Britannia Airways - Sponsorship Scheme 2004
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Feedback?
Dear Britannia wannabes,
Unfortunately I wasn't one of the lucky ones invited to today's and yesterday's assessments. I received written confirmation from AA today but was a bit annoyed that there was no feedback as promised, just got "we were very impressed with your performance and understand how disappointed you will be [
]. The decision at the end of the day has been a difficult one, due to the quality of the applicants." What help is this?
Phoned AA up but was told that they just know which candidates passed and if I wanted feedback, would have to contact PARC who undertook the testing. The woman I spoke to at AA couldn't even give me PARC's number and had to get it myself off the Net. Made a fruitless international call to Ireland as was told that I would have to wait and ring PARC again in 4 WEEKS (!!!!
WHY?) who would then send me a letter letting me know what went wrong. Why can't they just provide a summary of the test results in the "no thanks" letter?! Not that difficult me thinks? I'm planning on applying for the CTC scheme and wanted the results so that I can imporve my weaknesses before doing similar tests again. Now I may have to go in "blind"..... (if I get invited of course).
Anyone else have more success than me in getting feedback?
laparker79
Unfortunately I wasn't one of the lucky ones invited to today's and yesterday's assessments. I received written confirmation from AA today but was a bit annoyed that there was no feedback as promised, just got "we were very impressed with your performance and understand how disappointed you will be [
]. The decision at the end of the day has been a difficult one, due to the quality of the applicants." What help is this? Phoned AA up but was told that they just know which candidates passed and if I wanted feedback, would have to contact PARC who undertook the testing. The woman I spoke to at AA couldn't even give me PARC's number and had to get it myself off the Net. Made a fruitless international call to Ireland as was told that I would have to wait and ring PARC again in 4 WEEKS (!!!!
WHY?) who would then send me a letter letting me know what went wrong. Why can't they just provide a summary of the test results in the "no thanks" letter?! Not that difficult me thinks? I'm planning on applying for the CTC scheme and wanted the results so that I can imporve my weaknesses before doing similar tests again. Now I may have to go in "blind"..... (if I get invited of course).Anyone else have more success than me in getting feedback?
laparker79
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Kempus,
I wouldn't panic about the score achieved as equally knowing what the discussion topic is ( TJA).
Both exercises are there for us to see how you get on and what you are like. We could equally give you 40 gallon drums and pine poles but that could get a bit messy.
The main thing is just give it your best shot, relax as best you can and most off all be yourself.
Regards
Chin.
I wouldn't panic about the score achieved as equally knowing what the discussion topic is ( TJA).
Both exercises are there for us to see how you get on and what you are like. We could equally give you 40 gallon drums and pine poles but that could get a bit messy.
The main thing is just give it your best shot, relax as best you can and most off all be yourself.
Regards
Chin.
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Laparker,
Bad luck this time... but you have a lot to learn about the Aviation industry.
It's their train set and they call the shots, at least initially.
They will not provide anything but the minimum of feed back, for a multitude of reasons. If you are aiming to be a Pilot for a Major, then a little rejection will not put you off.
Get back on the horse dude!
Bad luck this time... but you have a lot to learn about the Aviation industry.
It's their train set and they call the shots, at least initially.
They will not provide anything but the minimum of feed back, for a multitude of reasons. If you are aiming to be a Pilot for a Major, then a little rejection will not put you off.
Get back on the horse dude!
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Britannia as employer
Hi All.
For the lucky 5 who end up getting through, does anyone know what the deal is with company travel, travel on other airlines, rostering, pay, pensions etc. - or more generally what they are like to work for?
I've been having a look round to try and find out some background, but can't find much. A search for 'britannia' on pprune returns so much that it's hard to know where to start looking!
NW3
For the lucky 5 who end up getting through, does anyone know what the deal is with company travel, travel on other airlines, rostering, pay, pensions etc. - or more generally what they are like to work for?
I've been having a look round to try and find out some background, but can't find much. A search for 'britannia' on pprune returns so much that it's hard to know where to start looking!
NW3
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Laparker
I agree that the letter may as well just have said NO and saved the ink.
But you have to get over these set backs and on to the next scheme
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I would not worry too much if you dont get the feed back before you go to CTC, certainly the first assement day (As far as I went unfortunatly) is totaly different relying upon your hand eye coordination and a group discussion.
Best of luck with your future assessments. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for other schemes.
NT
I agree that the letter may as well just have said NO and saved the ink.
