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That said - I have an integrated background with Multi IR and Jet sim time plus a background of hobby flying on the C152. If that's not what they want then what??? Possibly an age thing?
i wrote back telling them how disapointed I was etc. but would welcome any info and feedback that they could give. They said I needed some more command hours on jet. Then I should re-apply.
i wrote back telling them how disapointed I was etc. but would welcome any info and feedback that they could give. They said I needed some more command hours on jet. Then I should re-apply.
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Thomas Cook interview - been there, done that.
Just been to the TC interview.
A relaxed and informal hour spent with 1 HR person and 2 Pilot managers.
Simple process, start with a few loosener questions to get you talking,"When did you first want to be a pilot?" etc, nothing taxing.
Moves on to your CV and you'll be asked a bit about previous jobs /experience, and your interests.
Then the technical qusetions start. You ahould know what a Perf A aircraft is, how is it defined? What are the performance criteria of a Perf A aircraft. Refresh your memory on the segments involved from start of take off run all the way screen height, gear up, clean up acceleration and climb. what are the considerations to be aware of during each segment? You should know what all the V speeds are, and what the critical stages are of this part of a flight. Don't worry about knowing it all backwards, a broad understanding and how you answer the question is most important.
Be relaxed, and make them feel comfortable in your presence. They're mainly looking for someone who they can sit in a cockpit with for an extended period having not met you before, do the job and then go out on the town later without wanting to throttle you!!
Piece of cake.
Good luck.
A relaxed and informal hour spent with 1 HR person and 2 Pilot managers.
Simple process, start with a few loosener questions to get you talking,"When did you first want to be a pilot?" etc, nothing taxing.
Moves on to your CV and you'll be asked a bit about previous jobs /experience, and your interests.
Then the technical qusetions start. You ahould know what a Perf A aircraft is, how is it defined? What are the performance criteria of a Perf A aircraft. Refresh your memory on the segments involved from start of take off run all the way screen height, gear up, clean up acceleration and climb. what are the considerations to be aware of during each segment? You should know what all the V speeds are, and what the critical stages are of this part of a flight. Don't worry about knowing it all backwards, a broad understanding and how you answer the question is most important.
Be relaxed, and make them feel comfortable in your presence. They're mainly looking for someone who they can sit in a cockpit with for an extended period having not met you before, do the job and then go out on the town later without wanting to throttle you!!
Piece of cake.
Good luck.
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On-line application
Hi,
I have been on Thomas Cook recruitment website http://www.thomascookjobs.co.uk/USER...ot_recruit.htm :
"Direct Entry Pilots
This is handled by our Flight Operations Department and is only available on-line. CV's are not accepted."
I could not find any link ??? and was wondering if one has any idea if the on-line applications is closed, or do i need IT assistance as well ??
Thanks
Zest
I have been on Thomas Cook recruitment website http://www.thomascookjobs.co.uk/USER...ot_recruit.htm :
"Direct Entry Pilots
This is handled by our Flight Operations Department and is only available on-line. CV's are not accepted."
I could not find any link ??? and was wondering if one has any idea if the on-line applications is closed, or do i need IT assistance as well ??
Thanks
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Hi
I think you might be a bit unlucky if you are thinking about applying. I believe their online application closed a while ago as they now have completed their recruitment for this year.
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I think you might be a bit unlucky if you are thinking about applying. I believe their online application closed a while ago as they now have completed their recruitment for this year.
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That said - I have an integrated background with Multi IR and Jet sim time plus a background of hobby flying on the C152. If that's not what they want then what??? Possibly an age thing?
i wrote back telling them how disapointed I was etc. but would welcome any info and feedback that they could give. They said I needed some more command hours on jet. Then I should re-apply.
i wrote back telling them how disapointed I was etc. but would welcome any info and feedback that they could give. They said I needed some more command hours on jet. Then I should re-apply.
Unfortunately most Airlines don't want anyone over the 30-35 barrier, But the older person could be more experienced and have better people skills for the job?
I don't know what they mean by 're-applying', more command hours on Jet - which Jet? yours or theirs hu? That sounds like a better way of saying no thank you.
It's a C22 situation for both parties.
Best Wishes.
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Thomas Cook
Hi All,
Ahead of the possible emergence of a Thomas Cook 'sponsorship' at Oxford Aviation later in the year, I was wondering if anybody would like to comment on the company, it's practices and general terms and conditions. What are their basing policies and rosters like? Any information would be very much appreciated!
