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OUASrules!,
I will be at Stage 2. As far as I can ascertain it will be Maths and Physics A/S level questions without a calculator. I'm practicing long division and multiplication this evening!
I did start the CTC sponsorship application but only did the very initial internet only bit. I was asked to submit the questions but havn't as yet. I did the RAF Flying Sholarship, an Air League Flying Scholarship.
I recommend the Air League Scholarships and Bursaries to everyone.
If anyone else has an insight as to the content of stage 2 I'd be interested to hear from you.
Regards,
M
I will be at Stage 2. As far as I can ascertain it will be Maths and Physics A/S level questions without a calculator. I'm practicing long division and multiplication this evening!
I did start the CTC sponsorship application but only did the very initial internet only bit. I was asked to submit the questions but havn't as yet. I did the RAF Flying Sholarship, an Air League Flying Scholarship.
I recommend the Air League Scholarships and Bursaries to everyone.
If anyone else has an insight as to the content of stage 2 I'd be interested to hear from you.
Regards,
M
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I too applied to CTC earlier this year, got through to stage 3 but cocked it up there and got no further. They did 'hint' that they may call me back to do it again tho as i did quite well at stage 2. so fingers crossed for either CTC or flybe - both would be awesome!
Just a quick Q: seeing as you did A-level maths/physics, what sort of things do you think they will test at stage 2 without the use of calculator? Sine, cosine, tan etc? I guess basics such as speed/distance /time, fuel burn will be useful to refresh on, therefore long x and / would be good!
Good luck with it all. I would recommend CTC - give it a go as well.
Cheers
I too applied to CTC earlier this year, got through to stage 3 but cocked it up there and got no further. They did 'hint' that they may call me back to do it again tho as i did quite well at stage 2. so fingers crossed for either CTC or flybe - both would be awesome!
Just a quick Q: seeing as you did A-level maths/physics, what sort of things do you think they will test at stage 2 without the use of calculator? Sine, cosine, tan etc? I guess basics such as speed/distance /time, fuel burn will be useful to refresh on, therefore long x and / would be good!
Good luck with it all. I would recommend CTC - give it a go as well.
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OUASrules!,
I didn't do A-Level, I did Scottish Higher and Advanced Higher (Formally CSYS). We had a calculator paper and a non-calculator paper do do. I'm concentrating my studies on algebra, vectors, matrices, object areas etc.
M
I didn't do A-Level, I did Scottish Higher and Advanced Higher (Formally CSYS). We had a calculator paper and a non-calculator paper do do. I'm concentrating my studies on algebra, vectors, matrices, object areas etc.
M
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Just got the "thanks but no thanks" letter. I'm not too surprised as they will have my results from last year on hand I would assume. Ah well. I'll have to pursue other means.
Good luck to everyone else
Good luck to everyone else
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Hey kids
Another one bites the dust.
After 8 years of trying, it's now game over for me. I am now officially too old for any of the other sponsorships and this was my last shot. Goes to show that even with an acceptance letter from BA nailed to the front of your application, it's still a lottery where you can be outnumbered and out-gunned at every turn. At some point you have to accept that an 18 year old is a much more attractive prospect than a 27 (nearly 28) year old, whatever experience and recommendations you have behind you.
All the best to the lucky six.
S&L
Another one bites the dust.
After 8 years of trying, it's now game over for me. I am now officially too old for any of the other sponsorships and this was my last shot. Goes to show that even with an acceptance letter from BA nailed to the front of your application, it's still a lottery where you can be outnumbered and out-gunned at every turn. At some point you have to accept that an 18 year old is a much more attractive prospect than a 27 (nearly 28) year old, whatever experience and recommendations you have behind you.
All the best to the lucky six.
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Straight & Level,
I'm sorry to hear you didn't get further. I'm in a similar position to you, have been applying for, erm, about 7 yrs now and I'm getting a bit too old too.
I've always figured that self-sponosrship wasn't an option due to the funding needed, but after doing well with BY sponsorship this year, followed it up and it is 'do-able', although the thought of repaying a loan of £60k (+ interest) isn't the best option, it is an option!
As for my application to flyBE, I think my letter from Cabair is either lost in the post somewhere, or sitting at the wrong address...I think I'll call them tomorrow.....
The Moog
I'm sorry to hear you didn't get further. I'm in a similar position to you, have been applying for, erm, about 7 yrs now and I'm getting a bit too old too.
I've always figured that self-sponosrship wasn't an option due to the funding needed, but after doing well with BY sponsorship this year, followed it up and it is 'do-able', although the thought of repaying a loan of £60k (+ interest) isn't the best option, it is an option!
As for my application to flyBE, I think my letter from Cabair is either lost in the post somewhere, or sitting at the wrong address...I think I'll call them tomorrow.....
