How long did it take you to get your first job?
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June 2002 - completed IR had 260hrs total
February 2004 - completed 757/767 type rating with airline
Now, a lot more hours and jet experience and a dream come true!!!!
February 2004 - completed 757/767 type rating with airline
Now, a lot more hours and jet experience and a dream come true!!!!
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It seems that only the lucky are posting on here.
Me?
IR pass on 10/9/2001 (<--- look again!!!)
MCC
FIC 2003
Part time instructing because I can't afford to live on a full time FI wage
TT 450 hours.
Wait, you guessed it, no full time flying job, on jets, TP's or pistons, and getting increasingly unlikely as time goes on.
Just to put a little perspective to this thread, not everyone will get that first job ever!
Me?
IR pass on 10/9/2001 (<--- look again!!!)
MCC
FIC 2003
Part time instructing because I can't afford to live on a full time FI wage
TT 450 hours.
Wait, you guessed it, no full time flying job, on jets, TP's or pistons, and getting increasingly unlikely as time goes on.
Just to put a little perspective to this thread, not everyone will get that first job ever!
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It seems that only the lucky are posting on here.
Me? 4.5 years since getting CPL/IR, 9 years since I started flying after I had a trial lesson when I was bored one weekend.
All training done on the 'self-improver' system that used to exist before JAA came along. 'Unapproved IR' on reaching 700 hours instructing part time on a BCPL. Never spent a minute in a class room to pass the written exams.
[edited to add training information as requested by Louis]
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Roughly 3 months and I started in April 1989.
450 hours total, I had 5 interviews, 3 job offers and 'chose' my first airline - Air Europe.
Great first two years and then the airline went bust. Out of work for a year and (B757rated !!!) no one would touch me with the proverbial barge pole.
I never did find such a good airline as AE and wish I had left the industry then and done something sensible.
450 hours total, I had 5 interviews, 3 job offers and 'chose' my first airline - Air Europe.
Great first two years and then the airline went bust. Out of work for a year and (B757rated !!!) no one would touch me with the proverbial barge pole.
I never did find such a good airline as AE and wish I had left the industry then and done something sensible.
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BCPL issued May 1999
Total time 600 hours, got first job as summer scenic flight pilot in June 1999 on Cessna 172. (Single crew).
CPL issued October 1999
Total time 730 hours, got first multi-engine piston, scheduled pax job in February 2000. (Single crew)
Total time 1100 hours, got first multi-engine turbine job as F/O in October 2000. (Multi-crew, but on DHC-6, so single-crew in terms of CAA licencing). Got DHC-6 command at 1300 hours Total Time.
Total time 2400 hours, first proper multi-crew turbine job in September 2003, as Captain on SAAB 340s.
Enjoying every single minute of it!
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Total time 600 hours, got first job as summer scenic flight pilot in June 1999 on Cessna 172. (Single crew).
CPL issued October 1999
Total time 730 hours, got first multi-engine piston, scheduled pax job in February 2000. (Single crew)
Total time 1100 hours, got first multi-engine turbine job as F/O in October 2000. (Multi-crew, but on DHC-6, so single-crew in terms of CAA licencing). Got DHC-6 command at 1300 hours Total Time.
Total time 2400 hours, first proper multi-crew turbine job in September 2003, as Captain on SAAB 340s.
Enjoying every single minute of it!
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HOPE
Here's my short history:
Jan 1983 Born with "a dream to fly" already instilled in me
Aug 2001 Left school with A-levels
Sep 2001 Application to BA for their Cadet-scheme frozen
Oct 2001 Successfully completed an introduction to Cabin Crew course...then got told no airline would take me until I was 19. They never told me that before taking my money.....LOL
Mar 2002 Left for the USA for PPL + Hour Building
May 2002 Started ATPL theory exams (Distance Learning)
Aug 2003 Finished ATPL theories (all first time passes)
Oct 2003 Obtained CPL
Nov 2003 Passed ME/IR
28th Feb 04 Rejected at final Phase of CTC
2nd Mar 04 Last minute place on MCC/JOC at Oxford
Jun 2004 Starting with bmi Regional on ERJ-145
Total Time (including sim hours) = 288
Last Actual Flight = IR test (money has been so tight I've never actually flown apart from during my lessons!)
