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I have stage 2 on Monday. Good scheme and all but I think TC could have at least paid for the assesment! £195 to shell out and I probably won't even get in (statistically speaking).
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Presuming you are attending, hav'nt they sent you the details?
The tests are more or less that same as the normal APP selection but according to one of the posts on the OAT forum this morning the qualifying scores are extremly high. (Higher than the normal APP requirments.)
The tests are more or less that same as the normal APP selection but according to one of the posts on the OAT forum this morning the qualifying scores are extremly high. (Higher than the normal APP requirments.)
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I dont think the qualifying scores are higher than the normal APP requirements.
If this were the case then those people applying for TCA who have already passed stage 2 at an earlier date would have a distinct advantage.
If this were the case then those people applying for TCA who have already passed stage 2 at an earlier date would have a distinct advantage.
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As stated by OAT themselves they only took something like 1/3 of the applicants who had already passed the evaluation days.
It would appear the standards have indeed been ramped up for this one. Not surprising when you have so many applicants, but certainly makes the fingernails diminish faster.
Good luck to whoever makes it!
Does anyone have any further figures on how many will be taken on by TCA? The figure quoted at OAT was something like 3%-5% of the total applicants, which were looking like they numbered around 400 or so.
As stated by OAT themselves they only took something like 1/3 of the applicants who had already passed the evaluation days.
It would appear the standards have indeed been ramped up for this one. Not surprising when you have so many applicants, but certainly makes the fingernails diminish faster.
Good luck to whoever makes it!
Does anyone have any further figures on how many will be taken on by TCA? The figure quoted at OAT was something like 3%-5% of the total applicants, which were looking like they numbered around 400 or so.
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First few hours, COMPASS test, tech test and 10FP test. For COMPASS test just concentrate and make sure your comfortable. Adjust chair so you can reach rudder pedals alright, a few of us took our shoes off as well! For the maths test work quickly, its 24 questions and is timed so if you're struggling just move on to the next one however once you've moved on you cant go back again to a previous question. Nothing too tricky, addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, basic algebra, pythagoras etc. For orientation test you'll need to read instructions a few times as it can be tricky!
tech test is just physics really, resolving forces, little bit about lift=weight, pistons, valves etc, rotating cogs and magnetism, its multiple choice which helps.
10FP, BE YOURSELF!!! 200 questions and very repetitive so try not to lie or it'll probably show.
Second day,group exercises, general discussion about yourselves then a desert island type scenario and you get to build a bridge too then interview.
try to relax, its actually not too bad, all the staff are really friendly and helpful, Mike Langley even gave us some of his crisps!!
Dont worry if you dont get through, we were told they were testing 60 of us, putting 12 forward to Thomas Cook and of the 12 Thomas Cook were taking 6!
Good luck, enjoy yourself.
tech test is just physics really, resolving forces, little bit about lift=weight, pistons, valves etc, rotating cogs and magnetism, its multiple choice which helps.
10FP, BE YOURSELF!!! 200 questions and very repetitive so try not to lie or it'll probably show.
Second day,group exercises, general discussion about yourselves then a desert island type scenario and you get to build a bridge too then interview.
try to relax, its actually not too bad, all the staff are really friendly and helpful, Mike Langley even gave us some of his crisps!!
Dont worry if you dont get through, we were told they were testing 60 of us, putting 12 forward to Thomas Cook and of the 12 Thomas Cook were taking 6!
Good luck, enjoy yourself.
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So, anyone get through to stage III?
Lasted to day two of stage II, but not good enough on the last day I think.
Anyone from Wednesday/Thursday?
Lasted to day two of stage II, but not good enough on the last day I think.
Anyone from Wednesday/Thursday?
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From the OAT website -
"We have sent 12 applicant's results to Thomas Cook Airline by courier. The airline will choose, which applicants they wish to interview. We do not know whether they will interview all 12 or not nor do we know when they will announce their final decision."
"We have sent 12 applicant's results to Thomas Cook Airline by courier. The airline will choose, which applicants they wish to interview. We do not know whether they will interview all 12 or not nor do we know when they will announce their final decision."
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...and now Excel
Is anyone who finnished day two of stage two of TCX applying for the Excel scheme? I am though I am doubtful as to whether I will fair any better this time round. If they didn't select for Thomas Cook, why should they for Excel?
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
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TCX and XL sponsorship - MATHS
Why have these two sponsors decided that applicants must have both MATHS and PHYSICS among their A-levels, not just "preferably" like all the other airlines. TCX and XL are automatically excluding a lot of candidates that would otherwise be very good - if you can pass the tests they set then who cares what A levels you have - especially if you have a degree as well - although they don't seem to consider this in the application form.
Sorry - just a general rant - guess who doesn't have maths A-level?? Have physics though - which is basically the same - but TCX/XL make it quite clear you need both. Ooo I have a degree to, but it's not in maths - and a PPL. Oh well.
Lets just hope not all future sponsorship schemes go this way.
Sorry - just a general rant - guess who doesn't have maths A-level?? Have physics though - which is basically the same - but TCX/XL make it quite clear you need both. Ooo I have a degree to, but it's not in maths - and a PPL. Oh well.
Lets just hope not all future sponsorship schemes go this way.
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The Excel application has a section for maths qualifification. If you read the application it asks for an advanced certificate standard of education (or equivalent). If your degree was science or engineering based this is where I would be pointing it out. I also have no A level maths, it was a long time ago and I was much more interested in getting laid than integration in 1986, however in 2000 I did a foundation year of maths and physics prior to entering my degree course, so I will be sending my application in.
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I'm not having a prod at you, just asking a question, but when you were ready to proceed on to 6th Form or College, didn't anyone mention to you that Maths and Physics A'Levels were essential for a career as an Airline Pilot?
I admit myself, it's a slightly backwards attitude and it's nonsense to suggest you need A' Level Maths to be able to fly a plane, but surely if you were dreaming of this career as a schoolboy you would've spoken to a career advisor, who would've told you these very things, no?
I'd apply with your subjects anyway. I'm sure other's in your situation would do so anyway.
I admit myself, it's a slightly backwards attitude and it's nonsense to suggest you need A' Level Maths to be able to fly a plane, but surely if you were dreaming of this career as a schoolboy you would've spoken to a career advisor, who would've told you these very things, no?
I'd apply with your subjects anyway. I'm sure other's in your situation would do so anyway.
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Super pilot - my careers advisor didn't help much at all. Last year, before 6th form, I went along for some help. After telling her my situation she basically said "do whatever A-levels you enjoy" and then told me to do engineering basically.
As for the carriers requring maths and physics - rubbish in my opinion. I can't take both next year as grades will go down. AAB's the target for English, physics and geography. That'll be more like BCD if i take maths, physics and English. Not a posibility for me I'm afraid. The real shame is that they'll be losing out and good pilots...
As for the carriers requring maths and physics - rubbish in my opinion. I can't take both next year as grades will go down. AAB's the target for English, physics and geography. That'll be more like BCD if i take maths, physics and English. Not a posibility for me I'm afraid. The real shame is that they'll be losing out and good pilots...