Ahead of the possible emergence of a Thomas Cook 'sponsorship' at Oxford Aviation later in the year, I was wondering if anybody would like to comment on the company, it's practices and general terms and conditions. What are their basing policies and rosters like? Any information would be very much appreciated!
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Thomas Cook Interview
I've just been invited to one at very short notice, its my first with an airline and Im chuffed to bits as you can imagine. Done a search on here but most of the info on here is a little out of date.
Can anyone advise on some of the technical and personality type questions they were asked?
i.e.
On a 757 what sort of .................., and
Give me an example of when .......................
Running themes seem to be:
Define Cat C aircraft/Perf A aircraft/Cat A airports
Actions on an EFATO/V1
Recall actions for TR applicants
Flap schedule
High speed flight
and for the personality stuff it seems to be:
Give examples when you have shown leadership/worked as part of a team
Describe your faults/motivations/plus points
Format of the day and ideally the level of questions asked of people already holding a TR opposed to CPL/IR only holders would be greatly encouraged and appreciated.
Can anyone advise on some of the technical and personality type questions they were asked?
i.e.
On a 757 what sort of .................., and
Give me an example of when .......................
Running themes seem to be:
Define Cat C aircraft/Perf A aircraft/Cat A airports
Actions on an EFATO/V1
Recall actions for TR applicants
Flap schedule
High speed flight
and for the personality stuff it seems to be:
Give examples when you have shown leadership/worked as part of a team
Describe your faults/motivations/plus points
Format of the day and ideally the level of questions asked of people already holding a TR opposed to CPL/IR only holders would be greatly encouraged and appreciated.
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In answer to a number of messages I've been sent by privately, here is additional info on how I got the interview, however still nothing tangible regarding the interview content from anyone:
Finished a 757 TR last week after completing my base check at Manston.
Called TC on Thursday, spoke to the relevant contact there, was told summer hiring complete and to keep an eye on the website. Was polite and courteous and to be fair the person I spoke who no doubt has to deal with numerous calls every day from everyone from newly certified PPL passes to CPL/IR holders to TR'd candidates like me took time and was kind and helpful, a rarity so far I've found.
Friday afternoon . . . phone call, something has came up in past 24 hours, new developments, can you attend an interview on Monday?
Over the moon, now need to clinch it.
I'm under the impression it a mixture of right place, right time and me holding a TR. I'm surprised because I went modular and also not via CTC which is normal low houred route in I believe.
Finished a 757 TR last week after completing my base check at Manston.
Called TC on Thursday, spoke to the relevant contact there, was told summer hiring complete and to keep an eye on the website. Was polite and courteous and to be fair the person I spoke who no doubt has to deal with numerous calls every day from everyone from newly certified PPL passes to CPL/IR holders to TR'd candidates like me took time and was kind and helpful, a rarity so far I've found.
Friday afternoon . . . phone call, something has came up in past 24 hours, new developments, can you attend an interview on Monday?
Over the moon, now need to clinch it.
I'm under the impression it a mixture of right place, right time and me holding a TR. I'm surprised because I went modular and also not via CTC which is normal low houred route in I believe.
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May I ask a question?
Why did you choose the 757 if you were paying for a type rating rather than a 737 / A320
Also if you went modular which would mean to say that you were trying to save costs, all of a sudden you have 20k to buy a type rating?
Also if you balls up at Tcook I would advise trying Jet 2 as they are expanding into 757's all the time.
Why did you choose the 757 if you were paying for a type rating rather than a 737 / A320
Also if you went modular which would mean to say that you were trying to save costs, all of a sudden you have 20k to buy a type rating?
Also if you balls up at Tcook I would advise trying Jet 2 as they are expanding into 757's all the time.
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You asked three questions
First question, 757 why:
Modular, spending 20k question:
Finally, thanks for the alternative advice with respect to Jet2 and the positive vibes, ever considered being a motivational speaker?
First question, 757 why:
- Heaviest aircraft someone with low hours can fly (over 108T MTOM)
- Combined TR with the 767
- In past year lots of UK based companies going for the 75/76 because they can pick them up from the desert in California where they are furlowed for much less than getting a new 73/320
- I felt the job market was more boyant
- If I had a 73 TR under my belt, if needs demanded it I may have considered Ryan, yuk
- The 757 has a nice mix of EFIS and raw data instruments, a good start on the jet tranistion
Modular, spending 20k question:
- I went modular because I got more flying for a lot less money.