I just want to encourage people young and old....that even since 9/11 getting a job with low-hours: it IS possible. Even doing a Modular course at a 'smaller school than Oxford/Cabair/et all': it IS possible. After the painful rejection by CTC: it IS possible.
The key is to learn from all the experiences and become stronger, and not bitter/twisted. A bit of hope and faith go a long long way, as I can testify to.....
Jan 1983 Born with "a dream to fly" already instilled in me
Aug 2001 Left school with A-levels
Sep 2001 Application to BA for their Cadet-scheme frozen
Oct 2001 Successfully completed an introduction to Cabin Crew course...then got told no airline would take me until I was 19. They never told me that before taking my money.....LOL
Mar 2002 Left for the USA for PPL + Hour Building
May 2002 Started ATPL theory exams (Distance Learning)
Aug 2003 Finished ATPL theories (all first time passes)
Oct 2003 Obtained CPL
Nov 2003 Passed ME/IR
28th Feb 04 Rejected at final Phase of CTC
2nd Mar 04 Last minute place on MCC/JOC at Oxford
Jun 2004 Starting with bmi Regional on ERJ-145
Total Time (including sim hours) = 288
Last Actual Flight = IR test (money has been so tight I've never actually flown apart from during my lessons!)
I just want to encourage people young and old....that even since 9/11 getting a job with low-hours: it IS possible. Even doing a Modular course at a 'smaller school than Oxford/Cabair/et all': it IS possible. After the painful rejection by CTC: it IS possible.
The key is to learn from all the experiences and become stronger, and not bitter/twisted. A bit of hope and faith go a long long way, as I can testify to.....
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1995 - FAA PPL
1999 - FAA CPL/IR/CFI/CFII/MEI
1999-2001 - Hour building as single/twin instructor USA
Feb 2002 - Complete conversion to JAA CPL/IR (fATPL)
April/June 2002 - Successfully negotiate CTC ATP scheme hurdles
Dec 2002 - Start with ezy (B737)
Total time at first airline job 1500 hours (1000 piston single, 500 piston twin)
1999 - FAA CPL/IR/CFI/CFII/MEI
1999-2001 - Hour building as single/twin instructor USA
Feb 2002 - Complete conversion to JAA CPL/IR (fATPL)
April/June 2002 - Successfully negotiate CTC ATP scheme hurdles
Dec 2002 - Start with ezy (B737)
Total time at first airline job 1500 hours (1000 piston single, 500 piston twin)
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Hiya,
On my MYT training course, there was a bloke who had done his PPL, and CPL, but had no type rating.
He is now working as Cabin Crew with MYT because he cannot find a job.
It seems the hardest thing is to get a type rating?
Why not also do the same and Crew for a while?
At least then you can stay in aviation, make some contacts and improve your performance in CRM!
On my MYT training course, there was a bloke who had done his PPL, and CPL, but had no type rating.
He is now working as Cabin Crew with MYT because he cannot find a job.
It seems the hardest thing is to get a type rating?
Why not also do the same and Crew for a while?
At least then you can stay in aviation, make some contacts and improve your performance in CRM!
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finished my CPL-IR training with MCC in 2001,
I had to work in an other area due to the bad situation of the airlines at this time
then I got 4 interviews,
passed 2 of them
I started to fly for TNT this year on Bae146 with 250 hrs total time
I had to work in an other area due to the bad situation of the airlines at this time
then I got 4 interviews,
passed 2 of them
I started to fly for TNT this year on Bae146 with 250 hrs total time