Type Rating - Ryanair?
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Hello all
Im most likely gonna do a 737 NG TR late this yr whick includes 100 hrs LT - so guess Ryanair is an option after this.
I know a pilt within Ryanair and his brother is a trainingcaptain - would that improve my chances without the LT (as I might have to wait 12 months to complete that after the TR).
Well if I dont take any chances I never gonna get that ´flyingjob I always wanted
good luck to all
Jannik
Im most likely gonna do a 737 NG TR late this yr whick includes 100 hrs LT - so guess Ryanair is an option after this.
I know a pilt within Ryanair and his brother is a trainingcaptain - would that improve my chances without the LT (as I might have to wait 12 months to complete that after the TR).
Well if I dont take any chances I never gonna get that ´flyingjob I always wanted
good luck to all
Jannik
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Jannik23. Your chances of gaining employment with FR is definately improved if you have contacts within the airline. Those inside have direct access to the Flight Operations Manager and he is very keen on recomendations. Thus, if someone is willing to stake their reputation on you then that will help.
TolTol. Recruitment of S/O Cadets is still in full swing. Delivery schedule from September is one aircraft per week. Each aircraft needs 4.5 fully trained crews! Lots of pilots needed with no end in sight.
TolTol. Recruitment of S/O Cadets is still in full swing. Delivery schedule from September is one aircraft per week. Each aircraft needs 4.5 fully trained crews! Lots of pilots needed with no end in sight.
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Don't get too hasty, think of this .....
You get your Type Rating and then let's say 100+ hours on type.Now you apply to Ryanair and they still don't want you or do the usual and give you a reference/application number and then forget about you, what then? I'm not sure does the 100 hours on type really give you realistic chance of being hired? Maybe you should aim to get further hours so that if Ryanair doesn't work out for you then at least you have some time under your belt to apply elsewhere, perhaps?
Hope it all works out, I'm in the same boat and will go along the same lines too
You get your Type Rating and then let's say 100+ hours on type.Now you apply to Ryanair and they still don't want you or do the usual and give you a reference/application number and then forget about you, what then? I'm not sure does the 100 hours on type really give you realistic chance of being hired? Maybe you should aim to get further hours so that if Ryanair doesn't work out for you then at least you have some time under your belt to apply elsewhere, perhaps?
Hope it all works out, I'm in the same boat and will go along the same lines too
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Im most likely gonna do a 737 NG TR late this yr whick includes 100 hrs LT - so guess Ryanair is an option after this
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Applied to both of Ryanair´s TRTO´s yrs ago - havent heard a thing from any of them - so dont expect to hear from them at all. Nobody I know have succesfully been accepted to their scheme - no replys at all
So a last resort must be to go via another TRTO and get the rating and the 100 hrs and take it from there - and of course apply to all 737 carriers - (Ryanair is definitly not my no. 1 choice more a lack of options-thing - just wanna get my first job)
Jannik
So a last resort must be to go via another TRTO and get the rating and the 100 hrs and take it from there - and of course apply to all 737 carriers - (Ryanair is definitly not my no. 1 choice more a lack of options-thing - just wanna get my first job)
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Seriously, your best bet is to contact your training captain friend and see if he can skip you straight on to the interview/sim check.
Self funding a type rating is a BIG gamble. All the opportunities I've been offered have required at least 300 hours so even 100 hours aren’t going to help you much if Ryanair say no.
Seriously, your best bet is to contact your training captain friend and see if he can skip you straight on to the interview/sim check.
Self funding a type rating is a BIG gamble. All the opportunities I've been offered have required at least 300 hours so even 100 hours aren’t going to help you much if Ryanair say no.
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Sure will, I guess it's best to explore the more obvious paths before embarking on the frightful complications of line training and paying for hours on type. But at every point I like to keep a realistic expectations "what if", "what's the probability", "in case it doesn't work out do I have an exit strategy or plan B?". You get my drift. Anyway best of luck.
