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I am in the easyJet holding pool for the airbus...Pilot recruitment don't know how long I will be swimming for....any ideas from those inside what the wait is likely to be? Is it a training backlog or a knock on effect of delayed airbus orders?
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Don't now about any delayed airbus orders they seem to be falling over the fence quicker than we can crew them so i think your swiming time is soley due to a training backlog which I fear will only get worse in the imeadiate future with STN pilots all due to start conversion to the Bus in the near future first Bus to STN in Jan I believe.
All line trainers are walking around looking like dead men they are working so hard!
So keep swiming as you'll enjoy it when they eventually fish you out!
However don't turn down any good offers while you swiming!
All line trainers are walking around looking like dead men they are working so hard!
So keep swiming as you'll enjoy it when they eventually fish you out!
However don't turn down any good offers while you swiming!
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Are you Airbus rated? If you are not you may have a long wait but if you are then I imagine it will all be pretty quick. It is hard to know 'the big picture' but right now there seems to be no shortage of Airbus type-rated pilots so inevitably they are used up first. For what it is worth, it is a great job once you are in.
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The honest answer is I don't know! By and large the recruitment people are pretty good about telling you the truth and if they do not know either then it shows that things are a bit fluid. I am just a line pilot and have picked up somewhere about Orly and the Airbus happening soon but I cannot be sure of the details or indeed if it is 'official' yet.
The frank truth is that as a TRSS entrant you are not as attractive as type-rated applicants and therefore they will always go there first. The eJ recruitment system is somewhat hit and miss in that they are processing enormous numbers of applicants and the system is bulging at the seams. When it comes down to it there are only really a handful of people in recruitment (about 3 or 4!) and they have to process countless initial applications, arrange selection days, run those days, make choices, send out contracts and then ensure that they match applicants to courses. Over and above this they have piles of one-off queries to deal with which all take time. In addition to this the requirements are constantly changing and they have to match recruitment to reflect this. The net result is that mistakes are sometimes made and it can seem a bit shambolic from the outside. They are simply maxed-out and are meeting themselves coming backwards. The nature of 'low-cost' is that they have as few staff as possible to do the most numbers of jobs, and it can mean that when you are desparately waiting word from them that it seems like an eternity. Don't worry though - your turn will come, and it is worth waiting for.
The frank truth is that as a TRSS entrant you are not as attractive as type-rated applicants and therefore they will always go there first. The eJ recruitment system is somewhat hit and miss in that they are processing enormous numbers of applicants and the system is bulging at the seams. When it comes down to it there are only really a handful of people in recruitment (about 3 or 4!) and they have to process countless initial applications, arrange selection days, run those days, make choices, send out contracts and then ensure that they match applicants to courses. Over and above this they have piles of one-off queries to deal with which all take time. In addition to this the requirements are constantly changing and they have to match recruitment to reflect this. The net result is that mistakes are sometimes made and it can seem a bit shambolic from the outside. They are simply maxed-out and are meeting themselves coming backwards. The nature of 'low-cost' is that they have as few staff as possible to do the most numbers of jobs, and it can mean that when you are desparately waiting word from them that it seems like an eternity. Don't worry though - your turn will come, and it is worth waiting for.
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Just out of interest..
Close friend of mine with A320 rating but no hours on this type was told by easy that they won't invite him for selections since he doesn't have any hour on type..
This guy can start tomorrow morning if they want..
Cheers
DII
Close friend of mine with A320 rating but no hours on this type was told by easy that they won't invite him for selections since he doesn't have any hour on type..
This guy can start tomorrow morning if they want..
Cheers
DII
In one way its good to have a rating on your licence as it stands out on your CV, shows your commitment, abilty to complete course etc etc. However with some airlines its not worth the paper its written on!
A type rated pilot with no hours is rather an unknown quantity. They need full base and line training, they have no gone through the Company groundschool and simulator course and therefore may no of covered what the Company want or are obliged for them to cover.
Remember, a type rated approved course has to follow a set and very rigid syllabus; the CAA insist on it, they want to make sure ALL pilots cover ALL subjects.
That I suspect is why they didnt bite off the hand of your friend.
Many years ago when Airtours converted their pilots from the MD-83 to the 320, they held this opinion. They would rather spend the money and put a pilot throught the complete course than have someone join who may of missed something important.
I know it doesnt help your friend but sometimes its good to have a bit of background info.
A type rated pilot with no hours is rather an unknown quantity. They need full base and line training, they have no gone through the Company groundschool and simulator course and therefore may no of covered what the Company want or are obliged for them to cover.
Remember, a type rated approved course has to follow a set and very rigid syllabus; the CAA insist on it, they want to make sure ALL pilots cover ALL subjects.
That I suspect is why they didnt bite off the hand of your friend.
Many years ago when Airtours converted their pilots from the MD-83 to the 320, they held this opinion. They would rather spend the money and put a pilot throught the complete course than have someone join who may of missed something important.
I know it doesnt help your friend but sometimes its good to have a bit of background info.
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yes all STN pilots converting to A319 between Nov and June.
No, no plans yet to change over LTN to airbus. Perhaps not so prbable either, with the Boeing training centre there.
eJ plans to have retired total 733 fleet in 18months.
yes all STN pilots converting to A319 between Nov and June.
