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Old 7th Sep 2004, 13:35
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Grrr

I might as well give up if I were to listen to Scroggs

I suppose it is the same if you go to Uni spend 4 years on a degree and then don't get a job. Ok you will have less debt, but the principle is the same.
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Just like to repeat scientifics request for links please Arrowhead.
As Arrowhead said to scientifics, it's a simple matter to find these via Google. It took me less than 30 seconds for each company. Please assure me that you normally show more initiative than this?
scientifics wrote I might as well give up if I were to listen to Scroggs

I suppose it is the same if you go to Uni spend 4 years on a degree and then don't get a job. Ok you will have less debt, but the principle is the same.
Yes, you might as well give up with an attitude like that. This industry requires candidates with initiative, determination, resourcefulness, and grit. If you think it's difficult now, you are sadly mistaken. There just aren't enough jobs for all the people that want them. Get over it and do something to make your chances better than the next guy's. The jobs won't come to you.....

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Are you as sarcastic as this on the flight deck?
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No. I don't fly with people as defeatist as you. The people I fly with have done their hard times, some of them have stories that would make you wince. Every one of them has character and they would likely succeed at anything they attempted. They are people who have lived, and have a contribution to make. Not one of them would bore me on a 14-hour Hong Kong flight, and none of them are prone to self-pity or crying about the unfairness of their lot. Many have lost their homes and families through their determination to get where they are, and plenty will be pretty damn poor once they have to retire thanks to the bills they've clocked up on their way up the system.

So why should I give you an easy time? Remember how this thread started....

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Old 7th Sep 2004, 14:40
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I find you very amusing.

Obnoxious-yes, but still amusing.

I merely commented on what I have perceived to be happening. If you don't have a constructive comment to make then perhaps you should not bother answering. I thought the purpose of these forums were to help and direct people onto the right path so they may enjoy the same career you love so much and not to answer almost all posts with some bemused sarcastic and inane comments.

For the record I am not defeatist and I am not full of self pity and like many others on here I am determined to over come any obstacles that may be thrown in my way.
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"Many have lost their homes and families through their determination to get where they are"

"Plenty will be pretty damn poor when they retire."

"some of them have stories which would make you wince"

hmmm

As far as I can see Virgin pilots get paid pretty damn amazing.

Up to 94k + £15.60/hour flight pay for a captain.

Thats pretty damn rich by most peoples standards.

You make it sound like were soilders in Vietnam. Hardly.

Its still an enjoyable and well paid job, which makes for a good life (including family). Thats what I find anyway.
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Old 7th Sep 2004, 16:07
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For the record I am not defeatist and I am not full of self pity and like many others on here I am determined to over come any obstacles that may be thrown in my way
That's more like it!

No, I don't answer every query with sarcasm (I invite you to check all my posts for yourself...!). But neither am I here to wipe the bums of babes and tell you everything is going to be OK. There is a very hard world out there but, with careful and intelligent use of these forums, you will prepare yourself better than your peers for the trials ahead. I have no time for those who complain that this or that is unfair; you have to play the hand you're dealt, not the one you wish you had.

I hope you manage to make your way through the maze and eventually find yourself in an airliner pilot's seat, if that's what you want. When you get there, you may understand more of where I'm coming from.

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Smile

Must say I agree with Scroggs. I suffered his wrath in the flight deck - it only made me more determined to succeed. Aviation isn't a career for those who can't face constant criticism and assessment - it's a way of life.

Cheers Scroggs - see you at the bash!
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Ouch! You will get a spanking for that, young lady!
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