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Not quite - the £500 is a one-off payment to cover the WHOLE type rating - the first £1000 will come 2 months after the start of the type whether you've started line training by then or not (at least that's how it worked with me).
Not quite - the £500 is a one-off payment to cover the WHOLE type rating - the first £1000 will come 2 months after the start of the type whether you've started line training by then or not (at least that's how it worked with me).
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Anyone got any up-to-date numbers of people in the hold pool?? Is it moving at all?
In general have easyjet more or less stopped training until they sort out their training capacity?
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In general have easyjet more or less stopped training until they sort out their training capacity?
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I think it is approximately 30.
I don't know how quickly it's emptying but at the start of our AQC they said that they had been in consultation with the airlines and that it looked like a good time to be in the pool.
I think what he meant was that it was forecast to empty quickly!
I don't know how quickly it's emptying but at the start of our AQC they said that they had been in consultation with the airlines and that it looked like a good time to be in the pool.
I think what he meant was that it was forecast to empty quickly!
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Just a quick question, what does everyone do with their time after finishing the AQC course and then going in to the hold pool awaiting selection from an airline? Are pilots doing their Type Rating or extra study? Maybe I'm being naive and there isn't enough time to do everything as it is and it all flows from one to the next.
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Sitting around, twiddling my thumbs and spending toooooo much time on Pprune!
There is nothing to do really between AQC and getting hauled out of the hold pool. If I knew which aircraft I’m going to be type rated on I'd start studying the type, however I don't and I think I'd confuse myself if I tried learning about the 737, 757 and A320
I do take a PA28 or a C172 out for a spin every few weeks but apart from that I do nothing else aviation related.
It's very difficult to get work because you have no idea of when the call will come. I'm a contract railway engineer and I have picked up little bits of work to keep the money coming in, however most of the work available is either a long term contract or it's for work starting a month or two down the road, neither of which I can accept.
That said, work is picking up for me now which probably means I'll get a call from CTC asking me to start.
I would recommend trying to get yourself some work which you can quickly drop as you have no idea how long you'll be in the hold pool for. For me it will be 3 months by 11th Sept and no sign of being hauled out yet.
Of course, things can change very quickly and it could go back to the way it was in April of this year. I've been told that the guys who passed the April AQC finished on the Friday, had a phone call on the Saturday, went to Luton on the Monday to sign Easyjet contracts and started the type rating on the Wednesday.
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There is nothing to do really between AQC and getting hauled out of the hold pool. If I knew which aircraft I’m going to be type rated on I'd start studying the type, however I don't and I think I'd confuse myself if I tried learning about the 737, 757 and A320
I do take a PA28 or a C172 out for a spin every few weeks but apart from that I do nothing else aviation related.
It's very difficult to get work because you have no idea of when the call will come. I'm a contract railway engineer and I have picked up little bits of work to keep the money coming in, however most of the work available is either a long term contract or it's for work starting a month or two down the road, neither of which I can accept.
That said, work is picking up for me now which probably means I'll get a call from CTC asking me to start.
I would recommend trying to get yourself some work which you can quickly drop as you have no idea how long you'll be in the hold pool for. For me it will be 3 months by 11th Sept and no sign of being hauled out yet.
Of course, things can change very quickly and it could go back to the way it was in April of this year. I've been told that the guys who passed the April AQC finished on the Friday, had a phone call on the Saturday, went to Luton on the Monday to sign Easyjet contracts and started the type rating on the Wednesday.
SW
To anyone who has done the AQC.
Is there any preperation that you could advise to do prior to the AQC? Is it nearly always carried out on the 737 and if it is which series? Got mine in a couple of months looking forward to progressing with the flying career again after a long period of limbo.
All the best,
Mooneyboy
Is there any preperation that you could advise to do prior to the AQC? Is it nearly always carried out on the 737 and if it is which series? Got mine in a couple of months looking forward to progressing with the flying career again after a long period of limbo.
All the best,
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stage 3 ctc
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I've got stage 3 ctc coming up in a couple of weeks and wondered if anyone could give me any info on the interview and group exercises please? Are there any technical quesions or is it more to do with competency based questions? Also, do you know of anyone failing the AQC? What would you all say the % of people who pass AQC is? If you fail the AQC have you just lost £6500 or can you get any money back? Is it true that CTC pay you £2000 back after the 8 month contract? I will also be asking CTC these questions this week but also wanted to get other peoples opinions on this. If I pass stage 3 then I'll have a tough decision to make whether I should try and get the £6500 and risk failing the AQC or whether it isn't too much of a risk and just go for it!! Also, having been to stage 2 last week the chief pilot said that you could expect to be in the holding pool no more than 3-5 weeks at the moment.
rgds
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I've got stage 3 ctc coming up in a couple of weeks and wondered if anyone could give me any info on the interview and group exercises please? Are there any technical quesions or is it more to do with competency based questions? Also, do you know of anyone failing the AQC? What would you all say the % of people who pass AQC is? If you fail the AQC have you just lost £6500 or can you get any money back? Is it true that CTC pay you £2000 back after the 8 month contract? I will also be asking CTC these questions this week but also wanted to get other peoples opinions on this. If I pass stage 3 then I'll have a tough decision to make whether I should try and get the £6500 and risk failing the AQC or whether it isn't too much of a risk and just go for it!! Also, having been to stage 2 last week the chief pilot said that you could expect to be in the holding pool no more than 3-5 weeks at the moment.
rgds
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Guys
There is an AQC thread which covers all of your questions. This thread is really to discuss the hold pool situation.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94832
Perhaps the mods can move your posts.
But to answer your questions anyway
Mooneyboy
It seems they just split the group, some do it on the Airbus and others on the 737NG, there’s no telling which one you'll be on.
aviator1977
People do fail. It seems that 90% of people pass. I believe you get £2000 if you pass the AQC, pass the type rating and complete the line training. Why would they give you money back if you fail?
