Hours building A320/19
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Hours building A320/19
Anyone interested in building hours on 320/319 should call Airmalta who are doing KRAZY deals for zero hour pilots.
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Would that be KRAZY because the money on offer is KRAZY good? No? Didn't think.
Or perhaps it's KRAZY becuase it appears you want people to pay you to fly the aeroplane? Is Air Malta a flying club? Because you hardly expect a business employing staff to expect them to pay you for that employment.
Or perhaps its KRAZY because its for zero hour pilots. Well that is KRAZY, at the very least you should require a CPL before flying an A320. Or perhaps MEEK is offering to sell you a computer game.
So how's the interview go?
Candidate 1: I have an excellent track record, all the required licences, good experience and am keen to contribute towards excellent safety standards, as, after all, we both share the highest concern for the safety of the fare paying pax. I will expect an industry standard salary.
Air Malta: Get out.
Candidate 2: I just scraped all my flight tests, after several repeats of course. I have no airmanship skills, no experience and have failed every other airlines assessments. I do have a big chequebook.
Air Malta: You're hired. Pay up and bend over.
Or perhaps it's KRAZY becuase it appears you want people to pay you to fly the aeroplane? Is Air Malta a flying club? Because you hardly expect a business employing staff to expect them to pay you for that employment.
Or perhaps its KRAZY because its for zero hour pilots. Well that is KRAZY, at the very least you should require a CPL before flying an A320. Or perhaps MEEK is offering to sell you a computer game.
Interviewing Now.
Candidate 1: I have an excellent track record, all the required licences, good experience and am keen to contribute towards excellent safety standards, as, after all, we both share the highest concern for the safety of the fare paying pax. I will expect an industry standard salary.
Air Malta: Get out.
Candidate 2: I just scraped all my flight tests, after several repeats of course. I have no airmanship skills, no experience and have failed every other airlines assessments. I do have a big chequebook.
Air Malta: You're hired. Pay up and bend over.
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I am not selling, anything just letting y'all know.
6 month contract with some pay and a 5000STG bond was the last offer. a number of type rated zero hour FOs took them up on the offer. most of them now with Monarch.
Might be some changes but i think it is the best offer at the moment. Especially as you pay nothing.
6 month contract with some pay and a 5000STG bond was the last offer. a number of type rated zero hour FOs took them up on the offer. most of them now with Monarch.
Might be some changes but i think it is the best offer at the moment. Especially as you pay nothing.
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No you don't pay anything but the poor buggaz behind you, who have to cough up for their type ratings as a result of rich selfish tosserz do. Why can't these people simply bide their time and work their way up the career ladder instead of driving down terms and conditions? After 5 years of flying an airliner they'll only be interested in pay and work conditions but will have stuffed themselves up the arse by being dickheads at the start of their career.
Makes me sick and genuinely worries me that these short-sighted morons are actually responsible for flying millions of people around the skies. Glad I'm down at 3000ft, instructing in my cessna, and not up at 30'000ft working with idiots - it bloody well scares me!
And for every prat who pays out for their type rating but doesn't secure a job afterwards I laugh mightily. Ho ho ho heh heh heh!
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Makes me sick and genuinely worries me that these short-sighted morons are actually responsible for flying millions of people around the skies. Glad I'm down at 3000ft, instructing in my cessna, and not up at 30'000ft working with idiots - it bloody well scares me!
And for every prat who pays out for their type rating but doesn't secure a job afterwards I laugh mightily. Ho ho ho heh heh heh!
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call Airmalta who are doing KRAZY deals for zero hour pilots. Joe Agius Gen Manager Flt OPs or Joe Farrugia Chief Pilot.
Sounds like some used car lot...
My name is Crazy Joe Agius, and I have got deals for you! I won't be undersold!!!!
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if we dont have to pay for the first 100 or 500hours on the bus, that shows the situation is improving.
that's the last offer I received:
ATLASJET: 12'500 $ plus tax for 150h.
INdigo:10'000$ plus tax for 100 h.
of course, I am not interested to eat curry and "pay to play" when I know they will kick me out for someone else who have a thick wallet.
that's the last offer I received:
ATLASJET: 12'500 $ plus tax for 150h.
INdigo:10'000$ plus tax for 100 h.
of course, I am not interested to eat curry and "pay to play" when I know they will kick me out for someone else who have a thick wallet.
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To all interested, I do not have the details, a friend of mine got in and I heard about it through him.
It cannot be that hard to get the details, I posted names and Company, so a little initiative please.
FYI I have over 10,000 hrs and remember when I was building hrs, but as a Captain I expect a modicum of self reliance. So no more private messages PLS.
It cannot be that hard to get the details, I posted names and Company, so a little initiative please.
