what's your experience?
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what's your experience?
just a little sondage on your experience.
slightly over1500h TT, mainly single time, 400 light multi, UK JAA frozen.
still looking after 2 years!
slightly over1500h TT, mainly single time, 400 light multi, UK JAA frozen.
still looking after 2 years!
Time, place and luck, unfortunately. I got my first commercial job a couple of years ago with 50 multi and 300 hrs SEP. Now flying the A319/320/321. There's no secret, just good fortune, timing and perserverence.
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Just over 200 hours and rhs on an A320 for a major uk carrier!
Spent just over 80k on my training in little over a year, however got 3 interviews on completion, resulting in 3 job offers - obviously went with BA....ooops...shouldn't really drop the name of my employer, but aren't you all envious as hell????
Sorry guys, only joking, couldn't resist some light hearted humour
Spent just over 80k on my training in little over a year, however got 3 interviews on completion, resulting in 3 job offers - obviously went with BA....ooops...shouldn't really drop the name of my employer, but aren't you all envious as hell????
Sorry guys, only joking, couldn't resist some light hearted humour
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duir - many congrats on your perserverence paying off. Callsign Kilo(guess which fashion house you patronise...) - I can assure you that envy is not one of the reactions your tongue - in - cheek (smug) post generates. You probably have no concept of the sacrifices others put themselves through to get a sniff of the privileged position you now find yourself in.............
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many guys say the same thing, but some airlines have turn me down cus I have to much experience and they were looking for inexperienced pilots.
I wish to have no experience.
many guys say the same thing, but some airlines have turn me down cus I have to much experience and they were looking for inexperienced pilots.
I wish to have no experience.
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erm... shut up
sidthesexist, Callsign Kilo, though not as tacful as others was merely answering the thread question. He's undoubtedly done very well for himself, and will reap the rewards in due course. He has chosen the training method which suits him, and he is clearly the low hours guy (of good calibre) which the airlines want. For this, he can't exactly be held responsible. You talk of envy not being a reaction, though to the outsider - guess what it looks like! It is not his duty to shower pity on the many which are still looking for their big break.
Congrats CK, enjoy a very rewarding career. Maybe I should ask if you were modular or integrated - so to start off another thread where you can be flamed and bashed for taking the choices which suited you, and where you can be discredited for being made of the right stuff!
Congrats CK, enjoy a very rewarding career. Maybe I should ask if you were modular or integrated - so to start off another thread where you can be flamed and bashed for taking the choices which suited you, and where you can be discredited for being made of the right stuff!
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What else together with the above (experience) helped you to make the turn? SSTR? A friend who told to a friend of a friend...? Networking...? And at what "price"?
BTW: somewhere between 300 and 400 SEP, IR & MEP exp , empty wallet, MCC and FI but starving for hrs...Bad days, thinking to throw the towel, but reasons are many and this is not the place.
All the best fellas!
PZ
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Ahhh....sorry guys....a lot of you have taken my silly statement a little out of context. As duir suggests, I was poking a little fun in the direction of the low houred integrated guys who walk out of the likes of OAT, FTE etc with our 'dream job' in the rhs for a major jet operator. It's merely something that happens, and without doubt a position that I would love to be in. And to add, if I were in that position, I wouldn't be coming on here and rubbing anyones nose in it!!! Sorry for the confusion.
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Hello chaps just thought i would add my 2 pence worth.
It took me 5 years to secure my first airline job. After 2 years of job hunting i did a FI course. I secured my first job after 3 years with just over 1000 hours (mostly single piston) although due to sept 11 started amost 5 years to the day of getting my IR.
It can be a difficult time and after 3 years in a job i still remember how frustrated i was. My only advice is to keep sending out those CV's and remain as current as you can including flying as regularly as possible. (ie you can afford).
good luck
It took me 5 years to secure my first airline job. After 2 years of job hunting i did a FI course. I secured my first job after 3 years with just over 1000 hours (mostly single piston) although due to sept 11 started amost 5 years to the day of getting my IR.
It can be a difficult time and after 3 years in a job i still remember how frustrated i was. My only advice is to keep sending out those CV's and remain as current as you can including flying as regularly as possible. (ie you can afford).
good luck
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Well CK you reeled me in also.......... Sagaris, I feel like suggesting that you too 'erm... shut up'. You know absolutely nothing about my current situation or the route by which I arrived here! Once again, I can confirm that I am not in anyway envious of the (fictitious) scenario in which CK finds himself in - how can I be???? Is the small,brown coin starting on it's journey downwards yet?
Seeing and having seen the trials and tribulations some of my mates (I know, it's hard to believe, but I have a few...) are going/ have gone through to get that elusive first commercial job, I was merely trying to express some sympathy/empathy and solidarity.... Some of the words you have used in your post (in particular, the last two sentences) are, I would venture to suggest, quite revealing.
Seeing and having seen the trials and tribulations some of my mates (I know, it's hard to believe, but I have a few...) are going/ have gone through to get that elusive first commercial job, I was merely trying to express some sympathy/empathy and solidarity.... Some of the words you have used in your post (in particular, the last two sentences) are, I would venture to suggest, quite revealing.
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And what, may I ask, do they reveal? This is a genuine question, as the last 2 sentences in my initial post were firstly a congratulatory one, and secondly a question more than anything else.
For the record, I had about 1000 hrs TT, of which 750 TP before securing a 320 LCC job. The cost? Lots.
For the record, I had about 1000 hrs TT, of which 750 TP before securing a 320 LCC job. The cost? Lots.
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500 hours total, 200 hours multi turbine command accumulated over 8 years, no job, no interviews and had enough. Throwing in the towel and heading for warmer climes! Still glad I tried though
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5 years since beginning training. 6 months flying glued and hammered together light multi pistons. 700tt, 350me and first 'proper' job as B1900 f/o. No rush to move onto the jets, having too much fun. Lots of banging on doors and being a pain in the ass to a couple of employers, they had to give me a job just to shut me up!
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2 years after finishing the dreaded JAA IR, 600TT, 350 ME Turbine time(DHC-6, DHC-8). Do what ever it takes folks, sitting in that cockpit being served Tea/Coffee at altitude has to be the icing on the cake.
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