Accommodation for GCAT TR pilots!!!!!
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Dear Artie,
Tell me, where the hell on this forum have I advertised?
I think it's really sad to see that students have to pay these unaffordable price tags we see on the market.
Can you explain to me how the hell a B737 FFS should cost 1000€ per hour? I know that an FFS is an expensive investment, but still, if you tell me 500€ per hour, I would say ok, that's normal. That would still leave the TRTO a 150€ per hour pure profit margin.(If the FFS is used for at least 8 years)
Many students are very naïve and accept to pay these prices.
That's the reason why since a little over ten years, all airlines have switched to the self-sponsored training scheme: "If there are people crazy enough to pay for it, why should we pay for their training any longer?"
Now also the TR is about to enter that category.
At this pace, in about 5 years all airline pilots will pay to fly and unfreeze their fATPL.
Sorry but paying 62000£ for 150 hours of flying is over 350£ an hour (considering the remaining 60£/hour for ground school, simulators...). And most of these hours are flown in the US, where the same hours cost 90£.(incl instructor).
They are earning 260£ per hour on you guys, do you realise?
Sorry to post it in this forum but I think that things should be clear as they are.
Also dear students, be careful, many members of Pprune are actually FTO marketing departments who operate under innocent names such as "Artie". They will try to influence your decisions, so do use your common sense to evaluate facts.
Thank you
Tell me, where the hell on this forum have I advertised?
I think it's really sad to see that students have to pay these unaffordable price tags we see on the market.
Can you explain to me how the hell a B737 FFS should cost 1000€ per hour? I know that an FFS is an expensive investment, but still, if you tell me 500€ per hour, I would say ok, that's normal. That would still leave the TRTO a 150€ per hour pure profit margin.(If the FFS is used for at least 8 years)
Many students are very naïve and accept to pay these prices.
That's the reason why since a little over ten years, all airlines have switched to the self-sponsored training scheme: "If there are people crazy enough to pay for it, why should we pay for their training any longer?"
Now also the TR is about to enter that category.
At this pace, in about 5 years all airline pilots will pay to fly and unfreeze their fATPL.
Sorry but paying 62000£ for 150 hours of flying is over 350£ an hour (considering the remaining 60£/hour for ground school, simulators...). And most of these hours are flown in the US, where the same hours cost 90£.(incl instructor).
They are earning 260£ per hour on you guys, do you realise?
Sorry to post it in this forum but I think that things should be clear as they are.
Also dear students, be careful, many members of Pprune are actually FTO marketing departments who operate under innocent names such as "Artie". They will try to influence your decisions, so do use your common sense to evaluate facts.
Thank you
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I am not accusing you of advertising. Lets put this as simply as possible;
1 You accuse TRTOs and FTOs of posting on pprune to influence people in to taking their services.
2 You ridiculed the starter of this thread for doing an SSTR, saying that he would do a lot better building multi engine time to improve his job chances.
3 I can’t get into your website, but google describes you as “Aircraft rental / time building / hour building JAR / FAR Cessna 150 Cessna 152 Cessna 172 twin-engine”.
Can you see how some might see this as double standards?
Apologies to all for hijacking the thread, I shall now be silent as this has descended into total farce; first I’m a ppl flying a 737 with my mate Travolta, now I’m Oxford management, whatever next? the easter bunny?
If you really want to know who I am;
http://www.spinaltapfan.com/atozed/TAP00191.HTM
1 You accuse TRTOs and FTOs of posting on pprune to influence people in to taking their services.
2 You ridiculed the starter of this thread for doing an SSTR, saying that he would do a lot better building multi engine time to improve his job chances.
3 I can’t get into your website, but google describes you as “Aircraft rental / time building / hour building JAR / FAR Cessna 150 Cessna 152 Cessna 172 twin-engine”.
Can you see how some might see this as double standards?
Apologies to all for hijacking the thread, I shall now be silent as this has descended into total farce; first I’m a ppl flying a 737 with my mate Travolta, now I’m Oxford management, whatever next? the easter bunny?
If you really want to know who I am;
http://www.spinaltapfan.com/atozed/TAP00191.HTM
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You accuse TRTOs and FTOs of posting on pprune to influence people in to taking their services.
I have nothing against FTO's when they actually identify themselves to the students as being what they are. Instead many pretend they are ex-students and try to recommend students a certain course.
I never ridiculised the thread starter, I'm just trying to give him/her and many others another perspective, and not only the perspective given by his FTO who is advertising for the TRTO that owns it...
If our company encourages hour building, I don't think we would open a TRTO
But that doesn't mean that we are advertising here. We'd rather have students build hours with the competition than pay a TR.This is who I am : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis
Well I don't know whether we are still off-topic, the guys were looking for accommodation starting from yesterday...This forum is of no use anymore
