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Old 17th Mar 2008, 22:49
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Silly question perhaps but why do they specify you need a PPL before hand?
Maybe because they want people who already have a proven interest in flying?

Or perhaps they want someone with proven hands on flying skills?

Or maybe to weedle the number of applicants down (though that looks unlikely looking at the steady decreasing number that they recieve).

I'd say the requirement of a driving licence is much more questionable, though obviously they send you on driving missions during the training phase.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 08:16
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I have a mock skills test this weekend, and all going well, a few hours brush up. Next weekend, skills test. Cutting it a little fine if I want to be PPL qualified by 31st.....to apply or not to apply....which tick to put in which box....so frustrating!
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 10:03
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Maybe because they want people who already have a proven interest in flying?

Or perhaps they want someone with proven hands on flying skills?
It raises an interesting argument in my eyes regarding the suitability of PILAPT testing etc versus hands on flying experience. Are they suggesting perhaps the tests used by OAA, Cabair etc are not up to scratch?

They would probably receive more applicants were they drop this requirement, allowing them more choice from a wider and more varied spectrum of prospective airline pilots.

Sounds like a good scheme nonetheless.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 10:40
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If you have shown you are willing to spend your money and your time on working towards a pilot career for yourself it shows you are motivated and clearly know what you want. That motivation and willingness to spend own money on it provides a bit of security for Highland when they take you on.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 11:10
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Consider: Regardless of how close it *might* be - PILAPT testing ain't flying. 30-40min flying is A) Cheaper than PILAPT (on a small scale) B) actually shows up what your flying is like. At the end of the day play enough computer games and you can get through pilapt testing fairly unscathed...but there's no substitute for flying.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 19:07
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It raises an interesting argument in my eyes regarding the suitability of PILAPT testing etc versus hands on flying experience. Are they suggesting perhaps the tests used by OAA, Cabair etc are not up to scratch?
These schools are businesses, much like Highland and Atlantic. However the schools get their money from students, whereas the Cadet schemes cost the airlines money. It is therefore in the airline's interest to know that their money is being well spent. I'm not saying that the PILAPT tests are no good, but how successful would Cabair be if they only took on 5 students a year?

If you started as a Fugly without a PPL, the airline would risk spending several thousand pounds getting a cadet halfway through his training, only for the cadet to discover he doesn't really like flying or isn't any good at it. It goes without saying that if you start with a license, thats another 7K the company doesn't have to spend on you...

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Old 18th Mar 2008, 19:19
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wtf is a fugly???
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 19:26
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I presume hingey means an unattractive candidate with the addition of f**k infront of ugly.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 19:43
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I think it's a good idea to have a PPL requirement, shows that the applicant is commited and is already into flying. Much less risk. Would be interesting to see the amount of applicants to the big FTOs if they were to have a similar requirement. But then again if you go integrated you don't even get a PPL, so I guess it wouldn't work.
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 20:20
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My question is:

on the application it ask for the breakdown of hours, isn't P1 the same as solo are are they wanting to know the number of hours flying P1 after license issue?

secondly, what details do they need for exams passed?

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Old 18th Mar 2008, 21:58
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Thumbs up Fugly

From what i can remember the details for the exams passed are just what grade/exam/mark you got.
A PPL comes in handy from the moment you start. We sometimes have the opportunity to fly crew around before they go off on their day's flying (Becky). Also apart from the actual flying involved with a PPL there is the theory, TAFs, METARs, general airlaw. It comes in handy knowing how to decode them when one the the Fisheries 406s ring up on the Satphone from 60N14W asking what the Stornoway TAF is.

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Old 19th Mar 2008, 13:27
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Tired-flyboy, I believe when they ask for P1 hours they are after post-licence issue stuff.
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 14:56
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Why is the scheme called Fugly?
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 15:14
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Fugly is the un-official name for a Cadet, I think it comes from one of the early Atlantic cadets being called something rhyming with 'trucking ugly'.
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 15:18
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'Cause all the original candidates were, apparently, effin ugly.



This has naturally all changed now. Apart from Skippy and Bucket obviously.
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 15:23
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Steady on will.i.am! My Mum said I was the best looking boy at school!
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 15:32
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Will.i.am, watch your tongue dog or i'll pimp you Westwood style..
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Old 19th Mar 2008, 17:14
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on the application it ask for the breakdown of hours, isn't P1 the same as solo are are they wanting to know the number of hours flying P1 after license issue?
When asked for P1 hours, always put your total command time (supervised solo counts as P1)

I think it comes from one of the early Atlantic cadets being called something rhyming with 'trucking ugly'.
Don't suppose you Scots know the original Fugly do you...?

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Old 19th Mar 2008, 18:04
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Cheek

This has naturally all changed now. Apart from Skippy and Bucket obviously.
It seems getting a 99% average in the ATPLs hasn't provided macfug any modesty.
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Old 20th Mar 2008, 13:16
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Jealous ZW?? lol I know I am!! £50 what?
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