The life of an airline pilot! Is it worth it?
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as you well know,,
Passenger windows have special UV blocking glass.
Pointy end glass blocks all visible light because it is so thick but magnifies UV and gamma rays 1000-fold.
Passengers meals are doped with cancer suppressant drugs.
Airlines have suppressed the facts for years. All Concorde pilots actually died five years after service so they had to clone identical replacements otherwise the secret would be out.
Aliens abduct red-neck Americans because of their intelligence and superb physique.
Advanced civilisations can have spacecraft proceed undetectably through space at hyper speeds to crash at Roswell in order to appease the Gods.
Only beleeve stories that are tiped with errors, aliens make no mistakes.
Someone help me with how to post photogs on the site and I will post a reunion of old, unbold pilots all in excess of 60 yrs.
I presume that they are all undead.
Pointy end glass blocks all visible light because it is so thick but magnifies UV and gamma rays 1000-fold.
Passengers meals are doped with cancer suppressant drugs.
Airlines have suppressed the facts for years. All Concorde pilots actually died five years after service so they had to clone identical replacements otherwise the secret would be out.
Aliens abduct red-neck Americans because of their intelligence and superb physique.
Advanced civilisations can have spacecraft proceed undetectably through space at hyper speeds to crash at Roswell in order to appease the Gods.
Only beleeve stories that are tiped with errors, aliens make no mistakes.
Someone help me with how to post photogs on the site and I will post a reunion of old, unbold pilots all in excess of 60 yrs.
I presume that they are all undead.
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Mon Oncle was a pilot for 42 years and is still alive and kicking at 77years young. He has bad knees though and his eyes aren't what they were but he still has all his skin!
Pilots obviously spend far too much time lolling by the pool on layovers.
Air France pilots and statistics just don't add up.
Pilots obviously spend far too much time lolling by the pool on layovers.
Air France pilots and statistics just don't add up.
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Hey, zcar, it's my job to be able not only to do pointless calculations but to teach my students to do them and pass the ATPLs!
Spaceman,
So now the pilot gets 2000 times the radiation, despite the traveller flying 6-7 times a year. So the pilot must be flying 13,000 trips, averaging 250 sectors a week. Impressive.
While UV is proved to cause certain cancers, and might actually help prevent others (such as prostate cancer) it certainly also causes sunburn. Hence my surprise at the existence of white airline pilots.
Spaceman,
So now the pilot gets 2000 times the radiation, despite the traveller flying 6-7 times a year. So the pilot must be flying 13,000 trips, averaging 250 sectors a week. Impressive.
While UV is proved to cause certain cancers, and might actually help prevent others (such as prostate cancer) it certainly also causes sunburn. Hence my surprise at the existence of white airline pilots.
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Spaceman let us see some evidence for your allegations, please. It seems to me that you have heard a few rumours, decided that they're facts, embroidered them a bit - no, a lot - and concluded that all airline pilots are about to expire through various cancers.
Let me help you a little: in my airline we continuously monitor radiation exposure to pilots and cabin crew through the use of specialist monitoring equipment on one or two aeroplanes, and the extrapolation of their findings to all our crew. No crewmember is allowed to exceed the statutory raditation limits applied to all workers in at-risk fields. In fact, our results show that no crew member has reached more than (if I remember correctly) half of the maximum exposure in any given period. The crew most exposed are the Japanese national cabin crew who work exclusively on LHR-NRT flights, which fly at high latitudes (where atmospheric protection is less effective) and at high altitudes (FL380+). The vast majority of our crew, who cover a wider route structure, are way, way below the statutory limits.
Cancer is not more common among crew in our airline than in the general population. In fact, our workforce must be particularly fit and healthy as illness of any kind is lower than the general population. In my seven years in the airline, I don't believe any pilot has died of cancer, though one has been diagnosed of bowel cancer and is now in remission. I am aware of one cabin crew member who has.
These, Spaceman, are facts. Something which you patently are not familiar with, and prefer to replace with your prejudices. You, and your conspiracy theories, are far more damaging to our profession than any cancer.
Scroggs
Let me help you a little: in my airline we continuously monitor radiation exposure to pilots and cabin crew through the use of specialist monitoring equipment on one or two aeroplanes, and the extrapolation of their findings to all our crew. No crewmember is allowed to exceed the statutory raditation limits applied to all workers in at-risk fields. In fact, our results show that no crew member has reached more than (if I remember correctly) half of the maximum exposure in any given period. The crew most exposed are the Japanese national cabin crew who work exclusively on LHR-NRT flights, which fly at high latitudes (where atmospheric protection is less effective) and at high altitudes (FL380+). The vast majority of our crew, who cover a wider route structure, are way, way below the statutory limits.
Cancer is not more common among crew in our airline than in the general population. In fact, our workforce must be particularly fit and healthy as illness of any kind is lower than the general population. In my seven years in the airline, I don't believe any pilot has died of cancer, though one has been diagnosed of bowel cancer and is now in remission. I am aware of one cabin crew member who has.
