose.
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The minimum requirements were clearly stated as thus:
* Type rated DHC8 Q400/Emb 195 (this pretty much g'tted you a job!!)
OR
* 750 hrs + CPL/IR/MCC (Frozen ATPL)
OR
* Integrated or 'one-stop' modular course attended in previous 6 months ('one-stop' in this sense was defined as no more than two different FTOs attended, excluding ATPL theories), eg PPL at school A, CPL at school B, IR at school C, MCC at school D obviously wouldn't count. I got a sense that doing one course, say a CPL, across two schools (for whatever reason) wasn't looked at too favourably.
Aplicants must also have flown a minimum 50 hrs in previous 12 months. Ian Baston said "we also like to see some history" meaning FlyBe will nearly always revert to your FTO for a reference, to be expected I suppose.
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my feeling would be that youngsters from an integrated course generally have slightly sharper hand flying skills
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Like everything, I suspect that it depends on the individual. Certainly mod students have more hours than your average integrated student, but it's how those hours have been accrued...many of the mod guys I met have built hours bimbling around from point A to point B. Integrated is less hours, but every single one is aimed at learning something or practicing skills.
Of course there will be mod students who have used their time brilliantly, but I would think the percentage is small....so perhaps there is the answer?
Of course there will be mod students who have used their time brilliantly, but I would think the percentage is small....so perhaps there is the answer?