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Old 31st Jul 2019, 06:49
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
Why? Do you have shares in Ryanair?

Please, you are an independent pilot and the market is full of opportunities. Many with a far better contract too.
Any example of airline for low hour pilot with a far better contact that Ryanair?
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 09:24
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Ryanair have always been very pragmatic in the way they operate.

Personally this seems more like itís fuelled by Brexit. I can see things working out with the Max later this year and Brexit being resolved and then they will find themselves short of pilots again as demand will start going back up.

The UK Economy has been in a bit of limbo as everyone is nervous. Once resolved it will be like the property market was a few years ago where it made up for all of the lost time.

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Old 31st Jul 2019, 09:25
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Originally Posted by FlyingGreek View Post
Ryanair have always been very pragmatic in the way they operate.

Personally this seems more like itís fuelled by Brexit. I can see things working out with the Max later this year and Brexit being resolved and then they will find themselves short of pilots again as demand will start going back up.

The UK Economy has been in a bit of limbo as everyone is nervous. Once resolved it will be like the property market was a few years ago where it made up for all of the lost time.

Finally a sensible analysis!
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 11:07
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CAE continue to advertise the Ryanair course on Facebook, which is quite surprising given the reported training delays and MOL announcement
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 16:49
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Hello everyone.

my Application went very smooth.

Applied June 15th.
Cut-e June 21st.
Phone Call June 26th.
Assessment July 16th.
Course start sept 30th on FR 1913.

Some Guys were successful in the assessment and have to wait until early January for their course to start.

I would not panic about the latest news. Ryanair still made more 270 million Ä in the second quarter and i think the mess about Brexit and the Max will be sorted by the end of the year and Ryanair will still need Pilots. I could imagine, that RYR is trying to dismiss the McGinley-Pilots first, as it is easier than to get rid of Ryanair-contract-Pilots. As long as they keep inviting people, i would apply. If you might have to wait a little after a successful assessment, but they will need Pilots again soon.
I think FlyingGreek has put it well. Other Airlines suffer from smaller win margins aswell and other LCC had it even worse...

So, who else is in FR 1913 starting September 30th? There are 4 Guys from my Assessment Group, Anyone else?
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 09:05
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Originally Posted by SquawkID View Post
Hello everyone.

my Application went very smooth.

Applied June 15th.
Cut-e June 21st.
Phone Call June 26th.
Assessment July 16th.
Course start sept 30th on FR 1913.

Some Guys were successful in the assessment and have to wait until early January for their course to start.

I would not panic about the latest news. Ryanair still made more 270 million Ä in the second quarter and i think the mess about Brexit and the Max will be sorted by the end of the year and Ryanair will still need Pilots. I could imagine, that RYR is trying to dismiss the McGinley-Pilots first, as it is easier than to get rid of Ryanair-contract-Pilots. As long as they keep inviting people, i would apply. If you might have to wait a little after a successful assessment, but they will need Pilots again soon.
I think FlyingGreek has put it well. Other Airlines suffer from smaller win margins aswell and other LCC had it even worse...

So, who else is in FR 1913 starting September 30th? There are 4 Guys from my Assessment Group, Anyone else?
There is no reason why they would want to get rid of contractor FOs because they are cheaper to the company than employees and doesn't cost them a dime to just have them just flying less, so why would they let a future captain go, when it's free to keep them?

Stop panicking, nobody will get laid off. Recruitment will go on, although in smaller numbers until there is certainty about the MAXes.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Pirrex View Post
There is no reason why they would want to get rid of contractor FOs because they are cheaper to the company than employees and doesn't cost them a dime to just have them just flying less, so why would they let a future captain go, when it's free to keep them?

Stop panicking, nobody will get laid off. Recruitment will go on, although in smaller numbers until there is certainty about the MAXes.
As is i said "i could imagine" and i don't know a thing, everyone in here is just having thoughts and by the Words of MOL, there will be people loosing their jobs. I dont know who are going to be the unlucky ones, but it looks like there will be some. I dont Panic and even suggested not to.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 11:57
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Originally Posted by davinci1 View Post

Any example of airline for low hour pilot with a far better contact that Ryanair?

Just off the top of my head, Flybe, Thomas Cook, Level, Loganair, Eurowings, Aer Lingus, Stobart. All these will cover all of your type rating costs and many will cover all your expenses too, some may even throw in a company id! Jet2 also to be included if you don't mind spending a year doing other work first, still a great opportunity to get airborne with a company who will take care of you.