- I did this in Los Angeles where my cross countries were to Las Vegas, San Fransisco, San Diego, etc.
- I didn't want to go to a pilot factory.
- I wanted to also gain some life experience from my training, not just turn up and have everything laid on for me, even meals.
- I didn't want to pay the aforementioned pilot factory a significant surcharge to cover their marketing expenses.
- In the current climate, I decided I had to do something to make my CV stand out from the rest, so I bit the bullet and took one step back to hopefully take 2 forward.
- I believe what I've done shows initiative, drive and has also removed a fair expense and element of risk from any potential employer.
- I should realise a better starting salary, I have more control over the direction of my career as I shouldn't be bonded as a cadet.
- The amount I've spent so far is roughly equal to a 230 hr CPL/IR course with FTE/Oxford/Cabair.
- I have an FAA ME CPL/IR, JAA fATPL, MCC and 757/767 TR, ultimately I'm more employable (subject to work permits) than most.
Finally, thanks for the alternative advice with respect to Jet2 and the positive vibes, ever considered being a motivational speaker?
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well all i can say is good luck with the interview, from what i can see you have thought out your strategy from the start and i want to wish you the very best of luck. keep us informed of your progress. onwards and upwards. where did you do your TR?
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Cheers mate,
Kind words (and on PPRuNe too, who would have thought it )
I did the 757 TR with Bond Aviation, if you go for it let me know, I get £100 for a recommendation
Kind words (and on PPRuNe too, who would have thought it
)I did the 757 TR with Bond Aviation, if you go for it let me know, I get £100 for a recommendation
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wilco, well it is sunday, but you are right you dont normally get a reasoned reply on pprune. i asked in bizjet forum about a sstr for bizjets ( look under bizjet type rating )and got my head taken off. but in this day and age i dont think i have any option but to go that route like you did. i too went modular but getting that first job is like asking nasa to be on the space shuttle. anyway its sunday ,its kind of sunny and you have an important day tomorrow , so relax get a good nights sleep and be yourself tomorrow. i hope they see the potential.
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Scameron, good luck
It's quite a coincidence actually, your training and reasons behind it are almost identical to mine
Except I'm waiting for a bit before taking the jump of a 75 type.
Wellington, in response to you questioning a 75 TR.........
Why do they call the A320 'a clitoris rating'? Every $&$%'s got one!!!!!
It's quite a coincidence actually, your training and reasons behind it are almost identical to mine
Except I'm waiting for a bit before taking the jump of a 75 type.
Wellington, in response to you questioning a 75 TR.........
Why do they call the A320 'a clitoris rating'? Every $&$%'s got one!!!!!
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Well DFS,
About a year ago I called Gulfstream, I spoke to the EMEA Sales Manager and posed the question if I was to get a TR which one would he suggest.
The reasons for doing so was this, oil price had doubled in the past 24 months, however the cost to extract it from the ground hadn't, consequently lots of extra cash floating about inthe Middle East, secondly, the Asian tiger economies. Both India and China are boombing, lots of new wealth.
I was advised that sales of Gulfstreams in the past year was through the roof and the orders for the year ahead were very boyant too. I was also advised that the long body, long range jets such as the 450, 500, 550 had problems with crews because of the instability of how long you'd be away from home. If the VIP says I wanna go to New York, you go to New York.
Hope that maybe helps
And if the flying doesn't work out for you, I'm sure the sofa scene will adequate recompense you, despite 0% finance for 18 months.
However we digress, anyone, anywhere, got news on Thomas Cook?
About a year ago I called Gulfstream, I spoke to the EMEA Sales Manager and posed the question if I was to get a TR which one would he suggest.
The reasons for doing so was this, oil price had doubled in the past 24 months, however the cost to extract it from the ground hadn't, consequently lots of extra cash floating about inthe Middle East, secondly, the Asian tiger economies. Both India and China are boombing, lots of new wealth.
I was advised that sales of Gulfstreams in the past year was through the roof and the orders for the year ahead were very boyant too. I was also advised that the long body, long range jets such as the 450, 500, 550 had problems with crews because of the instability of how long you'd be away from home. If the VIP says I wanna go to New York, you go to New York.
Hope that maybe helps
And if the flying doesn't work out for you, I'm sure the sofa scene will adequate recompense you, despite 0% finance for 18 months.
However we digress, anyone, anywhere, got news on Thomas Cook?