After 3 months of looking got my first airline job.... AND I TURNED IT DOWN

[Mercenary Pilot]

I know of at least 3 people who got nothing out of an earlier scheme having paid for thier own TR. However, one of my mates attended a recent interview for Emerald and they told him things are on the up there and they need pilots. I told him to proceed with caution but I think the prospect of getting into a large aircraft will sway him into taking it. Personally, I think turning it down is the right choice but I would be interested to find out whos paid and who is actually flying the line.

Good luck to everyone involved whatever they decide.

P.S. Ive also heard that Atlantic are probably going to take over Emerald? Rumour or truth? Is that a good thing for the new pilots or not? Anyone know?

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

If the £10k doesn't buy you the job plus type rating with no bond then that's different.

Perhaps on reflection there are better ways of spending £10k if there is any real risk of Emerald never giving you a job or going bust. One of the problems at Emerald is the lack of flying hours.

You might well be able to fly another small operator willing to take you and your £10k type rating donation on. Who will then give you a lot more hours.

Or there are options such as flying instruction - there's a real shortage developing and terms and conditions are improving as a result.

Good luck,

WWW

[Germstone]

one of my mates attended a recent interview for Emerald and they told him things are on the up there and they need pilots

there hardly going to turn round and say there on there arse are they ?

after all if they did would you want to take a job with them

[YYZ_Instructor]

Don't worry about it at all!

I did the same thing with Emerald....You are better off not flying with them. I fly to Liverpool almost everyday and the operation is horrible. If you type rate yourself on any of those planes, the next time you will ever see one after is in a museum. Since I know a lot about the Euromanx deal, I can tell you that Emerald won't be lasting long on the Isle of Man either.....so those ATP's won't be flying.

Smart move to walk away from that... I did and there are probably a few others out there that have as well!

Good luck with real work....

G

[Say again s l o w l y]

Have a look at the thread in the Freight Dogs section about the Emerald Sheds.

Then pass comment.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=185012

[thereceiver2004]

Part of the reason i turned it down was the fact I can not get the cash quickly for such a risky outlay.

also a friend of mine has told me there are plans from Air Contractors to base an ATR at Bournemouth to do mail runs to the channel islands.... i was thinking surely there is not that mail to warrant two companies doing the runs...

Anyway good move or bad.. i will have to wait and see and continue my search.. to all of you looking good luck

TR

[silverknapper]

Would say you have done right. I heard recently of two guys who forked out and still haven't started a course. Not sure if they'll go bust - people have been saying it for years and they always sem to keep going. If I were spending £10k I agree with above. Get an ATR, dash 8 or even jetstream 32/41. You should then be able to get a job no problem.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

But the I've been hearing that Emeralds about to go bust since I became a Wannabe in 1997 and it ain't ever happened.

There's no right answer on this one.

Cheers

WWW

[Say again s l o w l y]

To be fair, the mantra "Emerald is on the way out" was an old and tired one. Emerald never had any debt and owned all their own a/c. They may have looked crap, but the company was pretty rosy (financially).

Life has changed hugely since the ATP's were bought and Streamline was purchased. All of a sudden the company had a mountain of debt and not enough know-how to actually get these new purchases up and running properly.

Fast forward a couple of years............. They are now in the do-do.

This might be personal opinion, but thereciever has made a good call in my book.

[Mercenary Pilot]

there hardly going to turn round and say there on there arse are they ?

You dont say, thanks for that

Actually my mate says they were quite up front about alot of things, like the fact that most of the pilots hired are just there to build up hours and they accept that. Still I think hes going to make a bad choice...

I noticed Atlantic are advertising for ATP captains, correct me if im wrong but AA dont have ATP's....yet!

[moku]

It was the right thing to do!!

Well done mate! If I was offered that last year I doubt I'd have the balls to have done the same.

Best move though.

Moku.

[Officer Dibbles]

agreed, good move. If you have any doubt about anything that involves paying out then it is best to hang on to your cash.

[angelorange]

a brave move

since sept 11 lots of operators have either left their entry salary's low, introduced a B or C scale or expect you to fork out for a type rating - even if no other firm operates the type!

Be careful what you sign...

[timzsta]

How many hours do you have? I spoke to Emerald a few months ago and they told me they don't accept applications from people with less then 1000hrs.

Have their requirements changed? Or was it the fact you were willing to pay for your TR that got them interested in you?

Different things can interest different airlines. I had an assessment with a jet operator recently (sadly didn't make the grade) but they told me they were interested in me because my notice period with my (non-aviation related) employer is just 2 weeks.

[Mercenary Pilot]

They had an open day recently and as far as I know there was no minimum requirements (other than fATPL). My pal definitly hasnt got 1000hrs.

[The Red Max]

requirement was min 1000 hrs OR to live near a base

[Germstone]

requirement was min 1000 hrs OR to live near a base

mmm yeah i can see there logic

because being a mile from a base is as good as having a 1000hrs!!

[Fretwanger]

Turned it down!!!
Bravo, you have big balls, your a better man than me, amongst many...

[Mr R Sole]

You made the best move. At least you won't have to get a pair of flying goggles and a silk flying scarf!

[Ice Magna]

Invited to the open day

Hi All

I have been invited to the open day coming very soon. Going through the posts I am getting very unsure of the prospects at emerald.

Can anybody offer an advice on whether its better to go through CTC or get a job with Emerald as i have been invited to Stage two of CTC as well.

Replies very much appreciated

Thanks

Ice