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Old 18th Apr 2004, 14:55
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Thursday

Hi all,

Got the call on Friday and decided on the Thursday afternoon test. Haven't recieve the e-mail as of yet, should come tomorrow. Best of luck to all those starting tomorrow!!!

See you on Thursday!!

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Old 18th Apr 2004, 15:30
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hey pheel u goin to luton yea? if so i might see ya cos ive got 1pm at luton!
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Old 18th Apr 2004, 15:42
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testing

does anyone know what types of tests are being conducted, im fairly new to this game so a little unsure and unprepared? any advise in preparation greatly received
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i heard that there is one involving a magnet and 4 coins? is this true? :P
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Old 18th Apr 2004, 16:49
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yeah oz, see you there!

can you give me any details about the email? forward it if poss?

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Old 18th Apr 2004, 18:59
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whats everyone else's backkground, i have next to no flying experience, a few lessons here and there but i am an aircraft engineer working on 737's at easyjet. Just wondering as this is the first time ive applied for a scheme like this.

Will the day consist of

personality tests
numerical "
verbal reasonsing

will there be a group exercise???, when i got the phone call it was very short and sweet, not much information to plan around????
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Old 18th Apr 2004, 19:46
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Hi Guys,

I got the call on Friday (after a lot of phone tennis between me and Andrew at AA!) and i'm booked in for the morning session on Tuesday. will anyone else be there??

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Old 18th Apr 2004, 19:50
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im in for the afternoon session on tuesday, if i time it right biggles u can give me the answers(only messing)if anyone is going on monday write a couple lines about the day pretty please.

GOODLUCK ALL
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Old 18th Apr 2004, 20:35
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A little about the tests!!

I applied to the BY scheme when they last ran it. I made it through the first round of tests only to do unbelievably badly in the group exercises at the next round!!

Anyway, when I had my tests (held at EMA back in late 2002) they consisted of about 3 hours of written exercies (no computer tests) ... a variety of verbal reasoning, maths and mechanical reasoning.

From what I recall, the verbal reasoning covered everything from "kitten is to cat as xxxx is to dog" to odd-word-out to punctuation to answering True/False questions based on a short paragraph.

The maths exercises covered things like work out the next number in the sequence and what is the missing number in the 3x3 grid.

The mechanical reasoning involved the typical selection of which shelf can hold the most weight, which door cannot be opened because of its hinge, which lever gives the easiest movement etc etc

If I remember correctly, they used tests complied by a company called SHL their website is www.shldirect.com and there are some practise tests on the website.

All-in-all everyone at BY tried to make the day as relaxed as possible, and of course there was the usual enjoyable wannabe banter!

I DO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS ONLY MY RECOLLECTION OF THE DAY AND THAT IT WAS 18 MONTHS AGO!! FOR ALL I KNOW THEY COULD HAVE CHANGED THE TESTING PROCESS SO DON'T TAKE THIS AS GOSPEL!

Best of luck to you all ... I have been in your shoes many a time before I made it, so stay positive!
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Old 18th Apr 2004, 23:08
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Hi all.

Bit confused as the end date seems to have disappeared, but the flyer on uk-aa still suggests this is a bit of a one-off for 5 people to get through.

Does anyone have any cheeky inside info?

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Old 19th Apr 2004, 04:48
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Hello,
Can anybody who has actually got a date for an interview with britannia tell me what sort of qualifications they have? I have a ppl/night rating with about 80 hours and a degree and i thought i'd have been a shoe in for the first round of interviews but as the interviews start today, i guess i ain't going. I'm just wondering if i have too many hours?
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Old 19th Apr 2004, 08:28
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NW3 -

As far as I was aware this was just a one of offer for this year. They're closed for applications now.

However, I did get a bit confused recently as the online Flight International service sent me through an email advertising the Britanna scholarship after the original Ad said it had closed. ??

Then again, that may have just been my computer playing up a bit.


Good luck to all you guys who are doing the Aptitude tests right now!! Let us know how you got on and what it was like!!

Fingers Crossed!!

BW.
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Old 19th Apr 2004, 13:54
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Hi to all of you who have managed to get through to stage 1.
I am in on wed morning, I was just wondering how it went for those who went today and if there was a charge for these assessments?

Cheers

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Old 19th Apr 2004, 14:37
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tiram,

The advert says up to 30 hrs familiarisation but the chap from Brittania at the Prfesional Flyer Show down at Heathrow a few weeks back hinted that those around the PPL (i.e. 45) level would probably be considered.

You can't seem to win at this game can you? Hoop after hoop...

I may be wrong and I'd certainly not let it stop me applying for anything like this but this may be the problem...to many bad (read "non-Brittania-gleaned") habits is probably what they're worried about.

