Once Ive gained a 737 TR
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Once Ive gained a 737 TR
hey there,
well I finished not long ago my TR and Ive been sending like mad to all airlines, recruitment agencies, etc. Im low houred and have just the base check of the type. My friends, people who have joined the same scheme, have any of you found anything, is there any airline gettin low houred ones like us with TR?
I knew my chances whernt amazing before I started but Ive been sending since ages and nothing going on not only in europe but all around this planet that we inhabit.
Id kindly like to hear your opinions and advices,
thanks and softbutter landings to all,
well I finished not long ago my TR and Ive been sending like mad to all airlines, recruitment agencies, etc. Im low houred and have just the base check of the type. My friends, people who have joined the same scheme, have any of you found anything, is there any airline gettin low houred ones like us with TR?
I knew my chances whernt amazing before I started but Ive been sending since ages and nothing going on not only in europe but all around this planet that we inhabit.
Id kindly like to hear your opinions and advices,
thanks and softbutter landings to all,
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Yep, don't worry. It won't be long before you get the desired phone call. I suspect you won't even need to attend an interview. If only more people had the where-with-all.
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OH DEAR!!!!
Blue Falcon, go here www.pittraining.co.uk without delay; its the best £140 you are ever likely to spend.
Blue Falcon, go here www.pittraining.co.uk without delay; its the best £140 you are ever likely to spend.
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...hear NASA is looking for people to do their SSTR course.
what about emailing virgin galactic as i dont think to many will have that rating yet, they may also have a SSTR scheme.
could be worth a look.
what about emailing virgin galactic as i dont think to many will have that rating yet, they may also have a SSTR scheme.
could be worth a look.
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He hehehehe
previous posts made me chuckle. Surely there is no need to buy any rating at the mo? .... I've been looking for my first airline job for just over a year ..... and got offered two in a space of a week!
Both were with carriers who value their staff and fund their training.
Hope the gamble works for you.
good luck.
previous posts made me chuckle. Surely there is no need to buy any rating at the mo? .... I've been looking for my first airline job for just over a year ..... and got offered two in a space of a week!
Both were with carriers who value their staff and fund their training.
Hope the gamble works for you.
good luck.
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Im impressed of how you all take it , the fact is that if you wouldnt even be considering of self funding your own TR I cant honestly know why you´ve opened up this thread. Anyways this was for the many people that have actually done it, fact is that more and more airline and recruitment companies are offering it, and thats cuz people are actually paying for it,
Ive been a wannabe for nearly 2 years, attended 2 airline interviews and no luck, its as hard as we all know, and persistance and will to get a job is somethin well known by me.
this is a move that sooner or later you will be considering and if not youll end up paying anyways when Brittania, easy, ryan, go and many more accept you with the condition of SSTR.
So people who´s gone through this, what have you outcomed out of it?,
Many softbutter landings,
Ive been a wannabe for nearly 2 years, attended 2 airline interviews and no luck, its as hard as we all know, and persistance and will to get a job is somethin well known by me.
this is a move that sooner or later you will be considering and if not youll end up paying anyways when Brittania, easy, ryan, go and many more accept you with the condition of SSTR.
So people who´s gone through this, what have you outcomed out of it?,
Many softbutter landings,
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Thats the problem, you can buy a type rating but you can not buy a sense of humour/personality. All these airlines that hire self funded type rated pilots may reduce their training costs, but are they getting the right person for the company? As some Chief Pilots say one of the criteria for hiring someone is 'can I sit next to him/her for six hours and then have a beer/ coffee'
And no that is not my post in the Far East forum asking about the self funded air Asia type rating deal !
And no that is not my post in the Far East forum asking about the self funded air Asia type rating deal !
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To pipo the smart clown,
I understand you wrote in the "I will not pay for a T/R thread":
"I once bought with my stupid head an EMB-120 typerating for the price of 45000 Euro's".
