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Good luck sir!
The best way is to unscrew your head and install the Robonige2005 computer brain. I think it comes already programmed with the latest bid line rules!!
The best way is to unscrew your head and install the Robonige2005 computer brain. I think it comes already programmed with the latest bid line rules!!
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Try the thread below. It certainly helped me
http://www.pprune.org/go.php?go=/pub...Selection.html
Good luck
Try the thread below. It certainly helped me
http://www.pprune.org/go.php?go=/pub...Selection.html
Good luck
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Hello,
Next month I'm going for an interview with BA.
I'm sure I'm not the only one. Thought I'd open up a new topic to hear the latest news on what's goin on.
Have some questions:
- Could anyone tell me how many pilots they're still looking for ?
- What sectors are they recruiting for ? MH, LH, either one ?
- If accepted, would you go into service straight away, or do you go into the 'Hold pool' ? And on what does this depend ?
Maybe some guys that have recently started with them could answer me on that one ?
Greetings,
YellowMonster
Next month I'm going for an interview with BA.
I'm sure I'm not the only one. Thought I'd open up a new topic to hear the latest news on what's goin on.
Have some questions:
- Could anyone tell me how many pilots they're still looking for ?
- What sectors are they recruiting for ? MH, LH, either one ?
- If accepted, would you go into service straight away, or do you go into the 'Hold pool' ? And on what does this depend ?
Maybe some guys that have recently started with them could answer me on that one ?
Greetings,
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Yellow Monster,
I am mid way through line training with BA so will try and answer your questions:
1) On our induction day in April we were told that BA had recruited about 100ish DEP's and that this was roughly half of the requirement for this year. At that stage the plan was to have a course of DEP's starting every week through to October at the earliest and possibly beyond.
2)They are recruiting for both medium and long haul operations. If you have a full ATPL with a significant amount of time on heavy jets then you will most likely get streamed to the Long Haul on the 777, if less than 1000tt on jets then expect to be offered the A320. This is not hard and fast and currently seems to be changing everytime you speak to someone.
3)If accepted you will always go into the holding pool. The question then becomes 'how long will you be in the holding pool?'. At the moment it is likely you will be straight in and straight out. I was in the holding pool for approx. 4 days and this seems to be the norm at the moment. You can turn down a job offer at this stage and you will then stay in the hold pool and MAY be offered something again in the future if required.
Hope that helps.
A.H.
I am mid way through line training with BA so will try and answer your questions:
1) On our induction day in April we were told that BA had recruited about 100ish DEP's and that this was roughly half of the requirement for this year. At that stage the plan was to have a course of DEP's starting every week through to October at the earliest and possibly beyond.
2)They are recruiting for both medium and long haul operations. If you have a full ATPL with a significant amount of time on heavy jets then you will most likely get streamed to the Long Haul on the 777, if less than 1000tt on jets then expect to be offered the A320. This is not hard and fast and currently seems to be changing everytime you speak to someone.
3)If accepted you will always go into the holding pool. The question then becomes 'how long will you be in the holding pool?'. At the moment it is likely you will be straight in and straight out. I was in the holding pool for approx. 4 days and this seems to be the norm at the moment. You can turn down a job offer at this stage and you will then stay in the hold pool and MAY be offered something again in the future if required.
Hope that helps.
A.H.
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Hi everyone...I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this or not...If not, feel free to move it to where it should be.
Anyway, I'm currently cabin crew for BA, but am very interested in working up the front end of the plane, and just have a few questions.
Firstly, does anybody know of, or if there's likely to be another cadet program run by the company? If so, what type of qualifications do you need?
If there's no cadet program to be run, what's the average cost to fund yourself through flying school, and where's the best place to do this? Is it a full time course, or can you work and do the course at the same time? And finally, on average how long does it take most people to become fully qualified ie. CPL???
Thanks all.......
Anyway, I'm currently cabin crew for BA, but am very interested in working up the front end of the plane, and just have a few questions.
Firstly, does anybody know of, or if there's likely to be another cadet program run by the company? If so, what type of qualifications do you need?
If there's no cadet program to be run, what's the average cost to fund yourself through flying school, and where's the best place to do this? Is it a full time course, or can you work and do the course at the same time? And finally, on average how long does it take most people to become fully qualified ie. CPL???
Thanks all.......
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Hey Sarah, its as good a place as any to start looking...Have a look in Wannabies thats full of info on how to get up the front, the different schools and costs.
The two main schools in the UK are Oxford Air Training and Cabair, but there are many many more smaller ones. There are two main ways to get your license, integrated (basicaly starting from scratch studying full time lasts about 18 months) and modular (where you start off with a PPL, private pilots license, and slowly work your way up part time, takes as long as it takes). Cost wise integrated is the most expensive and costs approx £60k ish and modular probably£40k ish.
Have a chat to the pilots you fly with Im sure they will be pleased to help.
Sadly I think the days of cadetships have gone, and getting a job as an ab-initio pilot at the end of it all isn't easy.
Hope thats a little help but its a huge topic that needs alot of research
The two main schools in the UK are Oxford Air Training and Cabair, but there are many many more smaller ones. There are two main ways to get your license, integrated (basicaly starting from scratch studying full time lasts about 18 months) and modular (where you start off with a PPL, private pilots license, and slowly work your way up part time, takes as long as it takes). Cost wise integrated is the most expensive and costs approx £60k ish and modular probably£40k ish.
Have a chat to the pilots you fly with Im sure they will be pleased to help.