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Hi Boogey-nicey
all suggestions are more than welcome - unfortunately I cannot se any other options anymore - finished training 2 yrs ago - have a louse freelance arialphoto-job which gives me 40 hrs A YEAR. Business is picking up more and more pilots are needed - heard a lot of succes stories with people who funded their onw rating. I get linetraining for free and my first PFC for free- so I "only" pay £15.000 for a 737 Classic and NG which is then valid for 2 yrs (as I dont have to pay for my first PFC) surely I should be able to land a job with in the next 2 yrs and with 100 hrs on type - Im trying to be as optimistic as possible and see the solution on my jobhunt and not further problems here - so Im hoping for the best (for all of us)
But as I said - suggestions are VERY welcome
Jannik
all suggestions are more than welcome - unfortunately I cannot se any other options anymore - finished training 2 yrs ago - have a louse freelance arialphoto-job which gives me 40 hrs A YEAR. Business is picking up more and more pilots are needed - heard a lot of succes stories with people who funded their onw rating. I get linetraining for free and my first PFC for free- so I "only" pay £15.000 for a 737 Classic and NG which is then valid for 2 yrs (as I dont have to pay for my first PFC) surely I should be able to land a job with in the next 2 yrs and with 100 hrs on type - Im trying to be as optimistic as possible and see the solution on my jobhunt and not further problems here - so Im hoping for the best (for all of us)
But as I said - suggestions are VERY welcome
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What about applying to Vueling or Wizz on the A320? At least you get your hours for free (did i just say that?!?) or even better you may even get a little money in your direction.
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Well the plan I have gives me 100 hrs linetraining for free - I even get paid during linetraining so not that bad a deal (now that I HAVE to pay ofr it myself)
I´ll try to give em a call . and its not 78- months ago - its close to 2 yrs
JAnnik
I´ll try to give em a call . and its not 78- months ago - its close to 2 yrs
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Jannick, your 100 hours for free is definitely a good deal compared to most. However regarding SAS and CAE, there's a few posters on the 'Terms and Endearment' forum who have in that period of time, applied, trained, commenced their line training and who are now in fully paid work. This industry seems to contain lots of very lazy, forgetful Human Resources departments who need a casual kick up the ass to get things moving. You must pound them for an answer whether that be yes or no!
No news doesn’t necessarily mean you failed. Take my last job as an example (non aviation). I applied, and then followed up 1 month later, they forgot they ever advertised for the job! The next week they called me for an interview, which I passed. I then had to remind them about myself another month later….after which I got the job. Most HR types only know how to drink sh*t loads of coffee, gossip, surf the Internet for holidays (and boy do they bitch when the Internet is not working or is slow), and go home at the end of the day. Having said that, right now RyanAir are advertising for a job as a Pilot Recruitment Officer in case someone is interested.
No news doesn’t necessarily mean you failed. Take my last job as an example (non aviation). I applied, and then followed up 1 month later, they forgot they ever advertised for the job! The next week they called me for an interview, which I passed. I then had to remind them about myself another month later….after which I got the job. Most HR types only know how to drink sh*t loads of coffee, gossip, surf the Internet for holidays (and boy do they bitch when the Internet is not working or is slow), and go home at the end of the day. Having said that, right now RyanAir are advertising for a job as a Pilot Recruitment Officer in case someone is interested.
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Hi All,
This site often puzzles me and so does alot of the content I read. So firstly i'd like to clarify the position of easyjet and ryanair.
Easyjet require 500hrs multi crew airline time not just 737/319 on type time Unless, you have been successful through CTC and more recently GECAT or CAE easyjet are taking from all 3. The mention of 17 Oxford cadets being recruited were through GECAT and NOT Oxford direct and I know for a fact easyJet haven't been that impressed by the standard of those from there. Ryanair as there website mentions 100hrs + on type.
I know that easyJet are in need of approx 500 pilots by april next year! and I would assume Ryanair would be similar. Both are canceling flights and easyjet are sub chartering approx 4 aircraft a day due to crew shortages.
Nobody else has mentioed any other airline that would possibly be likely to take you with 100 hrs on type. Jet2, flyglobespan, TNT, Skyeurope, BMIbaby to name just a few and all have! A friend, f-atpl 220Hrs integrated oxford student is in the hold pool for Globespan no TR. These have all taken people from varying experience backgrounds in the past and i'm sure will again.
Airlines are advetising for 300hrs and 500hrs + on type but are there really that many guys out there with that experience looking for work? the answer is certainly no or airlines would not be cancelling flight etc.... so they will all have to look to take guys with less time.
