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Old 15th Oct 2007, 11:02
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Cpl Jobs: Air Taxi/charter/banner Towing/pleasure Flights/parachuting/cargo

Does anybody know any companies that specialise in these (AIR TAXI/CHARTER/BANNER TOWING/PLEASURE FLIGHTS/PARACHUTING/CARGO) areas that may be able to offer a job to a qualified CPL/IR/MCC to build experience.

I'm basically looking for work as a newly qualified CPL/IR/MCC without having to gain an instructers rating. I would be willing to work for peanuts!!

Any knowledge of such companies in Britain would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 15:37
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As a low hour CPL/IR holder then air taxi work is not an option, as most operators insurance and the JAR Ops single pilot requirements are 700 hours total time with at least 40 p1 multi IFR.

There is a company called Airads (not sure on the spelling) in the South East that does banner towing.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 17:26
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"I would be willing to work for peanuts!!"

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I would be willing to work for peanuts!!
Its great that you are keen and looking for work, but please, for the sake of an industry that is going down the toilet in respect of terms and conditions REFRAIN from selling yourself in such a way!!! This is exactly why the likes of low pay, SSTR's and even paying for your own uniform have happened.

Right, rant over. FWIW, I don't mean to hijack the thread but grrrr....
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 17:46
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I would be willing to work for peanuts!!
And I would be willing to see a lion bite your arse!

I really wish you the worst possible luck finding a job. That's what you deserve for being so professional. Anyway... the stink from your post smells like you're too naive and uncompetent to find anything.

Worst regards! / Pablo
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 18:36
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Well try the British Gliding or parachute associations, or just get creative on google. You should be able to get a list of all the airfields or dropzones and get calling. Best you visit if at all possible. In the interim perphaps get a ground job at your local airport and get some more cash under your belt to go flying every now and again, Thats what alot of people do, I did and made contacts, got cash went flying and made more contacts and got a number meatbombing and glider towing etc etc and now I in my 3rd airline, I promise I stay put now though
Good luck

PS Lifted this link off another tread, might be useful also.

http://www.cae.com/cts/indexNewRecruits.shtml
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 18:45
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...REFRAIN from selling yourself in such a way!!!
Oh dear, someone needs to avail themselves of the rules of the free market economy.

Lets try in very simple terms:

Man has goods/services which he wants to sell. Man looks at market and realises (after trying to sell at a higher price) price acheivable is low. Man needs to sell goods/services to pay bills/debts or to just plain subsist. Market forces render goods/services at a low price, but if man sells goods/services at low price now, man makes better reputation due to experience and commands greater price next time.

Substitute woman for man if female, the free market economy is not sexist. Nor does it smile upon low hour pilots.

Simple really.

Now can we get back to the original question?

Thank you.
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Old 15th Oct 2007, 20:28
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Yes get calling, you're bound to get a few bites.

Given the training involved (and in the case of paradropping a TR maybe required) and the new season starts in spring, now is perhaps the time to start hunting.

What is more valuable though for the first year? 500hr SET time never venturing from the ATZ, tugging in a Cub or Chippy (sounds fun) or 800-1000hrs SEP instructing?
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Old 16th Oct 2007, 09:37
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Flying for nothing!! (That's so last year!)

Cudster
Newly qualified pilots have it hard as it is without another one coming along willing to sell his soul and whatever else for nothing.
I was in your position about 18 months ago. Just finished the whole CPL/Multi IR thing and was trying to get a job. No one wanted to know. I tried the local glider school on the airfield where I trained but a lack of flying time and no tail dragger experience went against me big time. Same story where ever I went. So I bit the bullet, invested another 6 grand and became an instructor. I have to tell you I have leant more about flying and developed my flying skills so much more since becoming an instructor than at anytime during my training. For some reason many wannabees think that just because they have a CPL /IR means they are entitled to fly whatever they feel. Sorry mate, it doesn't work like that. There is no substitute for experience in this game. Okay so I hear you mention those guys getting the jet jobs with 250 hours, yeah some do, but they are the MINORITY. Despite what the training schools tell you most guys who finish up whether integrated or modular do not walk straight into a job, some never get the job they trained for. I have met guys from all the big schools who are unemployed. If you have no joy getting into the banner towing (very dangerous work), parachute dropping or glider towing then go and do an instructor's rating, get those hours up and then you will see more doors open to you. Here's food for thought. The majority of guys that I know who have trained to become instructors have progressed to the airlines. The oldest was 46 and an airline still took him. And just for your info, I am still an instructor coming up to 650 hours TT, with a few good possibilities in the pipeline.
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FI is the way.

Particularly since you are happy to work for 'peanuts'

Good Luck!!
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 18:21
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thanks for advise guys (especially pablo), sounds like FI is the way to go at the moment.
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You're welcome pal!

rgrds / Pablo
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