The Moog
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Brasher,
Erm...I think you're wasting your time on studying matrices - you won't be asked a single question on them! A level equivalent mathematics isn't a prerequisite for any of these sponsorship schemes. Same with in-depth vectors. Ai + Bj +Ck, vectors intercepting planes (the flat kind!) and the like won't make an appearance for the same reason.
Algebra and trig fair enough...
Just get really good at the more basic stuff!
V1R
Erm...I think you're wasting your time on studying matrices - you won't be asked a single question on them! A level equivalent mathematics isn't a prerequisite for any of these sponsorship schemes. Same with in-depth vectors. Ai + Bj +Ck, vectors intercepting planes (the flat kind!) and the like won't make an appearance for the same reason.
Algebra and trig fair enough...
Just get really good at the more basic stuff!
V1R
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Thanks V1R.
You say "really basic", do you mean long division etc? Any help would be appreciated. My letter from CCAT says "There will be three papers which will be maths and physics based, set to the equivalent of A/S Level (use of calculators will not be permitted)."
Does anybody know how this compares to the likes of the CTC scheme?
Regards,
M
You say "really basic", do you mean long division etc? Any help would be appreciated. My letter from CCAT says "There will be three papers which will be maths and physics based, set to the equivalent of A/S Level (use of calculators will not be permitted)."
Does anybody know how this compares to the likes of the CTC scheme?
Regards,
M
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I'd say a good handle on algebra (nothing much above re-arranging equations quickly and accurately I'd imagine), trigonometry (knowing all the sines, cosines & tangents of angles like 30, 45 and 60 deg might be useful) and geometry (areas, Pythagoras' theorem, etc.) and mental arithmetic (inc. long division and basically just being able to deal with numbers accurately and quickly in your head as opposed to with a calculator).
Just my take on things. The reason I don't think it can go into higher maths is that, in general, the requirements for these schemes do not require anything more than GCSE maths (this is also the minimum requirement for ATPL studies if you have a peek at flight school brochures).
Of course, cadetships are a bit more demanding in terms of requirements but still, in principle, will accept candidates with A-level equivalent qualifications not NECESARILY including maths and physics...though many will offer these and a degree.
DISCLAIMER
Of course, take what CCAT say above what I do but as the general requirements don't demand A-level maths, I can't see how the questions can be toooo advanced. Having A-level equivalent maths (as I think you say you do) should give you more than enough ammo to handle the questions - just get that mental arithmetic up to scratch I reckon!
Best of luck, I've just fininshed uni and am currently doing my PPL before hopefully applying for sponsorship schemes like this...currently trying to randomly do maths on the walk home from work, in the pub etc. to keep sharp!
V1R
Just my take on things. The reason I don't think it can go into higher maths is that, in general, the requirements for these schemes do not require anything more than GCSE maths (this is also the minimum requirement for ATPL studies if you have a peek at flight school brochures).
Of course, cadetships are a bit more demanding in terms of requirements but still, in principle, will accept candidates with A-level equivalent qualifications not NECESARILY including maths and physics...though many will offer these and a degree.
DISCLAIMER
Of course, take what CCAT say above what I do but as the general requirements don't demand A-level maths, I can't see how the questions can be toooo advanced. Having A-level equivalent maths (as I think you say you do) should give you more than enough ammo to handle the questions - just get that mental arithmetic up to scratch I reckon!
Best of luck, I've just fininshed uni and am currently doing my PPL before hopefully applying for sponsorship schemes like this...currently trying to randomly do maths on the walk home from work, in the pub etc. to keep sharp!
V1R
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s+l 80kts,
the ctc scheme now accepts applicants up to 30 years old, if you haven't already applied then have a go, or if u have and didn't make it past stage 3/4 then ask about re-applying, there are plenty of guys in nz who failed at one stage or another but made it through the 2nd time
WBV
the ctc scheme now accepts applicants up to 30 years old, if you haven't already applied then have a go, or if u have and didn't make it past stage 3/4 then ask about re-applying, there are plenty of guys in nz who failed at one stage or another but made it through the 2nd time
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Any hope for Northern Ireland?
Hi there!
I am also waiting for a response from flybe, but I am living in Northern Ireland, perhaps that is why I have not heard back from them yet.
Anyone out there from NI or the Republic who has heard back?
Thanks!
And well done to all those who have got in!
I am also waiting for a response from flybe, but I am living in Northern Ireland, perhaps that is why I have not heard back from them yet.
Anyone out there from NI or the Republic who has heard back?
Thanks!
And well done to all those who have got in!
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V1R
Your take on things sounds pretty accurate and encouraging! As all ive done before are the CTC tests, I havent got a lot to judge it against, but all they wanted was arithetric (long / and x) to work out things like fuel burn, time to climb/descend, speed/distance/time etc. I agree, a more than comprehensive grasp of the basics is the key.
