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Old 7th Dec 2017, 20:32   #7521 (permalink)
 
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the market is so good, and you still apply for FR ?
good luck...
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 17:22   #7522 (permalink)
 
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the market is so good, and you still apply for FR ?
good luck...
would you be so kind and point me to airlines in Europe that will actually take on 200 hour cadets? Aerlingus just did their recruitment drive, 4000 applicants on 100 positions, many many of those 4000 guys with 1000+ hours on type.. paints a picture, doesn't it? Easyjet wont look at you if you're modular, Wizz is interested in Easterneuropeans for their bases, many other carriers looking at local language speakers only. If English is your only language or you are coming from a country that doesn't have a strong local airline, you are pretty much . I'd say, if you can afford Ryanair, go for it..
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Old 8th Dec 2017, 19:30   #7523 (permalink)
 
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EasyJet are actually taking modular guys now for the first time I can remember - a sign of the positive changes.
As mentioned previously I personally know 200 hr guys that have got jobs at Norwegian, cityjet, cityflyer, jet2, Flybe and dhl
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 10:50   #7524 (permalink)
 
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Anyone failed the first interview and reapplied for the second time please?

Did you pass the second interview?
Did you let them know that you have already failed the 1st interview?
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 13:54   #7525 (permalink)
 
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Hi lisa95,

I think you can reapply 6 months later after not passing the 1st time.
When did you failed the interview? Do not desperate, just keep on studying, flying if possible and try other airlines,...you know its not the end of the world.

Kind regards
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 17:46   #7526 (permalink)
 
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would you be so kind and point me to airlines in Europe that will actually take on 200 hour cadets? Aerlingus just did their recruitment drive, 4000 applicants on 100 positions, many many of those 4000 guys with 1000+ hours on type.. paints a picture, doesn't it? Easyjet wont look at you if you're modular, Wizz is interested in Easterneuropeans for their bases, many other carriers looking at local language speakers only. If English is your only language or you are coming from a country that doesn't have a strong local airline, you are pretty much . I'd say, if you can afford Ryanair, go for it..
Wizz focusing on eastern euros? The airline is currently being flooded by French and Italians and not to mention, lots of Brits now!

If you are a 200 hour cadet waiting for the call up, you are doing it wrong, GO to their open day, that they put effort into organising on a regular basis.
You show them you are interested with a bit more than a "submit" key on the web and they'll take you seriously enough to FLY you out to their training centre at their expense. Or you could pay the Irish group for the privilege of your attendance.

I worked my ugly little bum off to get in this industry, years and years of nothing from the big boys until 5 different invitations in the space of a month, times have changed and you have a choice to get out there and do something about it or you can sit back, relax and watch the others grab the available positions.
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Old 9th Dec 2017, 22:05   #7527 (permalink)
 
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You need at least 300 hour for Wizz Air. Anything that allows to log hours is good. Then absolutely attend their open days, they need pilots.
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Old 10th Dec 2017, 14:59   #7528 (permalink)
 
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maybe its time to stop you imply we are fine with those conditions. we have no other choice than to accept them or should i say at the interview yeah i want double the salary and a fixed contract? lmao get real.. can we maybe stop this now? we got it already 10 pages before, ryanair sucks, we suck aswell because we want to join them and ruin the industry.
Yes you do have a choice, all you have to say is no and walk away. There are literally lots of jobs out there. Why do you think Ryanair are having crew issues? I don't know how long you've been in aviation for but if you look back you'll notice that the employment prospect this year was very positive.

Believe it or not many people actually do turn jobs down because the T&C are bad. A while back while I was a flight instructor I went to the Globe Air interview. At the interview stage they told us that the salary was almost 30K per year. I passed the interview and when they sent me the contract the salary was 1850 per month gross and the rest was made up of different bonuses at the discretion of the company, plus I had to pay 24k for the type rating and stay there for minimum 3 years. I told them no thanks and continued to work as a flight instructor until few months later when I got a great job, well paid and most important not having to pay for anything and treated like a human being. A couple of years ago I turned down another job that is not even worth mentioning.

I also applied for Ryanair when I finished my training, back then they were literally the only choice, shortly after the financial crises. For some reason unknown to me they never called me but I continued to update my application for years to see if they are ever going to call me. This summer around July they sent me an email asking me if I am still interested in working for them, I replied yes. Then a couple of weeks after that they sent me the phone email and then called me, on the phone I made my demands regarding the type of contract, base and salary. They said is not possible and didn't invite me to the interview. It was of great satisfaction to me doing that.
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Old 10th Dec 2017, 15:16   #7529 (permalink)
 
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I have been invited for assessment on the 11th of January. Anyone else in Dublin the same day?

Cheers.
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 11:30   #7530 (permalink)
 
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GKSS, congrats for passing the interview!
Can you give us a quick feedback of the questions asked (HR and technical) and your sim ride?
Thanks!
I have my interview on the 04/01
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 18:40   #7531 (permalink)
 
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Well done to all of you passing selection lately. A huge piece of advice.

Every new starter must join the local pilot association . There is a huge battle at the moment and the plight of cadets is a big talking point, we are trying to make things better for you all.
This is probably the last time we have this opportunity at Ryanair, help it become the great airline it should be.
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 19:13   #7532 (permalink)
 
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Read the posts above, these guys would sell their mother for an underpaid job in this company, they won't bother.
They will probably be the ones to fly in their days off and out of the base to cover for the strikes of the other pilots, so they can make hours and get out to something better, as they say. Until there will be nothing better around.
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 22:47   #7533 (permalink)
 
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And are you blaming the cadets?
These conditions are up to the cadets?
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 10:50   #7534 (permalink)
 
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No, I was merely stating that they will NEVER help out their collegues. Quite the opposite in fact.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 12:20   #7535 (permalink)
 
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Jolax, Not blaming the current cadets because obviously they had nothing to do with the current situation. Those that joined before them are very much to blame because they allowed this situation to continue.

However every one that joins Ryanair now are very much to blame because they are weakening the crew's hand.

Edit: Yes the conditions are up to the cadets, they can always say no or demand better T&C
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 12:34   #7536 (permalink)
 
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So basically what you’re saying is that now all the current pilots (who were probably all P2F cadets when they joined) have the right to complain about new cadets joining just because they now have their snouts firmly in the trough?

Seems a bit hypocritical that pilots who P2F with FR 1,2,3 etc etc years ago have the audacity to complain about new cadets doing the same
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 12:40   #7537 (permalink)
 
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I am not saying that at all. If you go over my post again you'll see that those who joined before them are very much to blame because they are the ones who let this to even become a practice in the first place and then allowed it to continue.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 12:47   #7538 (permalink)
 
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However every one that joins Ryanair now are very much to blame because they are weakening the crew's hand.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 13:49   #7539 (permalink)
 
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I don't think the cadets will necessarily be weakening the current pilots hands as there is no shortage of inexperienced FOs (as will be seen by new joiners when they spend 4 months waiting for line training, then the following winter on unpaid standbys 3/4 times a week).
The real shortage lies in the Captains, this is being exacerbated by the fact that now a lot of the experienced FOs close to command hours are choosing to leave rather than upgrade. This will not be an easy fix for them.
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Old 13th Dec 2017, 17:01   #7540 (permalink)
 
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Can you please tell me your secret? Or you must be the only one that waited 1.5months?
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