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Old 15th Feb 2006, 14:48
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Aer Arann SSTR Price Increase

Aer Arann has increased the price to EUR 25 000 for the ATR Rating.

Apparently this is in response to the operator losing several pilots to jet operators recently.

Strange response as now guys/gals will be in more of a rush to get the big bucks elsewhere and will be on their way asap.

Surely a bonding period would make more sense.

Suddenly, Ryanair doesn't look so bad
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 19:50
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training will cost more in the futur...
today 25000, tomorrow 26000.

they are not interested to bond you, they dont have the money.
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Old 18th Feb 2006, 16:38
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REA don't have the money? I thought the financial reports from last year were showing the big boss pocketing a big fat salary after all the profit they made...
I dunno, maybe they think if Ryanair can charge pilots that much, they can do the same... shame though, the ATR is a neat type to start with, but at this price, might as well be a jet!

I believe REA is introducing (has?) a second officer's pay scheme. If that is the case, hope new pilots have a second job during their time off to pay their bills!

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mmmhh!, carrefour, a french grocery market 'director got 50 millions of euro for his retirement, the cashiers didnt get 1% salary increase, they said: we do not have money!
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Old 19th Feb 2006, 01:19
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Originally Posted by FLEXPWR
. If that is the case, hope new pilots have a second job during their time off to pay their bills!
FLX

I think it is already the case as people get moved around the different bases and they don t get much flying , so they cant afford to pay for second rent and have to work elsewhere , that sounds like ryanair
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Old 19th Feb 2006, 02:33
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Hi all
Right now, having lost more than ten pilots lately,even to other ATR operators, Arran are hurting for pilots! The existing crews are very busy,especially the remaining Trg. Captains.Easyjet are even rumoured to be encouraging new arrivals from Arran to bring their mates over.Arran are cutting off their nose to spite their faces by having a short-sighted recruitment policy.The current starting pay for new F/Os is E25K and flight pay, not much cop when the SSTR will cost you the same amount! New pilots had better work on their Manx.
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Old 19th Feb 2006, 12:23
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they are not interested to bond you, they dont have the money.
So is this just a once off transfer of the whole amount and will they help source the finance for it? And considering they are doubling their fleet over the coming months are they likely to consider someone with a fresh fATPL from one of the larger integrated schools?
Thanks!
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Old 20th Feb 2006, 08:37
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So if they are losing pilots to Easy, and they are expanding their fleet why is that I can't even get an interview, 1000 hours + ATR type rating? Huh!

Surely they cant tell if you are ugly from an application form.

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Old 20th Feb 2006, 08:59
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If you mugs insist on buying a job what do you expect? I have no sympathy for you! ers!!!!
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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 13:10
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Aer Arann Islands

Anyone know anything about the hiring requirements for Aer Arann Islands. You know the branch of Aer Arann that flies to the Aran Islands in well..... Islanders.
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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 18:49
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At least an excess of 1500 hours with multi engine rating an IR. Not sure if they are recruiting at the moment but I'm sure there is no harm in trying.
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Old 4th Apr 2006, 13:49
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I applied - sent CV, about 2months ago and have not heard anything. Probably helps if your Irish.
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Old 4th Apr 2006, 22:35
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Thanks for that. I imagine it helps even more if you can speak Irish I suppose it's worth a try.
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Old 5th Apr 2006, 08:58
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Just so that readers know, Aer Arann recruits through one source and the Islander operation is a little 'closed shop' with most people getting jobs being friends of those allready employed. Still, worth giving it a go you never know what may come of a phone call or two. Ever considered a short brake in Ireland - why not go over for a trip to the Arann Islands and talk to the pilots!
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Old 5th Apr 2006, 11:51
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"Just so that readers know, Aer Arann recruits through one source "

So who do you suggest is that single source?
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Old 5th Apr 2006, 12:50
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Well as far as I know, OAT have sent a few. I doubt that would be their only source tho.

-8AS, What source do they normally recruit from?

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Old 6th Apr 2006, 10:48
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I think people are getting confused. Aer Arann and Aer Arann Islands are two seperate companies. Aer Arann Islands are a small operation flying Islanders to the Arann Islands off the west coast of Ireland. I somehow doubt that they consider OAT low hour guys as this company is a single crew VFR operation. You need a minimum of 800 hours I think as per JAR regulation.

Aer Arann on the other hand operate a fleet of ATR's on domestic and european flights and are completely seperate. They consider cadets from all schools including OAT and the like.

Just my two cents worth. May help to avoid the confusion.
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Old 6th Apr 2006, 12:34
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Ah ok that would explain it then. Sorry for the confusion!
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Old 9th Apr 2006, 21:38
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Yes I think it's pretty much as 8AS says. Pilots are probably recruited on personal recommendations from other pilots. I guess if you have experience of something similar somewhere you have a better chance.

Actually you don't really have to be Irish. I have seen English and French pilots work for them. In fact their first pilot was British. He wrote a fascinating book about the subject. Ironically I think it may be harder to get into the Islander operation than the ATR's.
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Aer Arann F/O recruitments

Hi there!

Would anyone have some updated info on Aer Arann FO recruitment policy? I was advised not to use the application form on their website but to contact them directly... I haven't been very successful so far!

It seems that they've just recruited quite a lot of pilots recently, some of them were not type rated on the ATR. Do they prefer to train pilots themselves or do they still hire already type-rated F/Os (with no hours on type)?

Thanks in advance!

WW
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