No more comments, about that. What I payed didnt even get to half of what you payed and if I did go for that is cuz a 73 TR gives you higher chances than the EMB120, Its a risk like all, you took it also, but the fact is that many people have done that also and found a job. This is for the rest of all, As far as Im concerned, aviation is not and wont be what we intend it to be, why do you have to pay for your instructor course, if a training school would need you as an instructor, shouldnt they be paying for it, thats another principle of "I wont pay to get a job" and theres even more, why do loads of us go to the US to build hours and pay 1000´s of bucks. What is the end of all that= getting a job.
Some things look worst that others, but it the end it comes out to be the same= be more qualified, have a better resume, etc.
You are all aware that we are far more in the street than needed in a cockpit, then of course this is like a race, a struggle, I don´t have time to waste and I prefered doing this cus going to the Us and having gotten my instructor lic. would have ended in the same money spent and in the same situation as I am now.
with no turbine hours you dont go anywhere. Maybe theres an airline or two once a year that do appreciate the old times of when they used to hire non experienced and pay for their T/R but thats for most of us a Myth, we hear about it in this forum, but the actual ones that get in are in the end a very little number, not to mention that they could also have contacts in the airline.
We are not contemplating something that now a days they only want to reduce costs in training etc, but in a way thanks to that its easier, cheaper to fly and hence theres more pilots needed, the only problem is that theres too many qualified pilots out there, and now that this is starting to move its when its time to do something.
I do think like most that we should get everythig paid, and ive been like this for nearly 2 years untill ive realised what there actually is.Im not saying that this is the correct move to make, but its from what some other people have experienced, there only chance, lets see what happens.
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I understand you wrote in the "I will not pay for a T/R thread":
"I once bought with my stupid head an EMB-120 typerating for the price of 45000 Euro's".
No more comments, about that. What I payed didnt even get to half of what you payed and if I did go for that is cuz a 73 TR gives you higher chances than the EMB120, Its a risk like all, you took it also, but the fact is that many people have done that also and found a job. This is for the rest of all, As far as Im concerned, aviation is not and wont be what we intend it to be, why do you have to pay for your instructor course, if a training school would need you as an instructor, shouldnt they be paying for it, thats another principle of "I wont pay to get a job" and theres even more, why do loads of us go to the US to build hours and pay 1000´s of bucks. What is the end of all that= getting a job.
Some things look worst that others, but it the end it comes out to be the same= be more qualified, have a better resume, etc.
You are all aware that we are far more in the street than needed in a cockpit, then of course this is like a race, a struggle, I don´t have time to waste and I prefered doing this cus going to the Us and having gotten my instructor lic. would have ended in the same money spent and in the same situation as I am now.
with no turbine hours you dont go anywhere. Maybe theres an airline or two once a year that do appreciate the old times of when they used to hire non experienced and pay for their T/R but thats for most of us a Myth, we hear about it in this forum, but the actual ones that get in are in the end a very little number, not to mention that they could also have contacts in the airline.
We are not contemplating something that now a days they only want to reduce costs in training etc, but in a way thanks to that its easier, cheaper to fly and hence theres more pilots needed, the only problem is that theres too many qualified pilots out there, and now that this is starting to move its when its time to do something.
I do think like most that we should get everythig paid, and ive been like this for nearly 2 years untill ive realised what there actually is.Im not saying that this is the correct move to make, but its from what some other people have experienced, there only chance, lets see what happens.
Softbutter landings to all
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A very well thought our argument, Bluefalcon, I wish you the very best of luck in securing a job. Nobody wishes to pay for a Type rating, but you will pay for one, one way or the other (bonding for example). All we ever hear on this forum is from people who slate everyone who even considers doing a type rating.
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Have a lok in this site and good luck
http://www.airasia.com/general.php?p...s/copilot&l=en
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I never said I was smart and I indeed, stupid enough, bought an useless typerating and now I am gaining weight (mass) and my T.V. is making overtime.
When I did this, a paid job was offered before I paid this money.
