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ah the delicate sound of the McFugs...
Just as a matter of interest, how many of your candidates are going prematurely bald? we seem to have a lot of fugs that will soon be needing syrups, if you see what i mean...
Just as a matter of interest, how many of your candidates are going prematurely bald? we seem to have a lot of fugs that will soon be needing syrups, if you see what i mean...
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Reckon they'd take me on as a CPL+ME/IR ? I'd quite happily work for 18 months for them, no need to pay for my training, for a guaranteed flying job at the end of it!
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Hi Matt, I think that you stand a good chance with a CPL/IR. It might speed up the process from this end. Its a bit of a grey area at the moment the whole cadet w/PPL/CPL issue. What are the general thoughts about initial fuglies with CPLs? PPrune speak to me....!!
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Why on earth would you want to work in a non-flying role for 18 months just to get a job like that if you've already got a CPL/IR, matt hooks?
They spend all this money on the cadets just to get them on a 7 year bond, mainly so they can at least plan on getting two or three years in the LHS out of them later on, before they move on. Are you "really" sure you'd sign a 7 year bond for a 19 seat turboprop job if you already have a licence?
If I was in your shoes and had an 18 month plan to get a Highland job it would surely be better to get an FI rating, go next door (literally) to the aero club, spend a year there, get paid a better wage than the cadets and build up 1000 or so hours in the process - be polite to Nick, Linton, Alan and co and buy them a few pints on a Friday night - join Highland with 1,000 - 1,500 total time, do a year in the RHS and then go straight into the left. Better option for you and better option for them as well, it's captains they have trouble attracting / retaining.
They spend all this money on the cadets just to get them on a 7 year bond, mainly so they can at least plan on getting two or three years in the LHS out of them later on, before they move on. Are you "really" sure you'd sign a 7 year bond for a 19 seat turboprop job if you already have a licence?
If I was in your shoes and had an 18 month plan to get a Highland job it would surely be better to get an FI rating, go next door (literally) to the aero club, spend a year there, get paid a better wage than the cadets and build up 1000 or so hours in the process - be polite to Nick, Linton, Alan and co and buy them a few pints on a Friday night - join Highland with 1,000 - 1,500 total time, do a year in the RHS and then go straight into the left. Better option for you and better option for them as well, it's captains they have trouble attracting / retaining.
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I think Luke hit the nail on the head there. Recent Highland recruitment would suggest its the 1000 hours guys theyre after. As is the case with most Regional's(Logan's, Eastern's, etc etc) they all have retention problems and need people with quick command potential. Low hours guys are out of favour, they take too long to get a full ATPL. Go for the FI, plenty people i've seen over the last 12 months disappearing of to all of the before mentioned.
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Good to see the sleepless nights not keeping you off the computer Luke!!
And as always good advice. FO's at Highland average just under 500 hours a year. An FI next door gets 900. And earns more or less what a HWY FO earns in the process. Therefore 10 months at HFS would take you to 1000 hrs. One year RHS and you have a command a lot quicker than going straight in min hours. And having had a hell of a lot more fun in that year than you would have otherwise had.
You have worked hard for your licence matt, don't sell yourself short.
And as always good advice. FO's at Highland average just under 500 hours a year. An FI next door gets 900. And earns more or less what a HWY FO earns in the process. Therefore 10 months at HFS would take you to 1000 hrs. One year RHS and you have a command a lot quicker than going straight in min hours. And having had a hell of a lot more fun in that year than you would have otherwise had.
You have worked hard for your licence matt, don't sell yourself short.
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Well, actually I wasn't thinking of working non-flying for 18 months, but wouldn't be averse to some hard graft round the place whilst flying at the same time. I've got to be a better training risk than an ab init person, or even a PPL, as the only cost would be the relevant TR. And the flying would looks interesting and bloody good experience!
I'm not Scotland based so would have to relocate, but I think the work in ops/ground roles would be good experience to put on the CV, and getting paid to fly too.
Good luck to the guys applying for the cadetship, it's a damn good start in the aviation world!
edited to add, I can do the "prematurely bald" bit, is that a qualifying requirement?
I'm not Scotland based so would have to relocate, but I think the work in ops/ground roles would be good experience to put on the CV, and getting paid to fly too.
Good luck to the guys applying for the cadetship, it's a damn good start in the aviation world!
edited to add, I can do the "prematurely bald" bit, is that a qualifying requirement?
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I am NOT going bald! I just have an abnormal distribution of follicles, concentrated towards the back of my head!
At least I don't look like Woody Allen with a bout of giantism, and even more importantly, I'm not a scummy Northerner!
Gay.
At least I don't look like Woody Allen with a bout of giantism, and even more importantly, I'm not a scummy Northerner!
Gay.
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Thats the biggest load of bollocks since "you'll make the April type rating, don't worry". Uneven distribution of follacles my ar$e!
All i'm saying is that the current crop of fuglies are starting to look a bit like "The Hills Have Eyes", thats all.
And its more Postman Pat than Woody Allan...
All i'm saying is that the current crop of fuglies are starting to look a bit like "The Hills Have Eyes", thats all.
And its more Postman Pat than Woody Allan...
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Your quite wrong there, that 'the hills have eyes' look is a standard requirement! Derrangement is a pre requisite for Highland its how we survive up there. Still all that time bunking off catching Z's on the fisheries crewroom lazy boys should help! - Eh boys!
