Flybe/BA Connect buyout
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imagine that new recruiting will be placed on hold for now
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Then you are not being recruited. You are simply being assessed for your suitability to be monitored by Flybe while you undergo training at your own expense. Once that training is complete, you may be offered selection for employment. That date is some way away, and is unlikely to be affected by today's events.
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That date is some way away, and is unlikely to be affected by today's events.
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Given the enormous amount of natural wastage (ie, folk legging it out the front door for other airlines) in both flybe and BACON, I don't think it will be long before recruitment of fresh meat is required.
However, my bet would be that it will be delayed (causing yet another recruitment crisis) by the enormous recruitment and training headache that has now been dumped on an already struggling flight ops department in Exeter. They have barely got back on their feet since being swamped with the launch of the online recruitment process, now it seems things are heading rapidly back to square one.
So vacancies coming, but no spare resources to do anything about it but panic.
Ho hum.
However, my bet would be that it will be delayed (causing yet another recruitment crisis) by the enormous recruitment and training headache that has now been dumped on an already struggling flight ops department in Exeter. They have barely got back on their feet since being swamped with the launch of the online recruitment process, now it seems things are heading rapidly back to square one.
So vacancies coming, but no spare resources to do anything about it but panic.
Ho hum.
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MrMutra - Doom & Gloom again!
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'I really feel for all of you in the hold pool, you have been been given the shaft'
Those of you in the hold pool should not be 'shafted'. It would be the BA Connect intention that the pool will be sold to our new owners, who have the utmost respect for our recruitment criteria, with the rest of the company.
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'I really feel for all of you in the hold pool, you have been been given the shaft'
Those of you in the hold pool should not be 'shafted'. It would be the BA Connect intention that the pool will be sold to our new owners, who have the utmost respect for our recruitment criteria, with the rest of the company.
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The BA Connect Dash pilots currently in groundschool will continue as planned. They will progress through sim/line training and will fly the Dash Q300 until our new owners decide what to do with the aircraft and when to do it!
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Thumper
The BA Connect Dash pilots currently in groundschool will continue as planned. They will progress through sim/line training and will fly the Dash Q300 until our new owners decide what to do with the aircraft and when to do it!
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'I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they sit down to decide how the seniority list is going to be dealt with.'
As a fly you might just be small enough for the splatters of blood to miss you.
I can't see the flyBe boys who, after all, are the 'taking-over' group being trampled on by the Connect boys. This is a take-over, not a 'merging' as was the case in BRAL/Brymon.
As a fly you might just be small enough for the splatters of blood to miss you.
I can't see the flyBe boys who, after all, are the 'taking-over' group being trampled on by the Connect boys. This is a take-over, not a 'merging' as was the case in BRAL/Brymon.
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Why open recruitment
Why would Flybe open their recruitment a week ago if they had no plans of recruiting any newbies? - doesn't make any sense. Deals take months to hammer out so they must have had a reason for opening it as they wouldn't waste their time otherwise, especially in such a busy time.
I have always thought they were a great airline and I would love to fly for them with or without this deal.
They are interested in us, don't worry we will get a chance!
I have always thought they were a great airline and I would love to fly for them with or without this deal.
They are interested in us, don't worry we will get a chance!
I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
I) The BACON deal is not signed, sealed or delivered yet.
II) New aircraft arrive monthly it is unknown how many BACON pilots will want to move over to Flybe.
III) Once the interview is complete and the sim is done, it costs nothing to have loads of people in a hold pool.
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I have been told that the person dealing with recruitment within Flybe did not even know what was happening until the announcement on Friday morning. They were even expecting some pilots from BA Connect for interview next week not realising that the would be no need to interview them as there was a take over/ merger, what ever its called about to take place. All very top secret and very well to be kept quite.
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EGCC - yes with a short conversion course!
Think it is a great move for the lowly TP guys at BACON. We lose the chances of a 145 and associated hike in salary, but in return we get greater job security, route development and new aeroplanes. Everything we needed with a proactive management and within a company that has shown its skills in the marketplace. Most of all we are still flying, and will still get paid.
Yes there are downsides, I really do not see what we have to lose, we are still gaining experience and if we do not like it we can look at moving on. I firmly believe it is a good thing, and I am fully behind it and excited by the prospect.
