bjkeates

As sicky said, there are plenty who have done it. Certainly if you're serious about wanting to get on the course, then go for it. If I remember correctly, one of the guys on my stage 3 day took stage 2 twice, and he's now out in Hamilton. It's certainly possible.

raviolis

are they asking you to pay over 170 quid again ????

sicky

You do have to pay each time you do stage 2

BitMoreRightRudder

Dave I'd have another go. I remember thinking the same as you after I bombed out on stage two. My flying instructor at the time talked me into going for another bash and it was one of the better pieces of advice I received. Been flying jets for a year now. Do I still think about the extra £170 it cost? What do you think?!

Good Luck

bjkeates

The £170 and other expenses associated with travelling down might seem like a total annoyance and unfair to some; but if you really are that set on becoming an airline pilot and your heart is really in it, and you really want to be a part of CTC, definitely have another go at it.

If you pass, great - it was worth it! And if you make it all the way, believe me, that £170 or so is going to seem like a drop in the ocean compared to the £60k bond, £600+ insurance, £5000+ foundation course fee and (in my case anyway)the prospect of having to pay off your student loan from university on top of it all!

If you don't pass - of course, you're going to feel aggrieved at having blown another 170 notes. But if you really are dead set on entering the industry, and given CTC's reputation and employment prospects, would you have been prepared to give up and go through life thinking "what if?" It's an expensive "what if", but when you consider what might be if you then turn out to be successful - and also factor in what you might earn elsewhere if you're not - I'd say it's well worth it.

Go for it, and best of luck.

cparker

bjkeates has summed it up. It's about wanting to be part of CTC and what they offer.

It is interesting to hear people moaning about money spent on selection procedures. How else would you expect to be selected versus what you actually gain from the course?

BitMoreRightRudder

It were just the £60k bond in my day! And easy gave us £5000 beer expenses! Times change I guess.

Mister-Sheep

Hi everyone.

I passed the stage 2 pilapt tests but they wanted me to retake the maths test when I go for stage 3. Could anybody who has done this before tell me, did they give you the same maths paper at stage 3 or a completely different one?
(bit of wishful thinking maybe?)

Cheers

Mister-Sheep

Radioherd

Yeah i'm taking the maths test again at stage 3 this wed, a guy that did the same thing last week said it's a different paper (as you would expect), but the main concern for me was that he said he took the test last thing in the afternoon (after both the group discussion and the interview).

In otherwords, when your brain aint gonna be at its freshest... i thought it would've made more sense to do it while others were getting thier interviews directly after lunch. maybe this guy was unlucky, i dunno, anyways i'll let you know what happens for me...

Mister-Sheep

Yeah that is quite worrying, im gonna make sure I know my maths much better this time!
Anyway, I would appreciate it if you let me know how it goes, mine is a week on wednesday. Thanks mate

Mister-Sheep

EGAC_Ramper

See you there Mister Sheep for phase 3,albeit I'm over for the Wings ATP scheme but we'll both be doing that same group/interview assessment!


Regards

french frog

Why not reapplying?

By this official way you will be sure of the answer,
or give them directly a call :-)

Good luck
Med

docash1983

Hi guys
I was wondering how CTC decide whether to bar people from re-applying? I understand that the tests are designed to identify the most likely individuals who will pass the training, but this is something that worries me greatly. I am finshing off my degree and then want to apply for the CTC scheme. However do any of you know how they work out whether you pass or fail? for example must you answer 40 out of 80 maths questions in say 5 mins etc etc. Any info would be much appreciated, and to all of you off to CTC for phases 2 and 3 i wish you all the very best of luck.
thanks
Ashley

Pazu888

I think this is roughly how it is done:

Maths Test - Basic pass mark, 15 questions in 15 minutes, you must score at least xx. I heard that the pass mark was 12 or over.

PILAPT - This is designed to test lots of different skills ie. motor/coordination, coping with multiple types of incoming information, concentration etc. Generally though it seems to be about improving as you go. You are given a score for most of the individual tests, and you get to try most (though not all) of them 3 times in a row, the idea being to adapt and improve. Like many people have said, there is not much you can do to "practice" for this.

Presumably for the PILAPT, the scores are fed directly into a computer system that analyses how you have done and genrates a pass/fail for each test, as they e-mail you with the result quite quickly (same day).

Hope that helps, good luck for when you apply

Mister-Sheep

Excellent see ya there!

danielplainview

Hello everyone.
I'm a long time reader, first time poster.

Just wondering what exactly happens at stage 3. Is it two group exercises and an interview? Is it a problem if you have little flying experience (even for the Wings program?)

Thanks

bjkeates

Nope, it's not a problem if you have no flying experience, you are not disadvantaged. Your motivation is far more important. My experience is limited to half an hour in a Cessna 150 and a couple of minutes doing some turns in a T-6 Havard and I'm off to NZ tomorrow.

You are correct about Phase 3 - two group exercises and an interview.

sicky

I just got invited to re-apply, so have replied saying i'm up for a bit of that (not in those words )

Just need to find a way to improve the back end of the pilapt

danielplainview

thanks bjkeates

good luck in NZ - just wondering, the group excercises. I heard that one involves talking about issues in the news or whatever, correct? Is the other one like "you are on a desert island and you can only take two chickens and a can opener..." (you know the type)

Have a nice first class flight to NZ!

FlightDeckDave

Hey guys,

Bit of a hypothetical question here - if I do manage to pass phase 2 at 2nd attempt, then pass phase 3 and then phase 4 and the medical.... Do you know if CTC are keen to take students on asap or can you postpone it for say 6-9months if i was to go travelling around the globe? Not that I wouldn't want to get flying straight away but I have the feeling that if I completed the course and had a £60 grand debt, there wouldn't be much left for backpacking! Now I'm sure some of you will say why don't you wait until you come back and apply to CTC then, however as I am being given the opportunity to resit phase 2 with dates only being in Aug or Sept, I wouldn't want to jeapodise my chances of not getting another go at it, and they could change the reapplication process.

And Sicky are you resiting phase 2 and if so do you know when? I think i might go for August, I also need to improve the back end of the pilapt test