Introduction of Anti-Ageism Regulations 1st October?
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magicmick
So what if you know more people than you did when you were 20, you've held down a steady job in an accountant's office for 15 years or you've travelled and seen half of the world? Great, but it doesn't necessarily make you airline pilot material!
I am sure some of the selection criteria is how one would get on with fellow flight crew especially captains.
Talking about university, accountancy and world travel may be more enjoyable than talking about the latest clearasil products, your first wet dream and whose going to win X Factor to an experienced captain heading for reitrement.
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I was 20 when I started to learn to fly (no money), 32 when I was in a position to consider a career as a commercial pilot, just turned 36 when I started my first job. I agree with bjkeates that if your an older candidate and expect the new laws to suddenly open up new jobs your very much mistaken. I have to say that of all the airlines I have interviewed with (in the UK), they are more than fair in considering all aspects of what a person has to offer. They dont care about age! For example, there was a thread on pprune regarding Ezy not wanting to recruit anyone over 40, then supprise supprise a training capt posted that he had flown recently with a low hrs guy in his 40s. Like I say I think today most airlines are more than fair and give everyone consideration regardless of age. The fundimental problem for all starting out in this business is too many wanabees, low hrs and not the experience the airlines are looking for.
On saying that, when I was 22 with a brand new Engineering degree the first company I worked for approached me and asked if I would like to work for them..........so they made me an offer and accepted. Thats life.....companys always have and always will want to recuit early 20s something, bright, high calibre boys and girls. As regards CTC, yep I have nothing but contempt for them as I was just a few months to old to apply for their wings scheme, however, like so many before I succeeded without them. Get over it!
Look back through this thread and others and find posts by ROY HUDD, theres a guy who started when he was older but knew what he was doing. Take his advice and wise words. I think many fail to get work not because of age but the fact that people put all their effort into getting the Licience and have no real plan of action of what they are going to do to get a job and how to make themselves stand out in the pilot pool.
The real question today for anybody starting out is as you get older are you going to get a real return on your investment considering the cost of training, loss of earnings and intrest payments?
Good luck to you all. Dont beat yourselves up over age. Most airlines today are fair if you have what they are looking for.
On saying that, when I was 22 with a brand new Engineering degree the first company I worked for approached me and asked if I would like to work for them..........so they made me an offer and accepted. Thats life.....companys always have and always will want to recuit early 20s something, bright, high calibre boys and girls. As regards CTC, yep I have nothing but contempt for them as I was just a few months to old to apply for their wings scheme, however, like so many before I succeeded without them. Get over it!
Look back through this thread and others and find posts by ROY HUDD, theres a guy who started when he was older but knew what he was doing. Take his advice and wise words. I think many fail to get work not because of age but the fact that people put all their effort into getting the Licience and have no real plan of action of what they are going to do to get a job and how to make themselves stand out in the pilot pool.
The real question today for anybody starting out is as you get older are you going to get a real return on your investment considering the cost of training, loss of earnings and intrest payments?
Good luck to you all. Dont beat yourselves up over age. Most airlines today are fair if you have what they are looking for.
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One thing that did just come to mind is a lot of the flight schools talk about risk minimisation when they look for candidates. Whether its good aptitude or a passion for flying in interview that convinces the flight school you will be low risk is down to the candidate but with the new anti age laws there could be something else which may prevent older pilots from being accepted. First of all as you get older you may have more health problems and this may lead to older candidates not passing the initial medical but assuming they do, at 40 you have to retake your medical every 6 months. Now is a flight school going to consider a 40+ applicant low risk, if they know full well that within 6 months they could no longer be eligable to fly? Can they use this to discriminate even when age laws state they cant refuse applications from pilots of any age? Just a thought, interested to hear what other people think of this
Rob
