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Old 14th Oct 2005, 07:08
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That's partly true Angel, but as long as you can produce a letter verified by an operator / chief pilot that you were flying the aircraft in accordance with multi pilot operations, then you can still get your unfrozen ATPL isued.

Highland Airways do that with their C406 crews for example, I'm sure Loganair do the same with their twin otter drivers and it doesn't even have to be time logged in Europe, I know a couple of Aussies who have been issued full ATPLs based on their multi crew bandit time from down under.
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Old 14th Oct 2005, 19:30
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In order to unfreeze your ATPL you need to get a type rating on an aircraft that was originaly certified multi-crew. However the hours spent multi-crew in an aircraft originaly certified single crew may count towards the 500hr multi-crew requirement so long as it is in acordance with company sop's and you get a company letter to that effect.

Pilots of A/C such as the 406 king air etc will still have to get that type rating (and new job, bond, loan etc etc) before they can unfreeze the ATPL.

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Old 14th Oct 2005, 22:06
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Yeah that's how we do it, I've been trying to think of that answer all day today and you've saved me the trouble of looking it up thanks PT6Driver.

Time spent in King Airs, bandits, C406s etc can all count towards the 500 multi crew requirement, but you still need to do a LPC in a multi pilot aircraft to get the ATPL issued. If you have those hours then as soon as you complete your type rating on your first MPA you can just send away your LST report along with your letter from your operator that verifies these 500 multi crew hours, and the ATPL should be issued no probs.
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Old 18th Oct 2005, 07:33
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My company operates all of its aircraft 2 crew, Seneca, Navajo and king air. Does this mean I can log my right hand seat sectors as P2?
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Old 18th Oct 2005, 18:27
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Can only log P2 on such types if they are operated in such a way that the CAA/JAA accept as essential eg: Police flying at night at low level in an Islansder or a King Air used in Calibration of ILS - 2 crew mandatory under ICAO Annex 10 - because latter is flown in a demanding environment - checking CAT3 roll out guidance at 50 feet and fitting around normal traffic - often in the dark with terrain to think about on the go around......(see: www.flightprecision.co.uk)
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