Are you looking for an airline Job, come here...
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Are you looking for an airline Job, come here...
I tell you this whole business sucks. Money poured down the drain, were it could have been invested in far more better things. Aviation sucks guys, I have an ATPL with 2400 hrs total time, did an approved course because at the time they said, " all airlines like to see someone that has done an approved course" well it is rubbish....I am so sad that I have wasted a good 10 yrs in of my life which will never come back again! running after being a glorified bus driver!!!!, I could have become a real bus driver with national express or something and just be contempt with my salary, and I would still be responisble of 150 people or so and wearing a uniform!!!..
Promot this " PROFESSIONAL PILOT JOBS SUCKS" people have to realise this and STOP parting away with their hard earned money.
It is a waste of time guys......a lot of heart ache, a lot of money, and sometimes can get in your own personal married life if you are married.
Promot this " PROFESSIONAL PILOT JOBS SUCKS" people have to realise this and STOP parting away with their hard earned money.
It is a waste of time guys......a lot of heart ache, a lot of money, and sometimes can get in your own personal married life if you are married.
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Dear Superman 32,
If this post is a reflection of :-
1) Your attitude towards the profession
2) Your ability to communicate in a clear and precise manner
3) Your knowledge of the english language
Then I have to say it is hardly surprising that you have not been successful in getting employment.
This industry doesn't owe you a living.
The site your are looking for is
here.
If this post is a reflection of :-
1) Your attitude towards the profession
2) Your ability to communicate in a clear and precise manner
3) Your knowledge of the english language
Then I have to say it is hardly surprising that you have not been successful in getting employment.
This industry doesn't owe you a living.
The site your are looking for is
here.
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at least i can speak english albeit not my mother tongue, what kind of career is this where as the saying go " it is not what you know, but who you know" . it is simple,
IF YOU ARE:-
1. professional
2. of good character
3. have a stable mind
4. willing to offer the best of 20-30 yrs of your life serving an airline company
then you should get the job....SIMPLE!!! why all the hastle...
it is all about show offs :- nice uniform and beautiful cabin crew women!
hahahahahahaha........what a frigging joke guys....
it is and always will be a catch 22 situation.
....get us a flying license.......
....oh, have you done an approved course of training?....
....do a type rating and then apply.........
..... oh, have you got 500 hrs on type?......
......oh good you have the type rating you have done an approved course AND you got all the licenses....NOW...how old are you?
and it goes on and on and on and on......
it is simple...STOP!!!!
IF YOU ARE:-
1. professional
2. of good character
3. have a stable mind
4. willing to offer the best of 20-30 yrs of your life serving an airline company
then you should get the job....SIMPLE!!! why all the hastle...
it is all about show offs :- nice uniform and beautiful cabin crew women!
hahahahahahaha........what a frigging joke guys....
it is and always will be a catch 22 situation.
....get us a flying license.......
....oh, have you done an approved course of training?....
....do a type rating and then apply.........
..... oh, have you got 500 hrs on type?......
......oh good you have the type rating you have done an approved course AND you got all the licenses....NOW...how old are you?
and it goes on and on and on and on......
it is simple...STOP!!!!
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For more of superman/ronchonner/skyman/seigneur/unculee/trouduc's tales of heartbreak and woe and doing valiant battle against the evil forces that conspire to rob him of the job he so rightfully deserves 
take a look at
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=6761
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=5557
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=5532
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http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137797
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=123940
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=122808
take a look athttp://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=6761
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=5557
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...&threadid=5532
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=141127
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137938
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137797
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=123940
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=122808
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I find no 3 on your list a bit strange.
His knowledge of english grammar has nada to do with this at all, and neither does mine. There is quite a few of us at pprune who are non native englishspeakers so please, stop slagging someone of for his/her grammar.
I find no 3 on your list a bit strange.
His knowledge of english grammar has nada to do with this at all, and neither does mine. There is quite a few of us at pprune who are non native englishspeakers so please, stop slagging someone of for his/her grammar.
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Well if we all stopped then there would be a REAL pilot shortage 
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I have to agree with this, constant bashing about other peoples specially non english natives grammar, unfortunately to those with high levels on intellectual capacity who think they are gods gift to aviation and so perfect, nothing can be done, so let them whinge and ignore them, thats what i do. ( not this case )
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There is quite a few of us at pprune who are non native englishspeakers so please, stop slagging someone of for his/her grammar.
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Would you prefer to sweep roads or sell used cars for a living.
You are in a job that most non-pilot people would kill for.
Whatever downhill slide you are in, sort it before you end up a bitter, emotional wreck.
Oh, amd please let us know what airline you work for. I assume there will be a sapre F/O job coming up.
If that does't help, try veuve cliquot champagne. It's grapes are crushed against the breasts of virgins and sorts out any problems.
I typed the above in a hurry. No comments about spelling please, it\'s rarely funny
You are in a job that most non-pilot people would kill for.
Whatever downhill slide you are in, sort it before you end up a bitter, emotional wreck.
Oh, amd please let us know what airline you work for. I assume there will be a sapre F/O job coming up.
If that does't help, try veuve cliquot champagne. It's grapes are crushed against the breasts of virgins and sorts out any problems.
I typed the above in a hurry. No comments about spelling please, it\'s rarely funny
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Dep Chief PPRuNe Pilot thank you for your comment, and it is true it is my frustration and anger of the situation.
I have tried to get a type rating, but money is short.
