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Old 20th Feb 2018, 20:47
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Hi guys,
I have got an assessment in beggining of March and I would like to do a sim the day before in Dublin.
I have heard of Upilot and Simtech. What would you advice ?
Thanks !
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 10:11
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Ye, spot on! was just checking out of interest.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 11:37
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Theo.P

I've heard simtech are good but can say myself as i didnt go there. I went to uPilot and Simcheck. Now both of them are very good but it depends on how confident you are and how much time in advance you're going in Dublin. I went 4 days in advance, first went to uPilot, very good Sim (identical to RYR's) and also very good instructor + it's VERY CHEAP compered to everyone else. His sim can be booked by the hour if i'm not mistaken. Then i went to Simcheck, I opted for the full thing which apart from sim training they also offer you help in the interview part so if you're a bit uncofident, afraid or not good at "selling your self" like me I think it really would help, at least it did for me. Even the guy can teach you how to answer difficult questions like "why should we hire you?" "What are some bad things about you?"


Good luck
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 12:52
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Hi guys, here my experience:

- Application sent mid december
-Email and call mid Jan.
- Assessment few weeks ago
- The day after i've got the answer

HR questions, as usual, Talk about yourself, Why have you chosen your Flight school, Have you attended other interviews.
Techincal: Stall, APU, static discharger, pitot probe and general questions about the 1st a/c that i have flown

What i can say about the simulator is: You both should have the same "level" otherwise it's really difficoult to pass that assesment.
I had a 10hrs experience on the 737 sim, but my collegue has had no experience, so it has been almost impossible for me to keep him inside the "loop".

Although i had a perfect HR and technical interview, i have been unsuccessful.

Cheers
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 19:00
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Originally Posted by Theo.P View Post
Hi guys,
I have got an assessment in beggining of March and I would like to do a sim the day before in Dublin.
I have heard of Upilot and Simtech. What would you advice ?
Thanks !
I would definitely recommend U-Pilot, the instructor is excellent, he will teach you the exact profile and procedures that ryanair will ask you in the assessment, and he also sends you some excellent study material when you book your slot, couldn’t recommend him enough.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 23:40
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Hi , anyone who had 4 attempts of atpl , had positive answer after phone call ? Maybe soomeone got job ? How you think any chance ?
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 10:49
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Does any1 know if you can match into sim pair on yourself or is the assesor deciding? I would like to apply and do sim assesment with my friend which whom I will be doing MCC course and hoping to do B737 sim session in Dublin. Thanks in advance, Cheers!
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 13:23
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They paired us up in the order we were sitting starting from the door. Just sit together in an even pair and you should be good.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 13:49
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It depends on the assessor. In my case the pairings were randomly picked by the assessor.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 14:23
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Ryanair Cadet

I'm based in Dublin and completing the final stages of an integrated ATPL. Information on career prospects, wages and further training is quite hard to come by on the internet. The obvious option would be Ryanair, however having already outlaid €73,000 on flight school, the prospect of spending another €29,500 on type rating is quite daunting particularly considering the rumors I've heard regarding the length of time it takes and the very low initial salary. I feel a lot of this information is somewhat outdated however. So in summary I have 2 main questions.

1. Are there any other options to gain employment with a frozen ATPL and no type rating?

2. What is the current situation for someone in my position entering Ryanair?
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Finn1995 View Post
1. Are there any other options to gain employment with a frozen ATPL and no type rating?
If you want to stay in Europe? Yes but not in the airlines - there is a lot more to aviation than the shiny jet. Although some airlines have been surfacing who are willing to partially pay TR.

If you must stay in Europe and want to fly airlines - you could consider turboprops. The type rating is much cheaper and the experience is invaluable. Loganair for example are always hiring and type rating is probably half of Ryanair's. They also fly to the worlds only (scheduled flight) beach runway .
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 16:28
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ok thanks guys
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 19:17
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Finn1995

1. If you want to stay in Dublin, Cityjet would be a decent option. No type rating required, which I believe is funded by the airline. Good staff travel opportunities with all their partners too!

