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Hope everyone else there today got good news
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Pilapt Feedback - Pure evil has a new form
Hi everyone, here is what I thought about the Pilapts...
Ive tried to remember all of the tests so sorry If I missed anyway. Ive rated them out of 10 for hardness with 10 being the hardest.
Hands
Identify if a person is holding a red circle or square in the stated hand e.g. "Left hand square". The people can be back to front, upside down or the correct orientation. It gets harded when they reverse left and right and reduce the time interval for identification. 8/10.
Pattern Identification
Identify shapes in like a pattern of other shapes. You have to count how many times each shape occurs and there are two panels to do it in. All done in a set amount of time. 7/10.
Flying Through Boxes
You get three goes at this and the aim is to improve each time. Reasonably difficult but not hard to improve upon on each go. 6/10.
Deviation Indicator
Keep the crosshair centred in the middle of the concentric circles. This is more difficult than it sounds as they change either the force pushing back on the joystick or the effect that force has. There is a trick to doing this - use slow steady movements and wait for a reaction before reacting again. At some points I found it impossible to center the damned thing despite pushing the joystick hard over. Tip: This can really make your arm ache so take it easy and have a break after each one. 8/10
Counting Excercise
I found this one of the hardest. You have to listen to a descreasing count e.g. 990, 985, 980 and then press the trigger when the sequence changes e.g. 980, 975, 969 <<-- Press Trigger. You then have to identify the new sequence the repeat the process e.g 980, 975, 969 [FIRE] 963, 957, 954 [FIRE], 951 and so on. This is all done in your head. 9/10.
Distractions/Concentration (cant remember proper name)
You are presented with a grid with colours down one side and shapes across the time. In that grid a shape will appear. If the shape for its given position matches the colour on the side and the shape on the top you have to click it. This isnt too hard. 6/10.
Shape Identification
The computer will say "Red Triangle". Loads of different coloured shapes will flash up. When you see a red triangle press the red button and press the number that corresponds to the number displayed in the shape. 5/10.
The Mother Of All Tests
At the end you have to do the following all at once.
- The Deviation Indicator.
- Counting Excercise
- Shape Identification Excercise
This is very hard. 10/10
After this you have been at it for around 1h15m. I make no excuses - I found them very very tough but I suppose thats the name of the game. Please please please make sure you read the instructions carefully before each one.
I also found that I was exhausted by the time I had driven home.
Ive tried to remember all of the tests so sorry If I missed anyway. Ive rated them out of 10 for hardness with 10 being the hardest.
Hands
Identify if a person is holding a red circle or square in the stated hand e.g. "Left hand square". The people can be back to front, upside down or the correct orientation. It gets harded when they reverse left and right and reduce the time interval for identification. 8/10.
Pattern Identification
Identify shapes in like a pattern of other shapes. You have to count how many times each shape occurs and there are two panels to do it in. All done in a set amount of time. 7/10.
Flying Through Boxes
You get three goes at this and the aim is to improve each time. Reasonably difficult but not hard to improve upon on each go. 6/10.
Deviation Indicator
Keep the crosshair centred in the middle of the concentric circles. This is more difficult than it sounds as they change either the force pushing back on the joystick or the effect that force has. There is a trick to doing this - use slow steady movements and wait for a reaction before reacting again. At some points I found it impossible to center the damned thing despite pushing the joystick hard over. Tip: This can really make your arm ache so take it easy and have a break after each one. 8/10
Counting Excercise
I found this one of the hardest. You have to listen to a descreasing count e.g. 990, 985, 980 and then press the trigger when the sequence changes e.g. 980, 975, 969 <<-- Press Trigger. You then have to identify the new sequence the repeat the process e.g 980, 975, 969 [FIRE] 963, 957, 954 [FIRE], 951 and so on. This is all done in your head. 9/10.
Distractions/Concentration (cant remember proper name)
You are presented with a grid with colours down one side and shapes across the time. In that grid a shape will appear. If the shape for its given position matches the colour on the side and the shape on the top you have to click it. This isnt too hard. 6/10.
Shape Identification
The computer will say "Red Triangle". Loads of different coloured shapes will flash up. When you see a red triangle press the red button and press the number that corresponds to the number displayed in the shape. 5/10.
The Mother Of All Tests
At the end you have to do the following all at once.
- The Deviation Indicator.
- Counting Excercise
- Shape Identification Excercise
This is very hard. 10/10
After this you have been at it for around 1h15m. I make no excuses - I found them very very tough but I suppose thats the name of the game. Please please please make sure you read the instructions carefully before each one.
I also found that I was exhausted by the time I had driven home.