No, no plans yet to change over LTN to airbus. Perhaps not so prbable either, with the Boeing training centre there.
eJ plans to have retired total 733 fleet in 18months.
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kick the tires:
My friend did his rating in a recognised TRTO, he did base training (not ZFT!), has the rating on his licence, a UK licence..
So this guys won't cost a lot to any company. He just needs line training, ie normal flights.
I'm sure he'll find another company willing and happy to hire him! It might not be easyjet but his 320 rating will be the reason of him finding a job!
Cheers!
DII
My friend did his rating in a recognised TRTO, he did base training (not ZFT!), has the rating on his licence, a UK licence..
So this guys won't cost a lot to any company. He just needs line training, ie normal flights.
I'm sure he'll find another company willing and happy to hire him! It might not be easyjet but his 320 rating will be the reason of him finding a job!
Cheers!
DII
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integrated course, 1000 TT on a turboprop. Alledgedly it helps to know someone on the inside - it did with my application... From applying to job offer ranges from 1 month to 2 years. Can'treally be much more help im affraid. DONT ring and hassel them. They are a small dept flat out.
Someone suggested that updating your flying hours monthly 'refreshes' your application in the system...not sure if I agree with that but there you go. With the info from other posts above i suspect that external recruitment will slow up.
Keep it going and good luck.
Thanks for the info from others....anyone else getting sore eyes from the chlorine??
integrated course, 1000 TT on a turboprop. Alledgedly it helps to know someone on the inside - it did with my application... From applying to job offer ranges from 1 month to 2 years. Can'treally be much more help im affraid. DONT ring and hassel them. They are a small dept flat out.
Someone suggested that updating your flying hours monthly 'refreshes' your application in the system...not sure if I agree with that but there you go. With the info from other posts above i suspect that external recruitment will slow up.
Keep it going and good luck.
Thanks for the info from others....anyone else getting sore eyes from the chlorine??
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Touched on this on a previous EZY thread with no definitive reply...
How does one enter into the system via the recommend scheme?
My mate says that I have to put his name on my app before he puts mine in at his end - but the only space to enter his name is as personal referee (and I haven't known him 5 years - surely that box is to get an airside pass, not to put in my mate's name).
As it is that is where I have put it and will explain situation and give name of my 5 year referee as soon as EZY show any interest in me.
My question is - will this work? Since the whole thing is computerised if it in the wrong place then it will make no difference to my app which will be lost among the many thousands of unsolicited apps. If it is the correct place and I am at the back of a very long queue/not what they are after I will never know!
Can anyone give me a definitve answer as to how the recommend scheme works please
(And yes I have queried this with my mate - his form says I have to put his name in the 'referee' box - which doesn't exist in the exact wording his instructions give). Just after advice from someone who has tried this and had it work
Cheers
RP
How does one enter into the system via the recommend scheme?
My mate says that I have to put his name on my app before he puts mine in at his end - but the only space to enter his name is as personal referee (and I haven't known him 5 years - surely that box is to get an airside pass, not to put in my mate's name).
As it is that is where I have put it and will explain situation and give name of my 5 year referee as soon as EZY show any interest in me.
My question is - will this work? Since the whole thing is computerised if it in the wrong place then it will make no difference to my app which will be lost among the many thousands of unsolicited apps. If it is the correct place and I am at the back of a very long queue/not what they are after I will never know!
Can anyone give me a definitve answer as to how the recommend scheme works please
(And yes I have queried this with my mate - his form says I have to put his name in the 'referee' box - which doesn't exist in the exact wording his instructions give). Just after advice from someone who has tried this and had it work
Cheers
RP
I'm in the same boat. Mate glibly says put me down on the form and your application will bubble to the top. Open the web form and there is no convenient or appropriate field to nominate a sponsor within the company. Very frustrating! I'll do some more digging and see if I can find an answer but if there's anyone out there in easyland can answer I'd be very grateful.
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You need a pilot or manager inside EZY to put your name forward to Flight Deck Recruitment.
Then a very nice lady will pull out your e-form from the morass and forward it to management for direct entry or TRSS consideration.
That works a heck of a lot quicker than putting down a mate's name on your app form. Get your mate to recommend you via the EZY staff website.
Then a very nice lady will pull out your e-form from the morass and forward it to management for direct entry or TRSS consideration.
That works a heck of a lot quicker than putting down a mate's name on your app form. Get your mate to recommend you via the EZY staff website.
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Ropey Pilot & Ham Phisted,
The box you are looking for on the application form is located below the "why do you want to work for easyJet" box and is labelled "name of easyJet referee".
The box you are looking for on the application form is located below the "why do you want to work for easyJet" box and is labelled "name of easyJet referee".
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737NG or A319
As an Easy newhire, if magically given the option, would it be better to bid 737-700 out of Luton or now A319 out of STN if location in the London area didn't matter? Does one base offer better schedules or better operations than the other?
I bet the former GO pilots will be happy to get out of those junky 737-300s and into some nicer aircraft.
I bet the former GO pilots will be happy to get out of those junky 737-300s and into some nicer aircraft.