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Old 7th Jan 2005, 16:19
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Thumbs up ***new Pprune Cadet Type Rating Course***

Good news and bad news...

First the good news:

PPRuNe are happy to announce another cadet type rating scheme in conjunction with Astraeus. Four successful candidates will be type rated on the Boeing 757, line trained and will gain valuable line experience flying the many and varied routes that Astraeus fly to.

Minimum requirements are that applicants hold a UK CAA or JAR fATPL. Successful candidates will have to put up £3000 which will be held by the PPRuNe Fund Cadet Scheme Account and paid back to them over the six months of the contract. They will also receive Flight Duty pay plus £500 a month towards living expenses from the PPRuNe Fund.

After the six month period, the cadets should have approximately 300-400 hours on type. Subject to mutual agreement between the cadet and Astraeus a permanent contract will be offered. Should Astraeus decide that they cannot offer a permanent contract then the cadet would be free to take their type rating and experience elsewhere with no further obligation to Astraeus.

As with the previous PPRuNe/Astraeus cadet type rating scheme, the PPRuNe fund would like the opportunity for the successful cadets to put back into the fund so that others may benefit from future schemes. Cadets would be expected to enter into an agreement that once they have successfully gained permanent employment as a pilot with their type rating they would repay to the PPRuNe fund at a rate of £100 a month the sum of £5000.

The bad news:

Successful candidates have to be able to start the ground school on the 21st January 2005.

That's it!

As it is such short notice, I require anyone applying for assessment to hold a valid UK CAA or JAA fATPL and be able to confirm that should they be successful that they could start a full time B757 type rating course on the 21st January 2005. Also, they must confirm that they are able to deposit £3000 into the escrow account which would be repaid to them at £500 per month.

Assessment for cadets will take place in the LGW area on 15th January where 8 candidates will be selected for simulator assessment. Four successful candidates will be offered the B757 type rating course and temporary contract employment with Astraeus. Date for the simulator assessment will be notified.

Time is of the essence and because of the short notice we understand that many of you will not be eligible to apply. Those of you who are in a position to apply please email me at [email protected] with the following information:

Name, address, age.
Total flight hours.
A very brief summary of your experience and background.


Nothing more is required at this stage and due to pressure of work and other commitments I cannot enter into dialogue. Please be patient and bear with me.

To avoid the inevitable harranguing that some posters feel they have to get off their chests, no money has to be put up by anyone except the final four successful candidates after their course has started. For information on the previous PPRuNe/Astraeus Cadet TYpe Rating Scheme please use the search functions of this website.
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Old 7th Jan 2005, 17:41
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Danny,

Congratulations once again Very good news indeed, something that the industry needs and good luck to all that will be applying.

These opportunities are rare so let's make the most of it.

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Old 7th Jan 2005, 22:46
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This is a superb and unique opportunity for four aspiring FO’s to achieve their ambitions of becoming flight crew. Many people including InFinRetirement, Hamrah and Capt. PPRuNe have worked very hard to provide these opportunities for PPRuNers and I for one hope that these truly genuine opportunities are taken up in the spirit in which they are offered. It is worth bearing in mind that many wannabees will never achieve their ambitions of becoming commercial pilots in spite of obtaining FATPL’s. The road to the flight deck is more difficult than many PPRuNers ever imagine in their worst nightmares. Four of you WILL win a unique opportunity. It is simply an opportunity for employment in the industry which you aspire to, accept it for what it is and go for it!

I know that InFinRetirement especially has put an awful lot of work over a number of years into getting the PPRuNe fund up and running. It is a genuine fund, independent of Ashtraysareus and which is intended to enable PPRuNers to achieve a foothold on the ladder to the left hand seat.
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Great opportunity! The best of luck to those fortunate enough to be in a position to apply. The folks that set this up deserve credit for their hard work, a genuine effort to pull some PPRuNer`s on board!
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I was one of the original 5 cadets and I absolutely recommend this scheme.

I remember reading an advert such as this one three years ago and settling down to write the loooong application form, it took me about five hours as I recall. I had a friend staying for a few days; him and my wife kept moaning and asking when I would be finished so we could go out for a few beers. One step led to the next and suddenly I was facing the sim in a weeks time. I was soo penniless I could not afford any sim time to practice. I trotted off to WHsmith and bought a copy of MS FS 2002 and a top notch joystick. I could not afford even this modest outlay so I told the cashier "is for my nephew, can I return it if his computer is not powerful enough to run it?" I put in 8 hours everyday flying the profile we where given out of Manchester. It was bloody hard at first with the tiny EADI and the oversensitive joystick but practice makes perfect. When I sat at the sim it was almost easy compared to the one at home. At least the screens where much bigger and the controls had more feel.

The day after the sim I had a lost call on my phone. I called the number with trepidation and spoke to Mrs Hamrah then to Hamrah himself. I cracked it, the chance was mine to take. I must admit it has been hard at times but above all great fun. The learning curve almost vertical at times, the people great, the destinations varied and challenging. It was a great opportunity and so if you are, like I was, wondering where to go with your few hundred hours and FATPL. Get stuck in, tell your mates to wait, tell your girlfriend you will be a while yet and get stuck into that application form. It worked for me...

BTW I did go back to WHsmith and told them that, sadly, my nephews computer was only a 486 with 1mb of ram so the sim did not run. They where very understanding. I always buy my magazines from them now.
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Old 8th Jan 2005, 06:57
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PPrune is to be congratulated and saluted for such a great opportunity.

Not an age restriction in sight!

Perhaps next time for me. I will be qualified in June.
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calypso

Congratulations, but .....