For those who have done A-level standard maths/physics, I think you will all be more than alright with the level of testing.
Good luck with the PPL. Sounds like we are in similar postions; I too have just finished uni and also have a PPL. Good luck with future applications.
Good luck to everyone whatever their situation.
OUAS
Your take on things sounds pretty accurate and encouraging! As all ive done before are the CTC tests, I havent got a lot to judge it against, but all they wanted was arithetric (long / and x) to work out things like fuel burn, time to climb/descend, speed/distance/time etc. I agree, a more than comprehensive grasp of the basics is the key.
For those who have done A-level standard maths/physics, I think you will all be more than alright with the level of testing.
Good luck with the PPL. Sounds like we are in similar postions; I too have just finished uni and also have a PPL. Good luck with future applications.
Good luck to everyone whatever their situation.
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Re: Hearing back in Ireland.
I got my 'thanks but your no good letter' yesterday (Monday).
I have an Honours Degree, but as of yet 0 hours, maybe that was the reason I failed.
Anyways onwards and upwards....
LTSIW
I got my 'thanks but your no good letter' yesterday (Monday).
I have an Honours Degree, but as of yet 0 hours, maybe that was the reason I failed.
Anyways onwards and upwards....
LTSIW
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liketheysaiditwould,
I guarantee that every pro pilot cruising in their shiny prop/jet has had at least one, if not many, dissappointments like yours. I reckon it comes down to a positive attitude and a "glass-is-half-full" outlook - we'll all get our big breaks if we keep at it
Their loss
The routes to a RHS are many and varied...and all a lot of fun I'm sure.
All the best chaps/chapesses,
V1R
I guarantee that every pro pilot cruising in their shiny prop/jet has had at least one, if not many, dissappointments like yours. I reckon it comes down to a positive attitude and a "glass-is-half-full" outlook - we'll all get our big breaks if we keep at it
Their loss
The routes to a RHS are many and varied...and all a lot of fun I'm sure.
All the best chaps/chapesses,
V1R
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Have to wait and see here
Thanks to liketheysaiditwould. I am at work a the moment, so I hope when I go home the letter will be there, just want to know either way. Hard luck to yourself, and as the others say, it's not the be all and end all. I am sure you will soar to success!
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Hello!
I got through to the stage two selection on the 19th, the letter arrived on Saturday morning, I opened it just before attending the Flyer Show!!
I had a look at the Cabair example selection tests, at the show and got an insight into what to expect....... and basically, I need to revise like mad, these next two weeks!!
I got the impression, from the Cabair staff, that the tests will be harder than CTC's but please don't hold me on that! (Unfortunatly I didn't get through CTC's stage two, my maths let me down!)
As for my experience/qualification's: I have A-levels in Geography and CDT and a Geography Honours Degree and have flown approx 5 hours in fixed wing aircraft.
If anyone from last year, who did the tests, can you provide a description of your experience?
Many Thanks
I got through to the stage two selection on the 19th, the letter arrived on Saturday morning, I opened it just before attending the Flyer Show!!
I had a look at the Cabair example selection tests, at the show and got an insight into what to expect....... and basically, I need to revise like mad, these next two weeks!!
I got the impression, from the Cabair staff, that the tests will be harder than CTC's but please don't hold me on that! (Unfortunatly I didn't get through CTC's stage two, my maths let me down!)
As for my experience/qualification's: I have A-levels in Geography and CDT and a Geography Honours Degree and have flown approx 5 hours in fixed wing aircraft.
If anyone from last year, who did the tests, can you provide a description of your experience?
Many Thanks
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I'm sure the tests will be much harder than the CTC written maths paper, from what I remember it was a multiple choice and based on GCSE maths not A/S level.
Having done A-levels three years ago (must be getting old) I was the final year before this A/S A2 thing.
I think buy an A/S revision book and see what’s on the course then learn that. Vectors, kinematics and projectiles would all make sense to be questioned on. Without a calculator I'm not too sure how much trig they can test!!! I know nowadays they have non calculator papers etc, unfortunately it was all calculators for me!!
There is to be about five hours of testing, including breaks, so knowing a few of the questions which will be on isn't really going to help us.....confirmed topics from the person who has seen the tests?!!!!
good luck and see you there!!
Having done A-levels three years ago (must be getting old) I was the final year before this A/S A2 thing.
I think buy an A/S revision book and see what’s on the course then learn that. Vectors, kinematics and projectiles would all make sense to be questioned on. Without a calculator I'm not too sure how much trig they can test!!! I know nowadays they have non calculator papers etc, unfortunately it was all calculators for me!!
There is to be about five hours of testing, including breaks, so knowing a few of the questions which will be on isn't really going to help us.....confirmed topics from the person who has seen the tests?!!!!
good luck and see you there!!