FYI I have over 10,000 hrs and remember when I was building hrs, but as a Captain I expect a modicum of self reliance. So no more private messages PLS.
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Hour building A320 Air Malta
Hi gentlemen,
to the attention of Meek, out of respect i didnt send a private msge. Is it possible for someone who has both (Jaa, Faa) licenses to do an Faa type rating(A320 in our case), build(i think 500 hours on type) and then put it on the Jar license?The reason im saying this is due to the cost. I hope you understand and i will appreciate yr reply.
Sincerely
AR
ps.who should we contact in Air Malta? simply email or we can find someone through the phone number they have on their site? Thank you in advance
to the attention of Meek, out of respect i didnt send a private msge. Is it possible for someone who has both (Jaa, Faa) licenses to do an Faa type rating(A320 in our case), build(i think 500 hours on type) and then put it on the Jar license?The reason im saying this is due to the cost. I hope you understand and i will appreciate yr reply.
Sincerely
AR
ps.who should we contact in Air Malta? simply email or we can find someone through the phone number they have on their site? Thank you in advance
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To add perhaps a touch of clarity to this thread and perhaps to save people getting their hopes up too much, this is the info I had from someone who went for interview last week:
Everyone who went to interview was from PARC.
They were all trained by Air Malta training captains through their A320 SSTR.
The contract isn’t pay to fly unless you leave before the year long contract ends, so if you stay for one year (ie the contract period) you will pay nothing – you will be paid at the standard Maltese contract rates. If you leave within one year you would owe the bond of around £5000. It is just a normal airline job, with a poor wage in terms of the European airline industry .
VFE:
To answer as one of those ‘rich selfish tossers/ dickheads’ as you like to refer to people who have paid for SSTRs, I would like to explain my personal reasoning for doing this route… IMHO there is no career ladder in the UK in the traditional American way. There is a career ladder within GA, there is a career ladder within the airlines; and there is a chasm between the two. The question is how to cross that…
Option 1) I would guess in your opinion the morally correct route: Get selected for a turbo-prop or jet job, perhaps FlyBe or through CTC. Sadly in the majority of cases you will still pay for your type rating through reduced wages, so still you are paying for your type rating!
Option 2) Take the bull by the horns, roll the dice, do your research properly and pay for a SSTR. I chose this route because I was stuck in a dead end job instructing in the UK. I couldn’t break into any airlines (which is where I wanted to be). Now, a year on after my SSTR, I can now have choice in which airline I work for, not just first offer. OK, ball park A320 FO figure in the UK, perhaps around £45-55K year 1. Type rating was 21K. When instructing I earned about 10k per annum… very quickly it makes financial sense to do the SSTR.
Here is the real kicker: I know experienced turbo prop FO’s / twin piston air charter pilots who couldn’t find jet jobs who paid for, you guessed it, jet SSTRs.
Option3) Who knows, the perfect route, good luck finding it.
“And for every prat who pays out for their type rating but doesn't secure a job afterwards I laugh mightily. Ho ho ho heh heh heh!”
Everyone who went to interview was from PARC.
They were all trained by Air Malta training captains through their A320 SSTR.
The contract isn’t pay to fly unless you leave before the year long contract ends, so if you stay for one year (ie the contract period) you will pay nothing – you will be paid at the standard Maltese contract rates. If you leave within one year you would owe the bond of around £5000. It is just a normal airline job, with a poor wage in terms of the European airline industry .
VFE:
To answer as one of those ‘rich selfish tossers/ dickheads’ as you like to refer to people who have paid for SSTRs, I would like to explain my personal reasoning for doing this route… IMHO there is no career ladder in the UK in the traditional American way. There is a career ladder within GA, there is a career ladder within the airlines; and there is a chasm between the two. The question is how to cross that…
Option 1) I would guess in your opinion the morally correct route: Get selected for a turbo-prop or jet job, perhaps FlyBe or through CTC. Sadly in the majority of cases you will still pay for your type rating through reduced wages, so still you are paying for your type rating!
Option 2) Take the bull by the horns, roll the dice, do your research properly and pay for a SSTR. I chose this route because I was stuck in a dead end job instructing in the UK. I couldn’t break into any airlines (which is where I wanted to be). Now, a year on after my SSTR, I can now have choice in which airline I work for, not just first offer. OK, ball park A320 FO figure in the UK, perhaps around £45-55K year 1. Type rating was 21K. When instructing I earned about 10k per annum… very quickly it makes financial sense to do the SSTR.
Here is the real kicker: I know experienced turbo prop FO’s / twin piston air charter pilots who couldn’t find jet jobs who paid for, you guessed it, jet SSTRs.
Option3) Who knows, the perfect route, good luck finding it.
“And for every prat who pays out for their type rating but doesn't secure a job afterwards I laugh mightily. Ho ho ho heh heh heh!”
