Need advice: CTC or Similiar or self-sponsorship
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Need advice: CTC or Similiar or self-sponsorship
Hey all!
I'm looking for advice from either an Airline Pilot or someone who knows the industry very well indeed......
How good are these cadetships such as CTC, do i have a good chance of being accepted or not?
Should i start to study for my PPL now or not incase if i apply to a sponsorship scheme and i am rejected because i already have flying experience?
or....
Should i just get a loan and go for the self-sponsorship route by myself, get my CPL and apply to CTC ATP or just get the final rating myself?
or....
should i take a loan and apply to CTC iCP?
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Please, don't tell me to not worry yet or go and get a glider's licence!
Kind regards,
aviatordom
I'm looking for advice from either an Airline Pilot or someone who knows the industry very well indeed......
How good are these cadetships such as CTC, do i have a good chance of being accepted or not?
Should i start to study for my PPL now or not incase if i apply to a sponsorship scheme and i am rejected because i already have flying experience?
or....
Should i just get a loan and go for the self-sponsorship route by myself, get my CPL and apply to CTC ATP or just get the final rating myself?
or....
should i take a loan and apply to CTC iCP?
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Please, don't tell me to not worry yet or go and get a glider's licence!
Kind regards,
aviatordom
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aviatordom,
First things first, and you're going to be told this by everyone who posts on here so don't be offended.
You're 13 years old, the best thing you can do at the moment for your future flying career is to concentrate on your GCSEs and A Levels. If you don't have decent grades in those, the chances of you getting the airline job that I assume you're after is very small indeed.
In answer to the questions you posed though, when I went through CTC, around 1.5% of all initial aplicants were getting onto the scheme. I think that figure is now upto around 5%.
If you can get on the course, brilliant. At the moment, it is statistically the best way to get yourself an airline job right at the end of training.
HOWEVER...
It is by no means the only way, nor is it necessarily the best way. You're still at least 5 years off applying so things may well have changed by then.
I can't see having a PPL standing in your way of getting onto a training scheme, it will show you're keen to fly but at the same time, will not give you a major advantage.
So, to sum up, work hard at school, get the grades and then see what your options are then.
SJ777
First things first, and you're going to be told this by everyone who posts on here so don't be offended.
You're 13 years old, the best thing you can do at the moment for your future flying career is to concentrate on your GCSEs and A Levels. If you don't have decent grades in those, the chances of you getting the airline job that I assume you're after is very small indeed.
In answer to the questions you posed though, when I went through CTC, around 1.5% of all initial aplicants were getting onto the scheme. I think that figure is now upto around 5%.
If you can get on the course, brilliant. At the moment, it is statistically the best way to get yourself an airline job right at the end of training.
HOWEVER...
It is by no means the only way, nor is it necessarily the best way. You're still at least 5 years off applying so things may well have changed by then.
I can't see having a PPL standing in your way of getting onto a training scheme, it will show you're keen to fly but at the same time, will not give you a major advantage.
So, to sum up, work hard at school, get the grades and then see what your options are then.
SJ777
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The above advice is sound. Get the best grades possible.
If you can spare a bit of time working at the airport either in a flight school or even doing aeroplane washing, whatever, any thing to get a little foot in the door and make contacts. A part time job whilst at school is a good move too. You'll need the money even if you do make it onto a sponsorship scheme.
Just curious. Why don't you want to fly a glider?
If you work hard and get lucky, you can have my view.
If you can spare a bit of time working at the airport either in a flight school or even doing aeroplane washing, whatever, any thing to get a little foot in the door and make contacts. A part time job whilst at school is a good move too. You'll need the money even if you do make it onto a sponsorship scheme.
Just curious. Why don't you want to fly a glider?
If you work hard and get lucky, you can have my view.
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Your only 13, don't worry about your career and get concentrating on your school exams. I know it's not what you want to hear, but you have ages to go until you can get your PPL (another 3-4 years!)