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Just as a matter of interest, how many of your candidates are going prematurely bald? we seem to have a lot of fugs that will soon be needing syrups, if you see what i mean...
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Ah the old "unusual follicular distribution" problem, I know it well.
I'm sure that as I get older gravity is acting upon my hair, causing it to fall through my skull and to sprout from all points south.
Ears, nose, chest, back, in fact the only place I have trouble cultivating a decent amount of growth is on my head. Sounds like I'm prefectly suited!
I'm sure that as I get older gravity is acting upon my hair, causing it to fall through my skull and to sprout from all points south.
Ears, nose, chest, back, in fact the only place I have trouble cultivating a decent amount of growth is on my head. Sounds like I'm prefectly suited!
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Argh, I came in England for that kind of scheme (and I have this one especially in sight).
And they open the selection just at the same time I finally got a job
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I really hope they'll reopen a session soon, my 25 are not far...
And they open the selection just at the same time I finally got a job
.I really hope they'll reopen a session soon, my 25 are not far...
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How long till we start to hear from them about whether we've got an interview or not?
I put an application in, got a letter of reciept and am now just eagerly awaiting words of "come on up to INV" or "go away!"
I put an application in, got a letter of reciept and am now just eagerly awaiting words of "come on up to INV" or "go away!"
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Highland is now closed I think
Got in touch with Highland today and the cut off date was the 31st March with interviews starting the week of the 7th Apr. Gutted just missed the cut I think. Has anyone been sucessful through this route. I'm looking at re-locating to the NE of Scotland and this would be an ideal option for me but how one is supposed to survive on 300 notes per month is beyond me but alas we shall see. It appears to be a very good route into ATPL and one I'm certainly going to look at. With a wife and child it may prove to be the most lucrative as Mrs H isn't to happy at the prospect of spending 60K+ on my flying dreams haha. Anyone know of any other avenues similar to this one???
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Aaron,
£300 per month doesn't sound like a lot, but the fact that they provide accomodation and pay all the bills means that all you really have to buy is food and petrol... you're below the tax threshold too, which is nice
Obviously, having a family that you have to provide for may change things a bit.
£300 per month doesn't sound like a lot, but the fact that they provide accomodation and pay all the bills means that all you really have to buy is food and petrol... you're below the tax threshold too, which is nice
Obviously, having a family that you have to provide for may change things a bit.
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Thanks Will, yeah when you pu it like that it doesn;t sound to bad at all. Way I see it is that with the opportunity to gain all the licences i'd need to fly it be an ideal way to get off and running. Might fall short on the age thing but we'll wait and see how it goes in the future. serving in the military I;m not afraid of a bit of hard graft to get where I want to be. I'm robably among the minority on here who'd actually relish in flying turbo prop, island hopping for a good few years. Sound grea to me but as I said we'll wait and see. Fingers crossed I'm what they're looking for. Total coincidence that my wife and I are keen to live up that neck of the woods anyway. Cheers for the comments though.
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Hi folks,
Atlantic Airlines have recently seen two Fugs (Cadets) leave, mainly in my view as they didn't quite fit the profile of this specialist job. I would say now is as good a time as any to apply, so...
If you have (or nearly have):
A PPL (either NPPL or JAA should be OK)
A JAA Class 1 Medical
A driving licence
Are aged 18-26 (upper limit is flexible-ish)
Are enthuastic, energetic, open-minded, love flying and are willing to take a bit of HARD WORK.
And are able to live/work in the UK as a permanent resident...
Then go to this website: http://www.flyaft.com/contentok.php?id=74
Fill in the form and get it sent in. The scheme is undergoing some change at the moment - you may be offered a cadetship/training subject to a payback of a proportion of your training costs when you finish. However, this is still a great deal - you will be almost guaranteed secure flying employment for several years and it's FUN if you are happy to work hard in the short term while focussing on long term gain.
The scheme isn't traditionally advertised very publicly, and word tends to be spread through personal contacts and Atlantic Flight Training students. So, you've been spoon-fed the essential info...what are you waiting for?!
Atlantic Airlines have recently seen two Fugs (Cadets) leave, mainly in my view as they didn't quite fit the profile of this specialist job. I would say now is as good a time as any to apply, so...
If you have (or nearly have):
A PPL (either NPPL or JAA should be OK)
A JAA Class 1 Medical
A driving licence
Are aged 18-26 (upper limit is flexible-ish)
Are enthuastic, energetic, open-minded, love flying and are willing to take a bit of HARD WORK.
And are able to live/work in the UK as a permanent resident...
Then go to this website: http://www.flyaft.com/contentok.php?id=74
Fill in the form and get it sent in. The scheme is undergoing some change at the moment - you may be offered a cadetship/training subject to a payback of a proportion of your training costs when you finish. However, this is still a great deal - you will be almost guaranteed secure flying employment for several years and it's FUN if you are happy to work hard in the short term while focussing on long term gain.
The scheme isn't traditionally advertised very publicly, and word tends to be spread through personal contacts and Atlantic Flight Training students. So, you've been spoon-fed the essential info...what are you waiting for?!
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There's a bit of hard work and there is pure slavery! I was always told if it looks too good to be true then it most likely is and this is no exception. Lets be sensible, the only way into even a half decent airline RHS job is through the well established FTO's. Sorry to say it but that's the facts.
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