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I started my flight training in january and got my ppl in march, it took me exactly 2 months to get it, now i don't understand britannia if they think that i am not suitable because i have a ppl. Surely i'd be a better choice for them than some clever enegmatic university graduate, of which i'd like to think i am , who has spent daddies money getting through uni, can't be bothered sitting behind a desk and thinks that flying is a glamerous job where the plane flies itself and he'll get paid zillions of pounds for sitting there getting hand jobs off of air hostesses. I have at least pursued my dream by looking into what has to be done, saving up the money to finance my own ppl, getting my class 1, and have spoken to loads of people regarding the hard road ahead, cpl, atpl's, multi rating, multi hours, IR, type rating, finding a job. I have been to university and have an honours degree and have only just turned 24. I'm don't think i'm being arrogant i'm just shocked that i didn't even get to the first stage of interviews, however i'm still where i thought i'd be at this point of my flight training, staring in the endless pit of debt which the bank has kindly given me to continue my training, and which it'll take me years to pay off without guarantee of a job in the industry. I am bitter but none the less good luck to everyone who did get through.
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Hi guys, i'm new to all this and this is also my first post on the forum! This is the first time i've applied for sponsorship and i'm through to the first stage of testing and have an appointment for wednesday afternoon at 1:00.

I don't know what qualifications i.e flying hours etc are prefered for these things but just to let you know i'm currently in my second year at uni studying physics but am looking to persue other options which is why i applied. I don't have any flying experience (as a pilot, i've flown as a passenger) and my biggest qualifications to date are maths and physics a-levels. I came on this site mainly to find out what the day may intail, i've heard rumors of psychometric and academic testing (confirmed by the email) as well as a group activity but would like this clarifying. Also is there likely to be a 1 on 1 interview at this stage?

My dad is a pilot and knows people who have gone through a similar process, according to them you're assessed from the moment you walk through the door, such as how you interact with other people etc, and they may even have cameras filming whats going on - not to make anyone any more nervous!

Cheers

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Old 19th Apr 2004, 15:16
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I am in the same postion as you Tiram. I got my PPL last year and currently have 65 hours. I also have a degree in Aeronautical engineering.
I got through to the Group Stages on their last scheme and at that point I only had 2 hours flying. After not getting any further I deccided it was about time I got my PPL thinking it would be an advantage.
It seems that anything over 45hrs is too much no matter what other qualifications you have.
It is quite annoying but I guess thats life and Airline Appointments were probably told a max number of flying hours to look for and if the candidate is over they are not through. I guess you just have to pick yourself up and carry on trying!

The best of luck to all of you have got through.

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Old 19th Apr 2004, 15:20
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Tiram

Don't be disheartened mate, the trick is to take it on the chin and keep plugging away. I am 22, I had my PPL by the age of 19(self funded), have a class one medical, have worked as an aircraft despatcher(Servisair, Manchester airport), have worked operations and maintenance at Cheshire Flying Services(Liverpool Airport), have worked as an engineer during my industrial placement for BAe Systems(Filton, Bristol), was a member of the UAS, heading for a 2:1 in my Physics degree and had my application checked by 4 pilots, 2 psychology students and 2 language students......and i still didnt get in!!!!
There is no telling what they have set as their criteria. Don't take the rejection the wrong way, instead try and analyse what ur lacking and do something about it. That is the true sign of a detemined person, I reckon that with enough determination(and a tiny bit of luck) you will make it, well.....thats what i'm counting on any way!!!


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Old 19th Apr 2004, 15:21
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tiram,

I'm just about to graduate and then get my PPL before applying for sponsorship to make my self more competitive...seen as everybody else will have a degree. But this fairly logical decision might bite me in the future by all accounts. If you've spent thousands of pounds on gettng a PPL/Class I you'd hope it'd boost your application and show your're hardworking and committed. But who knows...?

Sponsorship seems to to have its own rules - no point getting lots and lots of experience and hours as they'll see you as not being a blank canvas...but surely someone whose done under a 100 hrs shows a passion for flying etc. whereas half the other applicants have a a great physics degree and not a single aviation-related thing on their CV...

Mav

P.S. Not knocking physics degrees...far from it...that's what I'm at the end of!
 
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Oh yeah forgot to mention that my father is a seniour captian for Britannia and knows the chap who runs the sponsorship scheme, he said that anything up about 60 hours is normally tolerated. Also I got in contact with a couple of the students who were sponsored last year and who are currently on the course in Jerez. They said that last year out of the people who got in their flying experience ranged from 1 to 60 hours.
I'm on 100 hours and have family in the airline which probably counts me out!

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