The only thing I can say is that my EMB120 T.R. finally paid back with the last job I have had. (9 months ago)
I only want to spent money on T.R.'s when a paid job (with all the normall benefits) is offered on forehand. I personnaly would go for a TRSS thingy in fashion by the many companies in the U.K..
Without any securety a T.R. alone would not help because a company wants you to stay with them for a stable workforce.
If there is no bonding you can jump ship any time and that is what they don't like.
Also the flavour of your T.R. is important I believe.
I am now 37 years old with a full ATPL (1850 hrs and command EMB120) without work. I also am not lucky with finding a normal flying job and if I want I can do a T.R..
I am not smart, can only fly planes, but refuse to make the same misstake twice.
What is the general opinion about the Brookfield setup ?
Is it technically a job?
Cheers to all.
When I did this, a paid job was offered before I paid this money.
The only thing I can say is that my EMB120 T.R. finally paid back with the last job I have had. (9 months ago)
I only want to spent money on T.R.'s when a paid job (with all the normall benefits) is offered on forehand. I personnaly would go for a TRSS thingy in fashion by the many companies in the U.K..
Without any securety a T.R. alone would not help because a company wants you to stay with them for a stable workforce.
If there is no bonding you can jump ship any time and that is what they don't like.
Also the flavour of your T.R. is important I believe.
I am now 37 years old with a full ATPL (1850 hrs and command EMB120) without work. I also am not lucky with finding a normal flying job and if I want I can do a T.R..
I am not smart, can only fly planes, but refuse to make the same misstake twice.
What is the general opinion about the Brookfield setup ?
Is it technically a job?
Cheers to all.
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How is bonding paying for your own type rating? When bonded, the company pays for the type rating, you just have to stick around for a while.
Nobody wishes to pay for a Type rating, but you will pay for one, one way or the other (bonding for example).
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To me it would be no problem at all. It would be even better than a SSTR because when the company goes bankrupt (in my ''career'' it happened 3 times) you don't have the problem of the aftermath (your bonding is than cut).
If I was hired by an airline with only bonding, I wil grow to be a real ''company'' man (if the pay is right).
But if you have another type of bonding, like borrowing 32000 euro's, and a part is subtracted from your salary (to pay back the T.R., say over 5 years), you are in trouble when the company seizes. The leftover of the loan is then your responsebility.
I would go for a SSTR but only with a strong company that is in financial good health.
Excuse my english, cheers to all.
If I was hired by an airline with only bonding, I wil grow to be a real ''company'' man (if the pay is right).
But if you have another type of bonding, like borrowing 32000 euro's, and a part is subtracted from your salary (to pay back the T.R., say over 5 years), you are in trouble when the company seizes. The leftover of the loan is then your responsebility.
I would go for a SSTR but only with a strong company that is in financial good health.
Excuse my english, cheers to all.
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Thanks nopoal, and to all, and no hard feelings pipo,we are all stuck in a way or other, and I do wish you luck, try maybe with carriers in Brazil, they have a lot of Emb120 operators.
Air Asia is something very discussed in this forum, but are they actually hiring europeans with little experience? cuz i heard that theyre looking more for indonesians, indians and people from around that area,their govts have some kind of agreements there. The only way to get in from what im aware is through line training companies that again is by us paying.
Ive tried there before and aft the TR, and no response. Whats with the eastern european market and their low cost carriers, tried also there but not much hiring at the moment, any other news from low cost carriers around the globe?
softbutter landings,
Air Asia is something very discussed in this forum, but are they actually hiring europeans with little experience? cuz i heard that theyre looking more for indonesians, indians and people from around that area,their govts have some kind of agreements there. The only way to get in from what im aware is through line training companies that again is by us paying.
Ive tried there before and aft the TR, and no response. Whats with the eastern european market and their low cost carriers, tried also there but not much hiring at the moment, any other news from low cost carriers around the globe?
softbutter landings,