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Originally Posted by hangar
Hi allI was just wondering between all of you whom have applied, done the written part how long did it then take ctc to send you a reply of whether you get to the next stage in bournmouth its just im being very patient now and have been for over a month? Wish i could just recieve the e-mail to yes or no!
any suggestions as to what i should do?
or should i just wait?
cheers hangar
Hi hangar,
I'm in the same boat as you, got an email saying everything was safely recieved just over a month ago, but no further word from CTC yet... Let us know when you hear, I'll do the same. Hopefully wont be much longer one way or another
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hi guys...
I just received another e-mail saying I passed and just waiting for the pilot assessment...
i hope that this week they gonna tel us a date, also because i heart that the next aqc is on september so....
i am just impatient as well...
but how are u getting prepared for the stage n 2...
i am doing math test and I q test...u?????
keep in touch
and crossed fingers
ciao!!!!!!!!!!!
I just received another e-mail saying I passed and just waiting for the pilot assessment...
i hope that this week they gonna tel us a date, also because i heart that the next aqc is on september so....
i am just impatient as well...
but how are u getting prepared for the stage n 2...
i am doing math test and I q test...u?????
keep in touch
and crossed fingers
ciao!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Radioherd
Yeah congrats Pazu, when you off to Dibden?
Got to get revising for the interview...
Hi, im coming down on the 4th August for stage 2 testing.
I'll be driving down from watford early that morning (friday) and if anyone needs a lift and fancies sharing the petrol and ride, let me know. Ill prob go down to the m25 to the m3 so if u live on the way holla at me.
See u there soon
S.I.
I'll be driving down from watford early that morning (friday) and if anyone needs a lift and fancies sharing the petrol and ride, let me know. Ill prob go down to the m25 to the m3 so if u live on the way holla at me.
See u there soon
S.I.
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Any frenchies out there?
Hi all,
I'm going to apply for the CTC cadet scheme shortly. Anybody has experience of translating French degrees/qualifications into their british equivalents? Or does CTC do that part? In particular, how do you translate the "série" and "mention" of a French baccalaureate, and an engineering diploma? Do you need to specify individual grades or just diplomas?
Cheers
I'm going to apply for the CTC cadet scheme shortly. Anybody has experience of translating French degrees/qualifications into their british equivalents? Or does CTC do that part? In particular, how do you translate the "série" and "mention" of a French baccalaureate, and an engineering diploma? Do you need to specify individual grades or just diplomas?
Cheers
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Stage II - Detailed results
Anyone who has passed stage 2, did you get detailed feedback (as well as the "you have passed" email)? If so, roughly how long did it take for this to come through?
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OK thanks, my email about stage 3 was waiting for me when I got home after my stage 2.
Would be really interesting to know exactly how I did in the PILAPT though...!
Would be really interesting to know exactly how I did in the PILAPT though...!
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At the end of the application process (i.e.after phase IV) I received an email with some feedback from the PILAPT and arithmetic tests. It just tells you in basic terms how you did on the tests, and tells you that there may be areas that will require attention throughout the training. It's not particularly detailed or useful feedback- the best feedback comes when you go for a meet and greet at Dibden before you go to NZ and have a one to one debrief with a member of the selection team.
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Pazu, i did indeed receive this feedback of my pilapt results, telling me what areas i did well and what areas not so well etc, it took about 5 days if i remember correctly, ie, i got the e-mail on the wed after i did phase 2 on the fri...
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Good Grief!! Well I read this whole thread with interest, and it seems the same questions are getting asked over again, with the same conspiracy theories being aired. Funnily enough I cannot believe it was really 6 years ago I went through the old ATP scheme, which has changed its name afew times since then. I luckily managed to get all the way through the same hoops you guys now seem to be jumping through. But, for what its worth, in only 6 years from finishing the ATP scheme I now spend my life looking out of the LHS window of a shiney new Airbus. Only got my LHS a few months ago. I suspect that it is only through CTC and this course that anyone could ever dream of going from nothing to Command of a medium jet in 6 years. Ladies and Gents, the loans and commitments all seem huge when you are at the wrong end of those 6 years, but from my position, they really are not that much.
Keep the faith,
Do the work,
Be yourself,
And remember, you are not the first to ever do this, and when you do get into the RHS of your first jet, then there is a fair chance that the LHS is occupied by someone like you as well, only 6 years down the line.
Blue Skies
DT
Keep the faith,
Do the work,
Be yourself,
And remember, you are not the first to ever do this, and when you do get into the RHS of your first jet, then there is a fair chance that the LHS is occupied by someone like you as well, only 6 years down the line.
Blue Skies
DT
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Just think about what it will take to pilot aircraft of the future, what sort of attributes you will (and currently) need, and relate that to yourself.
I found that one a bit tricky too.
I found that one a bit tricky too.