My position is the same as many of you. f-atpl 200 hrs TT. Do I sit around hoping to get that lucky break like many of you? or do I take the risk invest a further large sum of money get a TR +100 hrs on type and be more employable. U may question this. But I would be. No type rating cost for the airline, demonstrated the ability to pass a Jet TR and OPC for line flying therefore cheaper to train and a lower risk than a 200 hr f-atpl. Assess the risk! if easyjet and ryanair need 1000 pilots in the next 12 months alone think about the industry europe wide!! More and more people are paying for TR's and its becoming the norm. The risk if you ask me is a good one if things continue the way they are. I'm bitting the bullet, risking bankrupcy if I dont get a job and going for a TR + 100hrs. I'll let you all know if it was worth it. I'm sure many will have views on what I have written and I look forward to hearing them.
Until then good luck I hope we alll end up working in this crazy industry we all seem to love.!!!
This site often puzzles me and so does alot of the content I read. So firstly i'd like to clarify the position of easyjet and ryanair.
Easyjet require 500hrs multi crew airline time not just 737/319 on type time Unless, you have been successful through CTC and more recently GECAT or CAE easyjet are taking from all 3. The mention of 17 Oxford cadets being recruited were through GECAT and NOT Oxford direct and I know for a fact easyJet haven't been that impressed by the standard of those from there. Ryanair as there website mentions 100hrs + on type.
I know that easyJet are in need of approx 500 pilots by april next year! and I would assume Ryanair would be similar. Both are canceling flights and easyjet are sub chartering approx 4 aircraft a day due to crew shortages.
Nobody else has mentioed any other airline that would possibly be likely to take you with 100 hrs on type. Jet2, flyglobespan, TNT, Skyeurope, BMIbaby to name just a few and all have! A friend, f-atpl 220Hrs integrated oxford student is in the hold pool for Globespan no TR. These have all taken people from varying experience backgrounds in the past and i'm sure will again.
Airlines are advetising for 300hrs and 500hrs + on type but are there really that many guys out there with that experience looking for work? the answer is certainly no or airlines would not be cancelling flight etc.... so they will all have to look to take guys with less time.
My position is the same as many of you. f-atpl 200 hrs TT. Do I sit around hoping to get that lucky break like many of you? or do I take the risk invest a further large sum of money get a TR +100 hrs on type and be more employable. U may question this. But I would be. No type rating cost for the airline, demonstrated the ability to pass a Jet TR and OPC for line flying therefore cheaper to train and a lower risk than a 200 hr f-atpl. Assess the risk! if easyjet and ryanair need 1000 pilots in the next 12 months alone think about the industry europe wide!! More and more people are paying for TR's and its becoming the norm. The risk if you ask me is a good one if things continue the way they are. I'm bitting the bullet, risking bankrupcy if I dont get a job and going for a TR + 100hrs. I'll let you all know if it was worth it. I'm sure many will have views on what I have written and I look forward to hearing them.
Until then good luck I hope we alll end up working in this crazy industry we all seem to love.!!!
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Originally Posted by ducati1980
The mention of 17 Oxford cadets being recruited were through GECAT and NOT Oxford direct and I know for a fact easyJet haven't been that impressed by the standard of those from there
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I went to Oxford myself - did the groundschoold there (Im modular) and frankly I dont get how they ofte can just walk into a job after finishing training - severeal integrated students failed so many exams that they had to sit ALL 14 exams all over again and were not allowed to go to pheonix to start their CPL - but I bet they have a job now - coz it says OAT on their CV 
and Ducati1980 if that amount of pilots are needed from those 2 airlines alone next year - I dont think anyone with a typerating can loose - and thats a chance Im willing to take to land my job.
Jannik
and Ducati1980 if that amount of pilots are needed from those 2 airlines alone next year - I dont think anyone with a typerating can loose - and thats a chance Im willing to take to land my job.
Jannik
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Originally Posted by Jannik23
I went to Oxford myself - did the groundschoold there (Im modular) and frankly I dont get how they ofte can just walk into a job after finishing training - severeal integrated students failed so many exams that they had to sit ALL 14 exams all over again and were not allowed to go to pheonix to start their CPL - but I bet they have a job now - coz it says OAT on their CV