zero hours to ATPL to FO in 18 months - possible or not?
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zero hours to ATPL to FO in 18 months - possible or not?
Is it really possible that someone could go from no hours to ATPL and land a FO jet job straight after graduation?
OAT would have you believe this but I tend to take this with a pinch of salt from what I have picked up on this forum - they have another agenda to convince you to sign up!?
I'm 30 so dont have time on my hands. I also luckily have 70k saved up from my current career.
It seems to me that I should go for an Integrated course to get the ATPL in the minimum time (I dont have time to waste!)
I would also be tempted to pay more if it meant my chances of getting a FO role were enhanced.
OAt would have you believe they can almost guarentee you a job but they would say that!!
Can you get independent stats on these flight schools from anywhere?
Any help mush appreciated
OAT would have you believe this but I tend to take this with a pinch of salt from what I have picked up on this forum - they have another agenda to convince you to sign up!?
I'm 30 so dont have time on my hands. I also luckily have 70k saved up from my current career.
It seems to me that I should go for an Integrated course to get the ATPL in the minimum time (I dont have time to waste!)
I would also be tempted to pay more if it meant my chances of getting a FO role were enhanced.
OAt would have you believe they can almost guarentee you a job but they would say that!!
Can you get independent stats on these flight schools from anywhere?
Any help mush appreciated
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OAT would have you believe this but I tend to take this with a pinch of salt from what I have picked up on this forum - they have another agenda to convince you to sign up!?
Nothing in this industry is guaranteed, however I believe your chances of employment as a low hours pilot is greatly increased by taking the integrated route.
And for the record, you are not actually guaranteed a job after completing training with CTC, although the odds are in your favour.
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Well I'm 30 as I stated and I believe that rules me out from CTC so i have done some research!
My prob is my age. i want to do this in the minimum time possible so I guess I should go integrated?
Its a very hard decision though
I struggle to see the diff between Cabair, OAT and Jerez although I do think these are 'stand out' if you have the cash - i have saved this all myself - not some silver spoon boyo
My prob is my age. i want to do this in the minimum time possible so I guess I should go integrated?
Its a very hard decision though
I struggle to see the diff between Cabair, OAT and Jerez although I do think these are 'stand out' if you have the cash - i have saved this all myself - not some silver spoon boyo
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Hi Balham Bob,
There is nothing to suggest that you can't achieve 0 to commercial within 6 months if you work at it. Another guy on here, Lightheart did it in 4 1/2 months via the modular route. Allow 2 months study before each set of ATPL's and you'll have it in record time.
As for getting that elusive job, for the evidence on here it is improving each day, you have to market yourself as being as useful as possible to any potential employer. Therefore I'd suggest getting as many licences as your funds allows, doing an MCC before sitting your JAA CPL/IR checkride as you'll get 20 hours instrument time in a simulator before sitting your skills test
I'm not saying this is the definative way to do things, no doubt some will disagree but I don't see how OAT and Jerez can justify their rates.
Whatever you are told or advised on here, research extensively (as I did) then you can't be annoyed if you have opted for the wrong course, school or location.
Stephen
NB As a complete aside, I used to live in Tooting.
There is nothing to suggest that you can't achieve 0 to commercial within 6 months if you work at it. Another guy on here, Lightheart did it in 4 1/2 months via the modular route. Allow 2 months study before each set of ATPL's and you'll have it in record time.
As for getting that elusive job, for the evidence on here it is improving each day, you have to market yourself as being as useful as possible to any potential employer. Therefore I'd suggest getting as many licences as your funds allows, doing an MCC before sitting your JAA CPL/IR checkride as you'll get 20 hours instrument time in a simulator before sitting your skills test
I'm not saying this is the definative way to do things, no doubt some will disagree but I don't see how OAT and Jerez can justify their rates.
Whatever you are told or advised on here, research extensively (as I did) then you can't be annoyed if you have opted for the wrong course, school or location.
Stephen
NB As a complete aside, I used to live in Tooting.
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Originally Posted by asuweb
Nothing in this industry is guaranteed, however I believe your chances of employment as a low hours pilot is greatly increased by taking the integrated route.
And for the record, you are not actually guaranteed a job after completing training with CTC, although the odds are in your favour.
And for the record, you are not actually guaranteed a job after completing training with CTC, although the odds are in your favour.
And your statement about CTC hugely underplays the reality. CTC run cadetships rather than speculative training, so you are not comparing like with like. A comparison of job placement rates via CTC vs. any other school is very illuminating. And, of course, they are modular, not integrated!
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Clearly this has become another superiority battle integrated vs modular. Why can't we just get on with the actual training? Simply because the likes of the OAT have to create an atmosphere of fearful exclussion if you don't get on board with them. Yes Integrated is great but like I mentioned before the practical aspects of life forbid many if not the majority from pursuing this course of action. Left with the modular route the students can be assured that at the end of it the chap from the CAA will still grill them under medium-welldone (How I like my BBQ ).
The only problem I have is this relentless targetting of modular students portrayed by OAT, FTE, etc as sub-class. Civil flight training is not military, there are numerous real life concerns that need to be taken into consideration, i.e. people with families, changing careers, AFFORDABILITY, training schedules to fit around work commitments (we would all like to get a couple of weeks from work but that isn't possible, this is the UK not Socialist France). The guy how takes on this kind of 'load' even before initiating training is a real hero, heroine. Integrated have by-passed much in life and perhaps (with the exception of a few) are young and probably didn't have to work for their money to begin training. This rubbish about I took out a loan, what does that mean you can fill out an application, do you have any idea how much that money is? I don't have anything against integrated but I do have a problem when I am somehow sub-standard. Pretty much the whole of the US training establishment is modular but they have more aircraft flying safely through their and International skies than anyone else. Yep Flight safety has an integrated course but are they the only ones who can get jobs, I doubt it.
A fresh faced chap and a veteran Sergeant both begin officer training at Sandhurst....... do you get the picture and how it applies to Integrated and Modular.
). The only problem I have is this relentless targetting of modular students portrayed by OAT, FTE, etc as sub-class. Civil flight training is not military, there are numerous real life concerns that need to be taken into consideration, i.e. people with families, changing careers, AFFORDABILITY, training schedules to fit around work commitments (we would all like to get a couple of weeks from work but that isn't possible, this is the UK not Socialist France). The guy how takes on this kind of 'load' even before initiating training is a real hero, heroine. Integrated have by-passed much in life and perhaps (with the exception of a few) are young and probably didn't have to work for their money to begin training. This rubbish about I took out a loan, what does that mean you can fill out an application, do you have any idea how much that money is? I don't have anything against integrated but I do have a problem when I am somehow sub-standard. Pretty much the whole of the US training establishment is modular but they have more aircraft flying safely through their and International skies than anyone else. Yep Flight safety has an integrated course but are they the only ones who can get jobs, I doubt it.
A fresh faced chap and a veteran Sergeant both begin officer training at Sandhurst....... do you get the picture and how it applies to Integrated and Modular.
