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Aer Lingus Recruitment
Been called for interview this week,for belfast base.Anyone know what is involved in the interview.Yes,lets hear the criticisms also.
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Yes,lets hear the criticisms also.
http://www.ifalpa.org/jobs/recruitme...0(Ireland).pdf
Essentially, pilots are asked not to help the company breach the T&C's of the existing pilots.
Aviation is a small community, and Aer Lingus smaller still, think very carefully before breaching a recruitment ban.
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pilots are asked not to help the company breach the T&C's of the existing pilots
just as an example to show you how deep the black rabit's hole goes.
Do you really think that unemployed pilots really care of T&C of existing pilots when an airline call us and ask us to fly for them , and even be paid!!???Do you think an unemployed pilot will refuse a job offer because he eared there is somewhere on the net a "kind of ban"?
If they offer me a job at Airlingus, I'll take it! and I don't care of what other pilots say.
sorry guys, if you want I stay at home, pay me by paypal !
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Well Dartagan you should care, As you may get your foot in the door but you have a lifetime left in the career to reap what has been sow or is been sow.The simple reason you wont have to pay out for even a type rating with lingus is due in course to the union, the reason the pension is so good is due the union...........I could go on but you obviously know better. Its not a kinda ban neither.ITS a BAN period.
Go for the job, defy the ban and get your name blacklisted all over Europe, Do you think working pilots really give a sh1t who's defys the ban only that their not in their airline cos they aint welcome......
Grow up and change your tune or your gonna find it a lonely industry.
Go for the job, defy the ban and get your name blacklisted all over Europe, Do you think working pilots really give a sh1t who's defys the ban only that their not in their airline cos they aint welcome......
Grow up and change your tune or your gonna find it a lonely industry.
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Oh dear, if this guy is a newbie personified, no wonder the industry is screwed.
Dartagnan, look at the big picture. The aeroplanes are going to fly anyway. The issue is whether they fly with guys on the current T&C's or on reduced T&C's. If flouting the ban doesn't undermine the union, they will fly on the current T&C's. At that point you can apply to EI and join on your merits. if you don't make the grade, tough, someone is better than you are.
Dartagnan, look at the big picture. The aeroplanes are going to fly anyway. The issue is whether they fly with guys on the current T&C's or on reduced T&C's. If flouting the ban doesn't undermine the union, they will fly on the current T&C's. At that point you can apply to EI and join on your merits. if you don't make the grade, tough, someone is better than you are.
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I still can't honestly understand why Lingus are bothering to hire again, I mean they already have 20 people in the hold pool, why spend more money on ANOTHER selection process when they have people waiting 
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well I have a friend who is in the pool and asked them about it. There answer was that we were recruited for Dublin......
not much of an answer I know but there you go. I don't see whats stopping them asking us if we want to goto Belfast....
My friend also asked if we could apply for Belfast, and we could, however they didn't know whether that would affect our position in the hold pool.....
not much of an answer I know but there you go. I don't see whats stopping them asking us if we want to goto Belfast....
My friend also asked if we could apply for Belfast, and we could, however they didn't know whether that would affect our position in the hold pool.....
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Hi Paddy Paddy/ Capt. Jim
If you go to www.aerlingus.com & then select "About us " from the banner across the top, you will see a link to "careers and vacancies" at the side.
All the info you require is available here.
You will also see the address to email your cv: [email protected]
Capt. Jim you will also see here possible answers as to why you haven't heard anything yet.
Good luck.
Willby
If you go to www.aerlingus.com & then select "About us " from the banner across the top, you will see a link to "careers and vacancies" at the side.
All the info you require is available here.
You will also see the address to email your cv: [email protected]
Capt. Jim you will also see here possible answers as to why you haven't heard anything yet.
Good luck.
Willby
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If any of you get called for an interview, please could you remind the lovely people at Aer Lingus that there are 20 of us waiting in the hold pool, who have been through all the interviews and we are . . . waiting . . . waiting . . .waiting . . . waiting. . . waiting . . . etc,etc.