Try joining your local air cadets or get some gliding experience :P
Try joining your local air cadets or get some gliding experience :P
Im going to go against the flow and say yeah the earlier you plan something the further ahead you will be compared to the guy stood next to you who planned a year or two later.
You can start your training for a PPL as soon as you can reach the pedals, the current record for the youngest person to fly across the atlantic is 6. You do however have to be 16 years old to fly solo and 17 years old to be awarded your PPL and take your skills test. (Kind of like your driving test)
Get good GCSE grades, don't worry about choosing A-levels until you have done your GCSE's as you will deffinitley know by then which subjects you are best at. Go with the flow, have an idea but choose subjects you will do well in not what you think will look good on paper. That being said some courses required A-level Maths or Physics so if they are your strengths strongly consider them. If you plan on going to university most degrees will vouch for your academic ability to pass the course.
The reason people say go wash planes on saturdays at 7AM is because it shows motivation and sounds great in an interview. You do not need to go overboard. Choosing to do your work experience at a local flying club and getting some flight training under your belt shows motivation without having to work for peanuts during your weekends. Your spare time can be used just as effectively taking part in clubs such as sports or completing a duke of edinburgh award.
At the end of the day your trying to avoid the question, so why havn't you done anything towards achieving your goal of becoming an airline pilot?
To answers your question about experience. So far the only cap on flying experience I have come across is maximum 60 hours which is plenty room to fit in a PPL minimum 45 hours required. That is an addition third of your total flying time you can do before they think they have to bash bad habits out of you. Despite that 60 hours requirement there was a candidate at one of the sponsorships I applied for with 78 hours well over the 60 limit.
You can start your training for a PPL as soon as you can reach the pedals, the current record for the youngest person to fly across the atlantic is 6. You do however have to be 16 years old to fly solo and 17 years old to be awarded your PPL and take your skills test. (Kind of like your driving test)
Get good GCSE grades, don't worry about choosing A-levels until you have done your GCSE's as you will deffinitley know by then which subjects you are best at. Go with the flow, have an idea but choose subjects you will do well in not what you think will look good on paper. That being said some courses required A-level Maths or Physics so if they are your strengths strongly consider them. If you plan on going to university most degrees will vouch for your academic ability to pass the course.
The reason people say go wash planes on saturdays at 7AM is because it shows motivation and sounds great in an interview. You do not need to go overboard. Choosing to do your work experience at a local flying club and getting some flight training under your belt shows motivation without having to work for peanuts during your weekends. Your spare time can be used just as effectively taking part in clubs such as sports or completing a duke of edinburgh award.
At the end of the day your trying to avoid the question, so why havn't you done anything towards achieving your goal of becoming an airline pilot?
To answers your question about experience. So far the only cap on flying experience I have come across is maximum 60 hours which is plenty room to fit in a PPL minimum 45 hours required. That is an addition third of your total flying time you can do before they think they have to bash bad habits out of you. Despite that 60 hours requirement there was a candidate at one of the sponsorships I applied for with 78 hours well over the 60 limit.
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I agree that GCSEs and A-levels are first and foremost importance. In addition, I would highly recommend joining the Air Cadets and doing as much with them as you have time, to including the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. This will help you develop confidence, leadership and team skills, all necessary to convince an airline you have the potential to be a Captain. This is even more important if you apply for a cadet scheme, as they don't recruit future FOs, rather future Captains.
Gliders are a heck of a lot of fun to fly and glider pilots are some of the smoothest ones there are. They develop incredible air sense and seat of the pants stick and rudder skills. The Air Cadets will usually enable you to get some glider time for free and if you are committed and dedicated, you could even become one of their instructors.
Gliders are a heck of a lot of fun to fly and glider pilots are some of the smoothest ones there are. They develop incredible air sense and seat of the pants stick and rudder skills. The Air Cadets will usually enable you to get some glider time for free and if you are committed and dedicated, you could even become one of their instructors.