But you have to get over these set backs and on to the next scheme
. I would not worry too much if you dont get the feed back before you go to CTC, certainly the first assement day (As far as I went unfortunatly) is totaly different relying upon your hand eye coordination and a group discussion.
Best of luck with your future assessments. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for other schemes.
NT
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NW3
Britannia are probably one of the best (if not the best) employers in the UK market with above average terms and conditions and very stable rosters with a final salary pension scheme still open to new joiners and training that is also second to none. Take a look at PPJN for pay scales etc.
PP
Britannia are probably one of the best (if not the best) employers in the UK market with above average terms and conditions and very stable rosters with a final salary pension scheme still open to new joiners and training that is also second to none. Take a look at PPJN for pay scales etc.
PP
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As usual they seem to be leaving it until the very last moment possible before letting us know who will be going through to the next stage.
I don't think that my current boss is too appreciative of me repeatedly trying to get time off at about three and a half seconds notice!
I don't think that my current boss is too appreciative of me repeatedly trying to get time off at about three and a half seconds notice!
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14 people for 4 places? Are you sure? Since the start, everything has said 5 places? It would be a bit odd to change it now.
Also, does anyone know which fleet cadets are likely to be placed on? I am hoping it would be the 75's and 76's but that might be too good to be true! Do you know where cadets would be based in the uk? Also, would they be in the 'main' Britannia, or out on a limb in budget ThomsonFly?
TIA.
Also, does anyone know which fleet cadets are likely to be placed on? I am hoping it would be the 75's and 76's but that might be too good to be true! Do you know where cadets would be based in the uk? Also, would they be in the 'main' Britannia, or out on a limb in budget ThomsonFly?
TIA.
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yes, 5 places was quoted, but I'm sure I remember my friend telling me that 1 place was already taken by a candidate from last year's selection (who for some reason I can't remember was unable to accept the offer last year)
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Bases are offered on a seniority basis so at time of joining you tend to be given what is left on offer. Then again, when I joined, I got my second choice and only 7 months later I was offered my preferred option, which obviously, I took.
Some guys had to wait less than that and some, quite a bit longer but in the end, you always get what you want (in normal times that is).
Of course you may wonder how on date of joining you and your 4 mates will be allocated a base since all of you will be as junior as the other one. The answer is..... It will then be done by age. The eldest getting a higher bid priority than the younger on.
I also think that your seniority will be starting not on day one at Flight School but on day one as a fully qualified commercial pilot working for Britannia.
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If you get the 75 that's Britannia "Mainline" and if it's the 73 then you will be a T-Fly pilot. Not too much of a big deal at that level, specially since the seniority list remain a common one.
Saying that i am not sure which fleet you would be put on but if I had to take a guess, I would probably bet on the 75.
Some guys had to wait less than that and some, quite a bit longer but in the end, you always get what you want (in normal times that is).
Of course you may wonder how on date of joining you and your 4 mates will be allocated a base since all of you will be as junior as the other one. The answer is..... It will then be done by age. The eldest getting a higher bid priority than the younger on.
I also think that your seniority will be starting not on day one at Flight School but on day one as a fully qualified commercial pilot working for Britannia.
Also, does anyone know which fleet cadets are likely to be placed on? I am hoping it would be the 75's and 76's but that might be too good to be true!
Also, would they be in the 'main' Britannia, or out on a limb in budget ThomsonFly?
Saying that i am not sure which fleet you would be put on but if I had to take a guess, I would probably bet on the 75.
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AMEX,
If you dont mind me asking, what are the staff perks like for holidays and flights?
Also, what is the morale like? I have heard dubious things about Ryanair and Easyjet in this respect!
If you dont mind me asking, what are the staff perks like for holidays and flights?
Also, what is the morale like? I have heard dubious things about Ryanair and Easyjet in this respect!
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hey!
Well its took me all day of phone calls to AA and Britannia to find out if all successful candidates were contacted on friday and they were.
Those who didnt make it, our letters were posted this afternoon. So much for everyone finding out on the same day! Anyways feedback is available and good luck to all those that made it and keep us informed for next year!
Oh, this number 200?
kempus
Well its took me all day of phone calls to AA and Britannia to find out if all successful candidates were contacted on friday and they were.
Those who didnt make it, our letters were posted this afternoon. So much for everyone finding out on the same day! Anyways feedback is available and good luck to all those that made it and keep us informed for next year!
Oh, this number 200?
kempus