I wonder if the other 'penniless' candidates you beat in the competition - or potential employers - will admire you for your initiative in successfully cheating WHS, or just have doubts about your honesty and integrity.

You clearly think the end justified the means because you got one of the cadetships, and may think I'm being harsh and old-fashioned, but professional pilots are expected to have honesty and integrity as well as good flying skills.

Behaving dishonestly is never good, but boasting about it on a public forum when you were one of only five cadets, and could easily be identified from your previous posts on PPRuNe, shows a serious lack of judgment.


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Danny, Hamrah and Co......... THANKS !!!

I've been a long campaigner for a repeat of this scheme and i'm really pleased that this will happen again........writing my short piece as we speak !!!

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Old 8th Jan 2005, 15:30
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Do you need an MCC to be eligible or is it included in the TR course ?

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Heliport, you're being a tad oversensitive.

I don't feel Calypso was bragging about 'cheating' WH Smith. On the contrary, his post was quite touching, and spelt out the lengths that the truly committed will go to in order to reach their dreams. How different is this to someone who's broke but desperate but for a new job buying a new suit, only to take it back after the interview, just so that they can look the part on the day? Shows initiative if you ask me.

If I was penniless after shelling out fifty grand on an ATPL and all that came between me and a career was a lousy free copy of FS2002 then I'd do whatever it took. You do realise that WH Smith would have simply repackaged the game and sold it to someone else?

Desperate times, desperate measures old chap. I don't think the fraud squad will be banging on Calypso's door anytime soon.

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Old 8th Jan 2005, 16:02
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Helyport,

I little harsh I think, in any case this thread is not about your moral righteousness (we all know you are above reproach) or my sin of returning a CD at WHS (who knows, one day I may even browse a magazine and not buy it). It is about the PPrune Cadet scheme. Far from boasting I was illustrating the point that people will find obstacles and problems and it is important to try to overcome them. You imply that I got ahead of other candidates by returning the CD, that is fuzzy logic. Surely the point is that I got ahead because of the hours of practice I put in.

So back to the thread. This is a very good scheme. I recommend it from experience. Time is short, neither Hamrah nor Danny nor anybody else will come to your house and offer you a job. It is up to you get it and this an excellent opportunity.

C

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Old 8th Jan 2005, 16:28
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Heliport you are sad!
Good on the guy for getting off his ass and succeeding.
I took years of perseverence and now fly the "queen of the skies".
I also get copy software from HKG and delight in ripping off Mr Gates.
So there, stick that in your trumpet.
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Old 8th Jan 2005, 17:15
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I was also one of the five cadets three years ago. It gave nme a great opportunity and to date a really good career.

It is great news that this scheme is back, all the best to everyone who is going for it, be yourselves and enjoy the experience, flying with Astraeus is a real laugh, wierd destinations and lots of variety.
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Hello,

I've already E-mailed the details required a few days back, however I was wondering if anyone could tell me when the chosen few will be informed?

Just bearing in mind that the selections in Gatwick will be on the 15th!!!geez

Cheers
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Old 9th Jan 2005, 22:50
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We will only accept applications up to 1900 UTC on Monday 10th January 2005. Anyone sending after that time will not be eligible for consideration.

Applicants will be informed later tomorrow night whether they have been successful. A reminder that the assessment day will be on Saturday 15th January 2005. We will be inviting 25 applicants to the assessment day and we will be selecting 10 to undergo a simulator assessment, probably on the B737 sim some time during the week following the assessment. We have decided to increase the number of sim assessments from 8 to 10. The final four cadets will be chosen after the sim assessment to begin ground school on the 21st January 2005.

Please remember to let anyone you know who would be elligible and availabe to post send me their email by 1900 UTC tomorrow. Anyone who is not eligible, ie. does not hold a valid UK CAA or JAR fATPL or Class One medical, should not send their details as they will not be considered.

At the time of this post I have received 168 valid applications. They have been sent from 12 different countries. Please remember to keep the email short and to the point. Read the first post in this thread to see what I am asking for. Some people are attaching CV's. If you are going to attach a CV, please do a bit of research on what information is important and what isn't and rearrange it as necessary. There are plenty of posts that are searchable on here with excellent advice.

Thank you to everyone who has applied so far.
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Old 10th Jan 2005, 17:13
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***UPDATE***

With less than an hour to go to the cut off time, I can confirm that we have had over 300 applicants. Successful applicants will be invited for the assessment day on Saturday 15th January.

Also, I have just had confirmed that we will be able to assess 14 candidates at the British Airways simulator at Cranebank, Heathrow on Monday and Tuesday the 17th and 18th of January. We have two six hour sessions available and I'm grateful to Hamrah that we will be able to give even more of you a chance to experience first hand the selection process.

So, to recap; We will be inviting 25 of you for an assessment day on Saturday 15th January and out of those 25 we will be selecting 14 of you for a simulator assessment on either Monday 17th or Tuesday 18th January. The four successful cadets will be starting B757 ground school on the 21st January. Good luck.
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Old 10th Jan 2005, 20:37
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cadet scheme

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can you check your pm's?

thanks

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Old 10th Jan 2005, 21:11
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O man the suspense is KILLING me, Have people being informed yet????? will we all know by tonight? I keep running to the computer to check. Reminds me of ground results day.
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Old 10th Jan 2005, 21:16
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biminiflyer does this mean you are on for saturday or are you also tyring to find out if the results have gone out too
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please sir! please sir!!!!

....you sure hit the nail on the head about groundschool (hog) day!!!

killing isnt it???
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