Hey actually, if you get called for an interview with Aer Lingus and you pass everything like us hold poolers, maybe you too will have to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait . . and wait . . and wait . . etc,etc.
GOOD LUCK
Hey actually, if you get called for an interview with Aer Lingus and you pass everything like us hold poolers, maybe you too will have to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait . . and wait . . and wait . . etc,etc.
GOOD LUCK
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God, it must be awful being in the hold pool for an airline such as EI. Imagine having to wait for that! A career for life, great salary, fantastic route structure, modern fleet of aircraft....the list continues. As frustrating as it may seem to you, especially with the uncertainty surrounding BFS recruitment, think yourself lucky mate. A lot of people on here would bite your arm off to be in the situation that you find yourself.
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Hate to say it... Its the fault of union members who do not have the forsight to see that blaming the unrepresented who have no voice, i.e. the unemployed for years of apathy of its members falls on deaf ears. I suggest those who are employed and earning a wage at all for flying, take stock of how lucky they are to be employed and defend the rights of new starters and not just their own TandCs. I suggest if you ever get made redundant tell your families, that you will not apply for another job out of principle for those existing employees of the company in question and see what response you get. BA is a fine example new starters on different TandCs both in the cabin and in the flight deck and union members wonder why solidarity isnt as it used to be.
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Newbies are a different kettle of fish to those made redundant. Those made redundant did not do so out of choice Newbies made the conscious decision to saddle themselves with huge debt. Why not save up first?
You can blame the current pilots all you like, but to say that you are forced to accept a $hit job is nonsense.
Let me refresh your memories. About a year ago, Aer Lingus tried to bring in self-funded TR's for those recruited to DUB last year. IALPA said NO.
AL also tried to bring in new contracts for newbies. IALPA said NO.
Many low timed newbies are now benefiting from this.
In return, wannabes like you now seek to denigrate the existing AL pilots and shaft us by ignoring the recruitment ban - which is designed to help newbies let me remind you.
I suggest you do some research before shooting your mouth off. That's advice that will also stand to you in a cockpit.
Newbies are a different kettle of fish to those made redundant. Those made redundant did not do so out of choice Newbies made the conscious decision to saddle themselves with huge debt. Why not save up first?
You can blame the current pilots all you like, but to say that you are forced to accept a $hit job is nonsense.
Let me refresh your memories. About a year ago, Aer Lingus tried to bring in self-funded TR's for those recruited to DUB last year. IALPA said NO.
AL also tried to bring in new contracts for newbies. IALPA said NO.
Many low timed newbies are now benefiting from this.
In return, wannabes like you now seek to denigrate the existing AL pilots and shaft us by ignoring the recruitment ban - which is designed to help newbies let me remind you.
I suggest you do some research before shooting your mouth off. That's advice that will also stand to you in a cockpit.
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I am not a wannabe, have been a union member in the airline industry for 11 years and have seen conditions erode. The unemployed and those that aspire will always erode the industry but that is not their fault they merely aspire and companies take advantage of this. Wannabees have no power they will take any opportunity given to them. Those with the voice and the power to slow if not stop tandc deterioration are the members of the union and working body of the company.
It is not a question of paying for ratings or not it is merely a question of the absurdity of the employed asking the unemployed to refuse opportunities they have work so hard for, irrelevent of the monetary costs all tho they are significant. If you feel so strongly about it what are you personally doing about it are you on company council, offering to write a business plan to successfully reverse the trend and introduce a cadet scheme...maybe but I doubt it.
This thread has drifted from subject, yes their is a recruitment ban but you cant blaim the unemployed for applying. Instead of taking it up with the desperate maybe you should vent your opinions with your company representatives as to why they are recruiting during a ban, and do something about it internally, industrial action does not mean strike and work to rule does not mean industrial action.
Oh and I have respected the recruitment ban and not applied.