Sadly I think the days of cadetships have gone, and getting a job as an ab-initio pilot at the end of it all isn't easy.
Hope thats a little help but its a huge topic that needs alot of research
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have a look on www.britishairwaysjobs.com for cadetships.
Also try www.ccat.org.uk for self funded course! Good luck!
Anymore info - feel free to PM!
Also try www.ccat.org.uk for self funded course! Good luck!
Anymore info - feel free to PM!
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While the BA Cadet Pilot scheme is still referred to on their website, it does not currently exist and it seems unlikely that it will ever resume in the format it took before 9/11. There is no news to suggest that any BA Cadet scheme is likely in the near future.
Check the Archive thread on Wannabes - Professional Pilot Training for lots of information about the types of courses and their costs, the timescales involved, and the experiences of those who have gone through them. Expect to pay somewhere between £45,000 and £100,000 depending on which route you take, and how long you take to do it. An ATPL can be achieved whille in full-time employment if your employer is flexible. In fact, on that note - I've a feeling that you can do much of the course at the BA Flying Club at Booker, near High Wycombe, at a BA-subsidised cost. Check your internal staff information for more details.
Scroggs
Check the Archive thread on Wannabes - Professional Pilot Training for lots of information about the types of courses and their costs, the timescales involved, and the experiences of those who have gone through them. Expect to pay somewhere between £45,000 and £100,000 depending on which route you take, and how long you take to do it. An ATPL can be achieved whille in full-time employment if your employer is flexible. In fact, on that note - I've a feeling that you can do much of the course at the BA Flying Club at Booker, near High Wycombe, at a BA-subsidised cost. Check your internal staff information for more details.
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G'day Sarah,
What made you change your mind?
BA Flying Club is a good choice and being a staff member you might get some sort of discount, i have just moved there to continue with my training from a previous flying school.
Like scroggs has mentioned you can indeed do your training while working (that's what i'm doing at the moment) and yourself being cabin crew im sure it would be possible to fit your training around your day's off and holidays, it is possible.
Regarding cost, well i have to admit it is not cheap it all depends where you do your training, but certainly the modular route is cheaper than integrated.
All the best anything im just a PM away, and if you pop in to BA flying Club just let me know.
Regards,
Airway
What made you change your mind?
BA Flying Club is a good choice and being a staff member you might get some sort of discount, i have just moved there to continue with my training from a previous flying school.
Like scroggs has mentioned you can indeed do your training while working (that's what i'm doing at the moment) and yourself being cabin crew im sure it would be possible to fit your training around your day's off and holidays, it is possible.
Regarding cost, well i have to admit it is not cheap it all depends where you do your training, but certainly the modular route is cheaper than integrated.
All the best anything im just a PM away, and if you pop in to BA flying Club just let me know.
Regards,
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Firstly, does anybody know of, or if there's likely to be another cadet program run by the company?
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Sarah,
Have you had a look at the CTC Wings Programme? It is probably the closest scheme to a cadetship programme running at the moment. About 80% of the cadets are pre selected by an airline, normally easyJet, and the remainder are placed after traning to airline such as Monarach or Britannia.
www.ctcaviation.com/wings
There is a long running thread on PPrune regarding the scheme.
Timeout
Have you had a look at the CTC Wings Programme? It is probably the closest scheme to a cadetship programme running at the moment. About 80% of the cadets are pre selected by an airline, normally easyJet, and the remainder are placed after traning to airline such as Monarach or Britannia.
www.ctcaviation.com/wings
There is a long running thread on PPrune regarding the scheme.
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From the horses mouth; the cadetship programme is frozen until the 55/60+ retirement issue is resolved, as the longer lead in time for cadets makes crew planning difficult.
There-after, it will be re-considered.
There-after, it will be re-considered.
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How true is this though!!
Why would BA start up the scheme again when they can pick and choose the best from OAT etc...
Also all BA has to pay for is the type rating on the A3xx and the B737 so why start to pay the 70k plus for training as well as type rating, when there are future pilots who are prepared to pay the 70k.
It wouldant seem logical. Also i though BA retired at 55 and didant have any flight Crew over that age?
Andy
Why would BA start up the scheme again when they can pick and choose the best from OAT etc...
Also all BA has to pay for is the type rating on the A3xx and the B737 so why start to pay the 70k plus for training as well as type rating, when there are future pilots who are prepared to pay the 70k.
It wouldant seem logical. Also i though BA retired at 55 and didant have any flight Crew over that age?
Andy
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My understanding is that BA's retirement age may well go up to 60 in 12-18 months time (I stand to be corrected if I am wrong)..... this could slow their current brisk levels of recruitment to a trickle for 4-5 years as older pilots stay put for another 5 years.... this of course will have a knock on impact all the way down the recruitment foodchain..... certainly food for thought if you plan on spending £70k on an integrated course with the intention of emerging with a fresh frozen ATPL in c18 months time.... any older experienced hacks out their got a view as to what this may mean for us wanabees looking for that first break? (scroggs et al???)
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I believe BA had already extended it to 60 a month or so ago for those who wish to go on until then, with a view to increasing it further or eliminating it in accordance with the EU directives once the procedures for establishing the suitability of older pilots are established - and once the French bother complying with EU directives.
Ironic really that we have the best compliance with EU directives when the French are supposed to think that they are the centre of the EU. I digress...
Ironic really that we have the best compliance with EU directives when the French are supposed to think that they are the centre of the EU. I digress...