As for the sarcastic comment made by one of you regarding " what airline you are working for at the moment coz I feel there will be a free F/O post soon"...If I was working for an airline I would not even be here today making a point or comment!!!! so who is the stupid one now?
Dep Chief PPRuNe Pilot thank you for your comment, and it is true it is my frustration and anger of the situation.
I have tried to get a type rating, but money is short.
As for the sarcastic comment made by one of you regarding " what airline you are working for at the moment coz I feel there will be a free F/O post soon"...If I was working for an airline I would not even be here today making a point or comment!!!! so who is the stupid one now?
superman_32, my advice - NEVER give up - easy to say I know but when I look at my aviation career (or lack of it) over the last few years I could sit down and cry but I made a decision that I would make the best of a bad job and not the worst. Are there challenges ?- yes there always are but do NOT give up on your dreams.
It is very often that when you are at the point of giving up that success is just around the corner and, I believe, that it is who you become on the way to your dreams that really makes the difference.
See things how they are but NOT worse than they are and develop some sort of plan. It's no good heading east if you are looking for a sunset.
Remember that "Why to" is more important than "How to". If you have a big enough Why you can do anything and remember that mountains DO move - one rock at a time!
Good Luck!
It is very often that when you are at the point of giving up that success is just around the corner and, I believe, that it is who you become on the way to your dreams that really makes the difference.
See things how they are but NOT worse than they are and develop some sort of plan. It's no good heading east if you are looking for a sunset.
Remember that "Why to" is more important than "How to". If you have a big enough Why you can do anything and remember that mountains DO move - one rock at a time!
Good Luck!
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Superman,
Has it actually been all doom and gloom. Over the past few years have you been invited for interviews or assesments.
How did you feel on the day. You have to consider whether you can approve on anything. Even basic things like appearance on the day is vital.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Many of the regional airlines actually don't mind older people, cos these are the guys who are likely to stay. These are the guys who are looking at quality of life rather than the size of a/c.
Good luck and try and keep at it
Has it actually been all doom and gloom. Over the past few years have you been invited for interviews or assesments.
How did you feel on the day. You have to consider whether you can approve on anything. Even basic things like appearance on the day is vital.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Many of the regional airlines actually don't mind older people, cos these are the guys who are likely to stay. These are the guys who are looking at quality of life rather than the size of a/c.
Good luck and try and keep at it
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Superman,
I was like you a year ago..2500 hrs on Metroliners/1900,single pilot/NO AP,a fresh type on 737 for my FAA to JAA ATPL conversion...but no jobs insight..8 months after type and first pass in a all ATPL subjects at Oxford,I was unemployed and still couldnt get work as a ticket counter.
This business is hard..long and not that glamorous..but the joy to fly will always be there..and the day coffee kicks in at 37000ft above the alps on a nice clear early morning..youll look at those shiny wings and say to yourself ..it was all worth it..
You have some experience hence you paid your dues in some ways..
All that to tell you,the hard time you are living now can only make you a more humble person,someone who,when he gets his first jet job doesnt walk with the chin up on top of his 250 hours and fresh frozen Atpl..
The longer you have to wait the higher the pride and happiness to finally have made it.
Your time will come, it has to.
Good luck,
M.85
I was like you a year ago..2500 hrs on Metroliners/1900,single pilot/NO AP,a fresh type on 737 for my FAA to JAA ATPL conversion...but no jobs insight..8 months after type and first pass in a all ATPL subjects at Oxford,I was unemployed and still couldnt get work as a ticket counter.
This business is hard..long and not that glamorous..but the joy to fly will always be there..and the day coffee kicks in at 37000ft above the alps on a nice clear early morning..youll look at those shiny wings and say to yourself ..it was all worth it..
You have some experience hence you paid your dues in some ways..
All that to tell you,the hard time you are living now can only make you a more humble person,someone who,when he gets his first jet job doesnt walk with the chin up on top of his 250 hours and fresh frozen Atpl..
The longer you have to wait the higher the pride and happiness to finally have made it.
Your time will come, it has to.
Good luck,
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I agree, this business really suck from everywhere.
guys telling you are wrong, are wannabe pilots with 50 hours who do not know anything about this #$% market and who believe their flight school that a shortage of pilots is coming. ah ah ah!!! in your dream!
you and me, we know that since at least 10 years.for me it is 12 years!
My ex flight instructors (who lost their job years ago) told me the same thing, to not believe about this pilot'shortage.
But at this time I was 10 years younger and very very stupid. then I have decided to fork a fortune to become an airline pilot regardless of my Instructor recommendations and now I have no money in my wallet and the only person who contact me are schools trying to sell me this and this #%$# useless training.(orientation jet course, how to apply to an airline, seminar how to write a CV, how to cut your hair, what kind of soap you must use,...,...)
guys telling you are wrong, are wannabe pilots with 50 hours who do not know anything about this #$% market and who believe their flight school that a shortage of pilots is coming. ah ah ah!!! in your dream!
you and me, we know that since at least 10 years.for me it is 12 years!
My ex flight instructors (who lost their job years ago) told me the same thing, to not believe about this pilot'shortage.
But at this time I was 10 years younger and very very stupid. then I have decided to fork a fortune to become an airline pilot regardless of my Instructor recommendations and now I have no money in my wallet and the only person who contact me are schools trying to sell me this and this #%$# useless training.(orientation jet course, how to apply to an airline, seminar how to write a CV, how to cut your hair, what kind of soap you must use,...,...)