Some of these hire all year round and some don't, but they have all hired in the very recent future and will hire again soon or are doing so as we speak.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 12:39
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Has anyone who applied in July got an online assessment? I applied at the very beginning of the month and nothing so far (only got the email Application Under Review)... I suspect they either didn't really like my CV or they really got their selection process to a hold.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 13:36
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Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 14:29
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Originally Posted by Wondrex View Post
Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?
300hrs? You got your facts mixed up mate. And what is wrong with Flybe and the other options? Do you have any idea of how many ex flybe guys are now in BA? ... you are treated as a human there at least and your ceo doesn't come out calling you an overpaid bus driver whilst telling the world how he is going to fire up to 500 of you in the coming months, whilst still hiring you. If you enjoy paying through the nose to be a company pawn then good luck, but as for ryr being the only gig in town that can advance your career onto a flag carrier, well you need to get out more from that insulated existence because it doesn't match reality. The year is 2019, not 2009.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 15:38
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
300hrs? You got your facts mixed up mate. And what is wrong with Flybe and the other options? Do you have any idea of how many ex flybe guys are now in BA? ... you are treated as a human there at least and your ceo doesn't come out calling you an overpaid bus driver whilst telling the world how he is going to fire up to 500 of you in the coming months, whilst still hiring you. If you enjoy paying through the nose to be a company pawn then good luck, but as for ryr being the only gig in town that can advance your career onto a flag carrier, well you need to get out more from that insulated existence because it doesn't match reality. The year is 2019, not 2009.
Sensible answer
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 17:30
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Pardon me for getting into the conversation but as a newly CPL pilot with his license in hand isnt Flybe having financial difficulties at the moment?
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 18:04
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Originally Posted by SquawkID View Post
As is i said "i could imagine" and i don't know a thing, everyone in here is just having thoughts and by the Words of MOL, there will be people loosing their jobs. I dont know who are going to be the unlucky ones, but it looks like there will be some. I dont Panic and even suggested not to.
I didn't refer to you when i said not to panic, just people here in general. You're obviously well off with your new job, congrats on that! It's really not that bad place to be, as those rejected by Ryanair makes people think!
Every single year they scare people with layoffs, last year it was downsizing in Dublin, to move people over to Poland. Not a very cool thing to threaten with, but I'm willing to bet my job on that not a single person will get fired.
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Old 1st Aug 2019, 19:12
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Originally Posted by Wondrex View Post
Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?
Actually more then that and yes they do also fly to the continent as well

ERJ not a bad A/C

Flying to unique Airfields, developing your multi crew skills with a company thatís expanding not a bad position to be in!

T/R payed for with a bond.

Still a lot of companies out there looking for Pilots who pay very well and treat you well!

However the Selection process is a lot more difficult then RYR

Such as the Lufthansa DLR

Mollymawks for SunExpress, CargoLux etc

Also, the BQ by interpersonal

Word of advice - Be humble, not everyone wants the same thing you want.


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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 10:05
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Bad news. All Course, that havent yet started (i think 1909 is the first), have been cancelled.
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
Bad attitude mate, bad attitude.

To those looking for alternatives, in Poland LOT are actively recruiting, and so are Sprint Air (they are busy).
Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 11:13
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Originally Posted by smthngdffrnt View Post
Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.
By PBN certification you mean the endorsement in you license under your Instrument Rating correct? I think it is mandatory now that All initials and revalidation's must include PBN.
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 11:49
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Ryanair can blame Brexit and the MAX all they want, but it's not down massively to either of those. As we know Ryanair had people leaving up till a few years ago at a ridiculous rate hence why they have been recruiting like mad ever since. The IAA and IALPA mandated that they make a number of changes to pilot working conditions and pay. These changes of conditions mean people have stopped leaving, hence why they stopped applications for direct entry FO and Captains early this year. Now they have less aircraft for new pilots to go onto they don't need as many pilots. Simply put "supply and demand". Ryanair now don't need as many cadets so are delaying type rating courses (course 1909 for example). Will cadets promised with type rating courses actually get one in the new year? We simply don't know. I hope they do as friends of mine are part of those promised courses and they are some of the best new aviators I know.

In terms of the other recent posts. Loganair, is a really decent airline for a fresh CPL, MEP/IR student. The Embraer 135/145 is a hot ship and they do around 800 hours a year there. The pay is decent too at £31k for a new FO and a fully bonded 5 year type rating. The company is making a profit thanks to great work from their Managing Director Jonathan Hinkles. I believe they are getting rid of the Saab 340 and Saab 2000's soon and possibly replacing them with ATR's. "flying around Scotland"...yea sure mate. They fly all over the place and into some really interesting places. Also lots of Charter work for Football teams over the UK and Europe.

In terms of LOT, my experience of applying to them has been a complete joke. I attended their Careers day at Gatwick where only 7 people turned up!! After speaking to a member of their team who was very interested in my flight training in Poland and IR examiner (TRE LOT pilot) they asked for my CV and said that I should apply asap! I applied two days later and emailed the staff member I spoke to. The staff member said in front of everyone that it would only be two weeks from applying when I could expect a reply. I have not received anything since and it's been 4 months! I even tried to contact said staff member on Linkedin but they did not reply. My advice would be put an application in but don't expect anything to happen. Likewise with Air Serbia!

Have a look at SunExpress (Turkish contract), Eurowings, DHL, Flybe, Aegean, SkyExpress, EnterAir.

I firmly believe that the peak of the employment wave has passed and now, we as fresh new pilots are going into the older days of having to wait a year or two for the chance to sniff the inside of an interview room.

Good luck to everyone and keep the blue side up
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 12:03
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RYR TR cancelled

Hi guys,
Maybe some of you heard about the bad news....
Ryanair cancelled all the TR starting from beginning of August. It's a very bad news ...
​​​​​They told us it's because of the max delivery problem...
we'll see what happens in the next few months...
I don't know if it's still possible to apply but I think it's not the best period to do it....
Cheers
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