Delete 737 Type Rating from my CV?
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Delete 737 Type Rating from my CV?
Hi Everyone
Im about to re-file my CV with some of the UK regional's as its been a few months now since I last applied (and ive built another 150 ME hours since).
Question is...shall I delete my 737 Type Rating from my CV (and also not mention it on my application)? My self funded "no time on type" rating already seems to have ruled me out of the jet lo-co's. Now im worried that my application to the Turbo prop operators will indicate that i would leave at the first chance to fly the 73' (which is not the case).
So what do I do?
Im about to re-file my CV with some of the UK regional's as its been a few months now since I last applied (and ive built another 150 ME hours since).
Question is...shall I delete my 737 Type Rating from my CV (and also not mention it on my application)? My self funded "no time on type" rating already seems to have ruled me out of the jet lo-co's. Now im worried that my application to the Turbo prop operators will indicate that i would leave at the first chance to fly the 73' (which is not the case).
So what do I do?
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So - you are employed flying a TP and someone offered you a jet job on a 737, you honestly wouldnt take it?
T+C's and lifestyle are far more important to me than what type im flying.
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I seriously doubt that your lifestyle issues on the turbo-prop would outweight the £10k or so payrise and future prospects flying the 737. That's a personal opinion, and one which I suspect the airline will take when they see your 737 type rating on your CV.
I would not tell a turbo-prop regional that I had a jet type rating with no hours on type. The fact that you have demonstrated an ability to handle a complex type rating course is outweighed by the pre-conceived opinion that you would be off at the first opportunity that came along....
Remember, what you put on your CV should be justified taking into account the viewers' perception; not what you think might be 'good'.
All the best.
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I would not tell a turbo-prop regional that I had a jet type rating with no hours on type. The fact that you have demonstrated an ability to handle a complex type rating course is outweighed by the pre-conceived opinion that you would be off at the first opportunity that came along....
Remember, what you put on your CV should be justified taking into account the viewers' perception; not what you think might be 'good'.
All the best.
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And when you get that TP job and they check your licence and discover you have a 737 type rating that was not mentioned before? It may backfire...
I think honesty is the best policy.
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I think honesty is the best policy.
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Well someone is going to look at your licence, however if you don't feel it is important to that employer to which you are applying, then don't put it on there.
Use the point that it is irrelevant to that airline to which you are applying if asked.
Use the point that it is irrelevant to that airline to which you are applying if asked.
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IMHO,
How many Dash FO's at flybe have stayed more than a few years? I'm sure by now most of the loco TP operators know that their low hour FO's are going to run away when a job at a major carrier or jet operator comes up. A senior pilot and personnel staff at Air Southwest told me that they see themselves as a stepping stone for the new guys, who they expect to move on to bigger and better things (depending on your point of view).
At the very least, don't lie if they ask if you have a type rating. But don't feel obliged to tell them unless they ask either.
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How many Dash FO's at flybe have stayed more than a few years? I'm sure by now most of the loco TP operators know that their low hour FO's are going to run away when a job at a major carrier or jet operator comes up. A senior pilot and personnel staff at Air Southwest told me that they see themselves as a stepping stone for the new guys, who they expect to move on to bigger and better things (depending on your point of view).
At the very least, don't lie if they ask if you have a type rating. But don't feel obliged to tell them unless they ask either.
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which I suspect the airline will take when they see your 737 type rating on your CV.
Most of my mates have had at least 1 interview, with a good few getting offered a position afterwards. Im trying to work out the main reason why im not even getting a look in, the only reasons I can find is the fact that I have a type rating.
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Just because you have a page which the CAA have sent you with a 737 type rating on it, does not mean that you have to show them that page at interview. Keep the old page with just your piston twin on it and show them that. Now, if they ask you the specific question then be very careful. Lying guarantees one thing only; if you get the job and then get found out you have given them grounds to sack you.
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Some of the advise is unreal. Yes you put it down, because it is in your licence, and i assume your log book also. If you get an interview you will have to explain the TR. I'm afraid you bought it so you will have to explain it.
If you do not mention it and they find out you will be extremely unlikely to get a job, or you could easily lose a job you have been offered. Distrust from the start will be the airline view.
If you do not mention it and they find out you will be extremely unlikely to get a job, or you could easily lose a job you have been offered. Distrust from the start will be the airline view.
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I think your take on things is broadly correct. If an airline you're applying to is not asking for the type you have, don't mention it in your application or CV. However, at interview, be quite open about the rating and explain why you did it. If they like you, they are unlikely to turn you down for the rating. If they don't, you haven't lost anything. Above all, don't try to lie or deceive.
As I think you rightly suspect, getting to interview is the important bit. Once you're there, your personality and attitude will gain or lose you the job, not your rating.
Scroggs
As I think you rightly suspect, getting to interview is the important bit. Once you're there, your personality and attitude will gain or lose you the job, not your rating.
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I'd say that scroggs's take on things is absolutely spot on!
Two further points however.
If you get as far as an interview with a 737 operator, do not be surprised or perturbed if they still insist on your doing their type rating course and signing a training bond. By no means all type rating courses are acceptable to all other airlines.
Personally I wouldn't bother to renew the rating. But, bearing in mind that if you ever get to a jet simulator ride, the operator will expect a higher standard of flying from you than from others, I'd use the money for a good brush up as and when the simulator opportunity might arise.
Good luck.
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Don't forget Scroggs...
Quite a number of Airline 'interview' processes now don't just have an interview and can eliminate good candidates with dedication, attitude etc on the basis of the initial testing, without ever having face to face time with the prospective pilot!