It is not a question of paying for ratings or not it is merely a question of the absurdity of the employed asking the unemployed to refuse opportunities they have work so hard for, irrelevent of the monetary costs all tho they are significant. If you feel so strongly about it what are you personally doing about it are you on company council, offering to write a business plan to successfully reverse the trend and introduce a cadet scheme...maybe but I doubt it.
This thread has drifted from subject, yes their is a recruitment ban but you cant blaim the unemployed for applying. Instead of taking it up with the desperate maybe you should vent your opinions with your company representatives as to why they are recruiting during a ban, and do something about it internally, industrial action does not mean strike and work to rule does not mean industrial action.
Oh and I have respected the recruitment ban and not applied.
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If you feel so strongly about it what are you personally doing about it are you on company council, offering to write a business plan to successfully reverse the trend and introduce a cadet scheme...maybe but I doubt it.
The problem lies equally with newbies and existing pilots. In EI, they existing pilots are playing their part. It's a pity the apathetic majority in Ryanair, the worst offended by far, are unable to get it together. Other airlines and unions also need to play their part too.
The beef here is that IALPA are about the only union actually trying to stop the screwing of newbies so a little support from said newbies would be good. After it is them that will ultimately benefit.
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Can't help but think that you have taken what I said to FO JimmyJames out of context.
I was highlighting the frustration that he finds himself in while he waits in a hold pool of 20 or so pilots for the DUBLIN BASE. I believe these people were recruited BEFORE EI's decision to start up at Belfast had long been announced. I would therefore think that these people were offered the existing T&Cs which existing EI pilots rightly fight for.
Now if JimmyJames et al wants to jump in to the Belfast pot with it's eroded T&Cs, then that's up to him and his counterparts.
What I was getting at was that in general people of our disposition (low houred CPL/IRs) would remove a limb in order to receive half a chance of the position that he finds himself in. That would be the hold pool for DUB with the T&Cs which did not come under debate. I never refered to BFS recruitment and the unfortunate debacle it has caused.
Can't help but think that you have taken what I said to FO JimmyJames out of context.
I was highlighting the frustration that he finds himself in while he waits in a hold pool of 20 or so pilots for the DUBLIN BASE. I believe these people were recruited BEFORE EI's decision to start up at Belfast had long been announced. I would therefore think that these people were offered the existing T&Cs which existing EI pilots rightly fight for.
Now if JimmyJames et al wants to jump in to the Belfast pot with it's eroded T&Cs, then that's up to him and his counterparts.
What I was getting at was that in general people of our disposition (low houred CPL/IRs) would remove a limb in order to receive half a chance of the position that he finds himself in. That would be the hold pool for DUB with the T&Cs which did not come under debate. I never refered to BFS recruitment and the unfortunate debacle it has caused.
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Callsign Kilo,
You are absolutely right! I am really looking forward to working for AL and yes my counterparts and I in the pool are very lucky to have at least this hope in a tough industry. I do not want to get into the ins and outs of Belfast, I just want thoughs applying for Belfast to understand the frustration felt by us in the pool. To me AL is AL wether it be in Dublin or Timbucktoo. A bit if a kick in the teath for AL not to even consider us for Belfast. Beter T's and C's or not the princilpal is we should at least be considered.
I am all for better T's and C's for pilots, but I really want to get my career started too . . . It's a bit of a tough one.
You are absolutely right! I am really looking forward to working for AL and yes my counterparts and I in the pool are very lucky to have at least this hope in a tough industry. I do not want to get into the ins and outs of Belfast, I just want thoughs applying for Belfast to understand the frustration felt by us in the pool. To me AL is AL wether it be in Dublin or Timbucktoo. A bit if a kick in the teath for AL not to even consider us for Belfast. Beter T's and C's or not the princilpal is we should at least be considered.
I am all for better T's and C's for pilots, but I really want to get my career started too . . . It's a bit of a tough one.