These, Spaceman, are facts. Something which you patently are not familiar with, and prefer to replace with your prejudices. You, and your conspiracy theories, are far more damaging to our profession than any cancer.
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What is going on
How can a thread asking 'is being an airline pilot worth it' descend into:
WHO KNOWS THE MOST ABOUT UV RADIATION.
Stop everyone, before you require professional help.
WHO KNOWS THE MOST ABOUT UV RADIATION.
Stop everyone, before you require professional help.
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In answer to the original question, No, the life probably isnt what it used to be, what with fellas like Michael O Leary kickin the sh**e out of us, but perhaps its a case of "Good Old Days" syndrome; i.e. treasuring the past despite the fact that it really wasnt that good back then!
Think of it another way. Maybe the 707 and DC-8 pilots of the 60's that we so "admire" would really have preferred to be flying DC-3's and such.
Just a thought.
P.S Aye Aye Captain Kirk. I'm outraged that you think we need professional help. I'll have you know that my therapist thinks I'm very special.
They're watching me.......
Think of it another way. Maybe the 707 and DC-8 pilots of the 60's that we so "admire" would really have preferred to be flying DC-3's and such.
Just a thought.
P.S Aye Aye Captain Kirk. I'm outraged that you think we need professional help. I'll have you know that my therapist thinks I'm very special.
They're watching me.......
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Maybe put forward in a blunt way by spaceman, but those of you who believe that radiation exposure (and not necessarily talking UV, but cosmic radiation) is NOT having a significant impact on your health and cancer risk are fooling yourselves.
But hey, there were clever scientists wearing goggles in Arizona back in the 50s to look at atomic bombs going off nearby, to their peril.
But hey, there were clever scientists wearing goggles in Arizona back in the 50s to look at atomic bombs going off nearby, to their peril.
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.....as u can see from my nick....this is (one of )my biggest concern(S).........some cabin crew friends of mine made me notice that most of the pilots have only daughters because those radiations knock out your " Y " chromosomes from your balls......
have u got some statitistics about that??
have u got some statitistics about that??
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....as u can see from my nick....this is (one of )my biggest concern(S).........some cabin crew friends of mine made me notice that most of the pilots have only daughters because those radiations knock out your " Y " chromosomes from your balls......
have u got some statitistics about that??
have u got some statitistics about that??
MUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Life as an airline pilot? Dunno, not one.
It's taken me about 18 years to get to a jet job and I am loving it.
The other morning. 0230z show, 0330z go. Min rest too.
Starting to lighten up as we began the take off. It had been raining and there was a lot of cloud about.
Decided to hand fly the SID for fun. Accelerating through 210kts to 250kts in a climbing turn broke clear of the cloud. Got a cool sensation of speed with the cloud being so close. Wx was clear for the rest of the trip and CAVOK for the arrival.
Nice.
It's taken me about 18 years to get to a jet job and I am loving it.
The other morning. 0230z show, 0330z go. Min rest too.
Starting to lighten up as we began the take off. It had been raining and there was a lot of cloud about.
Decided to hand fly the SID for fun. Accelerating through 210kts to 250kts in a climbing turn broke clear of the cloud. Got a cool sensation of speed with the cloud being so close. Wx was clear for the rest of the trip and CAVOK for the arrival.
Nice.
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i'm 18 this year...
doing pre-u....
.. planing to enter flight school next year.....
dunno.. after all that have been said,
i still think flying is worth it.. because i love flying.........
doing pre-u....
.. planing to enter flight school next year.....
dunno.. after all that have been said,
i still think flying is worth it.. because i love flying.........
PPRuNe Handmaiden
James,
Note I said I am not an airline pilot.
It's taken 18 years and a variety of jobs/locations to get there.
Part time instructing.
Bush flying.
Coastwatch flying.
Regional airline flying (Outback Oz)
Regional airline flying (Sydney)
Night freight. UK
Blown attempt to get into easyJet.
Corporate airline at last.
It's only now after 18 years of battling and shifting locations that I am finally earning decent money. Only one job in Oz did I earn near the national wage.
My last flying job in the UK I didn't earn any where near the national wage.
It's now worth it only because I am still a pilot. Not an autopilot operator. That's something to keep in mind.
Yep, that view was particularly stunning, I would have got a photo of it but I was busy. I can tell you the beers tasted mighty fine that night, so did the news that our show was at 0900z
Note I said I am not an airline pilot.
It's taken 18 years and a variety of jobs/locations to get there.
Part time instructing.
Bush flying.
Coastwatch flying.
Regional airline flying (Outback Oz)
Regional airline flying (Sydney)
Night freight. UK
Blown attempt to get into easyJet.
Corporate airline at last.
It's only now after 18 years of battling and shifting locations that I am finally earning decent money. Only one job in Oz did I earn near the national wage.
My last flying job in the UK I didn't earn any where near the national wage.
It's now worth it only because I am still a pilot. Not an autopilot operator. That's something to keep in mind.
Yep, that view was particularly stunning, I would have got a photo of it but I was busy. I can tell you the beers tasted mighty fine that night, so did the news that our show was at 0900z