Before I get any flack, I am not management, and have no material motives to this. I hope that I am just being pragmatic and practical about the whole situation.
One sure thing is change in most industries - it is unsettling, but it can also be a good thing. The shame is my uniform is pretty much my only set of designer clothing!!
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Think it is a great move for the lowly TP guys at BACON. We lose the chances of a 145 and associated hike in salary, but in return we get greater job security, route development and new aeroplanes. Everything we needed with a proactive management and within a company that has shown its skills in the marketplace. Most of all we are still flying, and will still get paid.
Yes there are downsides, I really do not see what we have to lose, we are still gaining experience and if we do not like it we can look at moving on. I firmly believe it is a good thing, and I am fully behind it and excited by the prospect.
Before I get any flack, I am not management, and have no material motives to this. I hope that I am just being pragmatic and practical about the whole situation.
One sure thing is change in most industries - it is unsettling, but it can also be a good thing. The shame is my uniform is pretty much my only set of designer clothing!!
MT
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I understand for someone who has not been with BA Connect very long, this is good news. But for those who have been in the RHS or LHS of a 145, some concern about what they are going to be flying in the near future and how much are they going to be paid for doing so.
For those who have been with BA Connect for 12 months or so on the LHS of a Dash and were hoping to jump across to a shiny jet and a £13000 pay rise, they have to realise that at least they have not just lost their jobs and that are plenty of wannabes wishing they were in their shoes right now.
Sorry if this seems a bit blunt. Those that my thoughts are with most are all the office staff at Didsbury, the BA Connect engineers, the Push back crews and all those dispatchers who are in a far more uncertain situation. Flybe's aircraft will need pilots and cabin crew so you will have a breathing space to look for another job if it doesn't suit many.
I understand for someone who has not been with BA Connect very long, this is good news. But for those who have been in the RHS or LHS of a 145, some concern about what they are going to be flying in the near future and how much are they going to be paid for doing so.
For those who have been with BA Connect for 12 months or so on the LHS of a Dash and were hoping to jump across to a shiny jet and a £13000 pay rise, they have to realise that at least they have not just lost their jobs and that are plenty of wannabes wishing they were in their shoes right now.
Sorry if this seems a bit blunt. Those that my thoughts are with most are all the office staff at Didsbury, the BA Connect engineers, the Push back crews and all those dispatchers who are in a far more uncertain situation. Flybe's aircraft will need pilots and cabin crew so you will have a breathing space to look for another job if it doesn't suit many.
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I met Don Darby on Saturday, he said to me that recruitment is not affected by what has happened, recruitment is still required, 120 pilots per year for the next 4 years. Many BACon guys will be looking elsewhere partly because some are on BA salaries which cannot be matched by Flybe. Hang on in there!
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Oh well then, if Don Derby said that, it must be true 'cos Don wouldn't tell you anything but the complete truth now would he? 
500 pilots or so to come from BA Disconnect.....you do the math.....once the old jets go back to the lessors and the jet guys go onto the Q400, it will be interesting to see how many hang around; but not as interesting as how BALPA deal with the many unhappy members when/if they get shoved to the bottom of Flybe's seniority list.
All the best of luck to any BAConnect pilots and staff out there!
500 pilots or so to come from BA Disconnect.....you do the math.....once the old jets go back to the lessors and the jet guys go onto the Q400, it will be interesting to see how many hang around; but not as interesting as how BALPA deal with the many unhappy members when/if they get shoved to the bottom of Flybe's seniority list.
All the best of luck to any BAConnect pilots and staff out there!
I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
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A load of tosh.
A friend of mine who fly's a Dash 8 for BA Connect had been invited for an interview with Flybe for sometime this week, if they already knew what was going to happen, why would they of offered him an interview. When he phoned to see what to do about the interview, the person said "no need to bother attending the interview" and that he / she ( being the person in charge on organising interviews ) did not know about anything about the take over / merger until Friday morning like everyone else. He was invited for this weeks interview a couple of weeks ago was intending popping down this week for it.
The only reason I am saying this is in response to the earlier post saying why had they bothered opening their web application.
I do agree that its also to keep their options open.
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