I guess the question of whether you risk the £6.5k depends how much you want to be an airline pilot. If you have plenty of job offers coming in then don't risk it.
The best advice I can give in way of preparation for the AQC is to make certain that your Instrument Flying Skills are 100% up to speed. If you have any doubts get some sim time on an FNPT2 (you don't need to practice in an expensive jet sim).
Anyway, take a look at the other thread.
SW
There is an AQC thread which covers all of your questions. This thread is really to discuss the hold pool situation.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94832
Perhaps the mods can move your posts.
But to answer your questions anyway
Mooneyboy
It seems they just split the group, some do it on the Airbus and others on the 737NG, there’s no telling which one you'll be on.
aviator1977
People do fail. It seems that 90% of people pass. I believe you get £2000 if you pass the AQC, pass the type rating and complete the line training. Why would they give you money back if you fail?
I guess the question of whether you risk the £6.5k depends how much you want to be an airline pilot. If you have plenty of job offers coming in then don't risk it.
The best advice I can give in way of preparation for the AQC is to make certain that your Instrument Flying Skills are 100% up to speed. If you have any doubts get some sim time on an FNPT2 (you don't need to practice in an expensive jet sim).
Anyway, take a look at the other thread.
SW
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3-5 weeks....! I think many people at CTC have very different ideas of how long we are likely to be in the holding pool. There are people who have been in there for nearly 4 months.
If 3-5 weeks was real then I would be flying now!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not ungrateful, I just wish we had a realistic estimate. If they said it would be at least 4 months, then I'd be very happy, but at the moment its hard to plan work commitments (bills still have to be paid).
3-5 weeks....! I think many people at CTC have very different ideas of how long we are likely to be in the holding pool. There are people who have been in there for nearly 4 months.
If 3-5 weeks was real then I would be flying now!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not ungrateful, I just wish we had a realistic estimate. If they said it would be at least 4 months, then I'd be very happy, but at the moment its hard to plan work commitments (bills still have to be paid).
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I sent my application last week so I read this with interest.
In summary of how I understand it from what I have read above, in terms of financials and time line Assuming you are successful getting in.
Selected to attend the MCC/AQC
What is the current length of time from selection to AQC course?
Pay £6500ish prior to Attending the AQC
Three consecutive weeks doing the MCC/AQC
Complete AQC and selected to enter the holding pool, Someone mentioned a lump sum of £2k from CTC at this point? is this true.
Wait in holding pool for the majic phone call.
Phone call recieved and start TR. £500 from CTC to last you over the next six weeks during the TR course.
Completion of of the TR and £1000/month payments from CTC start for six months. Then provided there are no problems (like EZY have suffered from this year) straight into line training.
Do you get flight pay during line training or does this vary between airlines?
How are people financing themselves through the transition from AQC to end of line training
Many thanks for any answers/clarifications
mint
In summary of how I understand it from what I have read above, in terms of financials and time line Assuming you are successful getting in.
Selected to attend the MCC/AQC
What is the current length of time from selection to AQC course?
Pay £6500ish prior to Attending the AQC
Three consecutive weeks doing the MCC/AQC
Complete AQC and selected to enter the holding pool, Someone mentioned a lump sum of £2k from CTC at this point? is this true.
Wait in holding pool for the majic phone call.
Phone call recieved and start TR. £500 from CTC to last you over the next six weeks during the TR course.
Completion of of the TR and £1000/month payments from CTC start for six months. Then provided there are no problems (like EZY have suffered from this year) straight into line training.
Do you get flight pay during line training or does this vary between airlines?
How are people financing themselves through the transition from AQC to end of line training
Many thanks for any answers/clarifications
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I understand 3 more are starting with EZY next Monday. That's everyone from the AQC that finished on 19th May. I guess that means that there are around 27 in the pool at the moment with another AQC finishing this Friday. So 3 to 4 months seems to be about right at the moment, however demand from the airlines is likely to increase during the winter.
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Sounds like you've received 'the call' at last Skywave? Congratulations.
Out of interest, which types and bases are being assigned at the moment?
Also did you get any idea of what order your course was called up in...date of application? Alphabetical? Handicap on the putting green?
Out of interest, which types and bases are being assigned at the moment?
Also did you get any idea of what order your course was called up in...date of application? Alphabetical? Handicap on the putting green?
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Fraid not chocks,
My course finished on 17th June
Won't be long now, 2 of my course have been called up. None of us have any idea of how the order works, however the putting green is a possibility!
I'll let you know when I know.
SW
My course finished on 17th June
Won't be long now, 2 of my course have been called up. None of us have any idea of how the order works, however the putting green is a possibility!
I'll let you know when I know.
SW
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Out of interest, which types and bases are being assigned at the moment?
What type is up to Easy. Personally, I would keep your fingers crossed for the Airbus...
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Craggenmore,
As far as EZY goes, not sure if they'll allow a choice of base (at least that wasn't the story when I went through in February!) - they usually let you know where your base will be at the start of the type rating (on induction day). If 737, the likelihood is either LTN or BFS, A319 LGW or STN initially. Get those transfer requests in early!
Cheers
FT
As far as EZY goes, not sure if they'll allow a choice of base (at least that wasn't the story when I went through in February!) - they usually let you know where your base will be at the start of the type rating (on induction day). If 737, the likelihood is either LTN or BFS, A319 LGW or STN initially. Get those transfer requests in early!
Cheers
FT
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So...have any of the recent AQC graduates heard any more news about how long we are all expected to be in the pool (assuming that an AQC has just finished)?
Surely they can't still be saying 3-5 weeks?!
Surely they can't still be saying 3-5 weeks?!
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