2. Things seem to change so fast there it's impossible to say. You could be based in Dublin with no gaps during your training, you could equally end up waiting unpaid for 4 months then get sent to the middle of nowhere

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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 12:15
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except that the 95% of the names you listed dont search any F/O currently. good one. a job is still better than no job. and if the start is a little bit rough then so be it. stop complaining and get over it once you have more than 1500hrs the money is in no relation to 90% of the other airlines in europe.

cityjet requires minimum 1000hr
stobart no open positions
flybe no open positions
aerlings no open positions
loganair is looking for expirienced f/o's
easyjet requires minimum 1000hr

so tell me again where should low hour pilots apply?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 14:46
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Any information on what the unsuccessful candidates did wrong? Thanks
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 17:28
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Originally Posted by Fred332 View Post
Hi guys, here my experience:

- Application sent mid december
-Email and call mid Jan.
- Assessment few weeks ago
- The day after i've got the answer

HR questions, as usual, Talk about yourself, Why have you chosen your Flight school, Have you attended other interviews.
Techincal: Stall, APU, static discharger, pitot probe and general questions about the 1st a/c that i have flown

What i can say about the simulator is: You both should have the same "level" otherwise it's really difficoult to pass that assesment.
I had a 10hrs experience on the 737 sim, but my collegue has had no experience, so it has been almost impossible for me to keep him inside the "loop".

Although i had a perfect HR and technical interview, i have been unsuccessful.

Cheers
Because You haven't kept your partner in the loop it was unsuccessful. Probably in their opinion it was lack of CRM from your side.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 20:59
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The Foss

yeah maybe in the past but i am talking about the present. thanks for your opinion but i dont think you know me and where i applied to. i have been to 2 assesments before ryanair. i think i am determined enough, i am not saying there is no other options wtf? I just saying stop the ryanair bashing. srsly dont put words in my mouth which i never said!
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 11:14
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I think you lower your pitch to let the plane accelerate so I guess you should be done by 4000. But still I agree it’s a little margin. The best option would be for the PF to reduce the thrust levers as only the PF knows how much thrust he/she needs and adjust accordingly. Think about level flight, your on your way to the localiser and you have flap 5, speed 170... who holds the thrust then? What if he gives you 3000ft? 4000ft isn’t certain its minimum 2500 on that SID. Also think about in the go-around, you maintain flap 15 until level off then begin to accelerate.. the throttle is used by the PF.

A good move would be to mention that this threat may occur, the if it does happen who has which responsibilities etc.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 13:14
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Originally Posted by jonesyinthesky View Post
guys, as someone who was very close to this until recently, Simtech is a much better option where you will at least be prepped by a real pilot, in realistic conditions, Upilot prepped candidates have a much lower pass rate and it is real shame for cadets who are already paying €350 for the assessment, that they are not getting the prep expected. if you are thinking of wasting €400 going into something similar to microsoft flight sim, you are better off setting something up in your bedroom !

Whether you pass the assesment at RYR has nothing to do with pilot prep and skill, just see the poster above, 15 min sim with it broken and he still passed, do you really think they had time to assess anything?
They take absolute morons with no skills whatsoever but are fresh out of flightschool and younger tan 20 that are prone to follow orders without complaining. Thats the only thing they care about. If you show any kind of life experience and self initiative that shows determination and self management you are not going to pass.
Yes, they will hire someone in their thirties here and there but that is the exception.

The Upilot sim has no feedback momentarily, but pretty much like the simtech sim. Both are harder to handle tan the RYR sim, so if you handle those one nicely you will handle the RYR well but like i said the RYR assesment has nothing to do with skill or knowledge.


Not because you passed the cadet assesment you are a good pilot, you probably only are a good button pusher and mindless SOP follower. Thats it.
Another thing is if you passed the DEP or CPt assesment, the pass rate over there is legit and the assesments are done by actual LTC´s not some 70 year olds that want to go home at 5 o clock.

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Old 24th Feb 2018, 15:28
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It's easy guys. The PM hands the thrust levers between V1 and Flaps Up in case of takeoff or between Go Around call and Flaps Up in case of go around. During all other times the PF hands the thrust levers.

To accelerate during the climb, simply follow the FD, it will command a slight pitch nose down to around 10-12,5 degrees and as you retract flaps the aircraft accelerates nicely. At 1000 ft to go, simply lower the nose to 10 degrees to reduce the rate of climb and thrust levers to 80% N1. It will make the level off smoother and controllable.
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