TR vs. Hours?
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TR vs. Hours?
Which do you think is the best positon to be in, in terms of gaining employment?
250hrs with a Type Rating (Probably B737-400)
or
600 hrs, no Type Rating but around 400hrs on a multi turboprop
250hrs with a Type Rating (Probably B737-400)
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600 hrs, no Type Rating but around 400hrs on a multi turboprop
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Unless I am very much mistaken, you'll have a type rating to fly the turboprop. It just won't be the 737 fo course. Personally, I'd go for the turboprop rating and the 400 hours because that would mean you have a job. You'll be gaining hours etc while the 250 hours and a bare type rating on a jet doesn't mean *that* much.
Hours and experience on a multi crew turboprop is a great start to your career.
Hours and experience on a multi crew turboprop is a great start to your career.
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No, some smaller TP's require only a Class rating.
Would it mean that, for example, planes like single turbo prop pilatus TC-6 don t need a TR?
I know on the other hand that the king air needs one.
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If my perf A memory serves me correctly then not all TP acft require a type rating. It remains a class rating if it's less than 5700kgs or 9 seats wheras all jet acft require a type rating regardless of mass/pax.
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I am sitting here with my JAR-FCL and in paragraph 1.220 b) it says:
"Divisions: Type ratings for aeroplanes shall be established for:
(1) each type of multi-pilot aeroplane; or
(2) each type of single-pilot multi-engine aeroplane fitted with turbo-prop or turbojet engines; or
(3) each type of single-pilot single-engine fitted with a turbojet engine; or
(4) any other type of aeroplane if considered necessary
and I now see that you are correct..you are reffering to single-pilot single-engine turbo-prop. But what I also find is that a class rating is established for each manufacturer of single-engine turbo-prop aeroplanes..
"Divisions: Type ratings for aeroplanes shall be established for:
(1) each type of multi-pilot aeroplane; or
(2) each type of single-pilot multi-engine aeroplane fitted with turbo-prop or turbojet engines; or
(3) each type of single-pilot single-engine fitted with a turbojet engine; or
(4) any other type of aeroplane if considered necessary
and I now see that you are correct..you are reffering to single-pilot single-engine turbo-prop. But what I also find is that a class rating is established for each manufacturer of single-engine turbo-prop aeroplanes..
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Under JAR, ANY turbo-prop requires a type rating. There are no exceptions.
If it is multi-engine, the rating is restricted to a single type (although there might be combined ratings I don't know about ie on different variants of the King Air.)
If it is a single engine turbo prop it can be a generic one for all types from a single manufacturer. This is the "class rating for each manufacturer of single-engine turbo-prop aeroplanes" DJ Mixmaster refers to in his post. You still need to go to a TRTO to get this rating.
The weight limit of 5700 kgs which was mentioned in a previous post dates back to the pre-JAR days, when the CAA didn't use to make a difference between piston and turbo-prop engines when it came to ratings. This weight limit is now gone (your SEP class rating for instance has no upper weight limit, although the opportunities to fly a SEP above 5700 kgs are kind of limited anyway).
Hope this helps.
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If it is multi-engine, the rating is restricted to a single type (although there might be combined ratings I don't know about ie on different variants of the King Air.)
If it is a single engine turbo prop it can be a generic one for all types from a single manufacturer. This is the "class rating for each manufacturer of single-engine turbo-prop aeroplanes" DJ Mixmaster refers to in his post. You still need to go to a TRTO to get this rating.
The weight limit of 5700 kgs which was mentioned in a previous post dates back to the pre-JAR days, when the CAA didn't use to make a difference between piston and turbo-prop engines when it came to ratings. This weight limit is now gone (your SEP class rating for instance has no upper weight limit, although the opportunities to fly a SEP above 5700 kgs are kind of limited anyway).
Hope this helps.
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To get back to the original topic, I have it on good authority (easyjet) that a 3 month old type rating that has not been 'used' is next to worthless and not impressive to prospective employers.
I'd go for the hours, and keep building experience.
I'd go for the hours, and keep building experience.
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Armpit,
do you think I waste a lot of money when I try to keep my type rating current? I always thought this would be the best way to keep myself a kind of interesting for any company, anyway it is the only way I have found to show that I am insterested in my career. But maybe all these thousands of Euros which I spent were for the dustbin, because I only have some simulator experience the last years and I am still waiting for a chance for an interview - still successless. Anyway, it is not so easy to find a little job to make any flying hours. Hm, honestly, I must be doing something wrong...
do you think I waste a lot of money when I try to keep my type rating current? I always thought this would be the best way to keep myself a kind of interesting for any company, anyway it is the only way I have found to show that I am insterested in my career. But maybe all these thousands of Euros which I spent were for the dustbin, because I only have some simulator experience the last years and I am still waiting for a chance for an interview - still successless. Anyway, it is not so easy to find a little job to make any flying hours. Hm, honestly, I must be doing something wrong...
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hours
Hey Guy's,
I think the turbine hours are better due to the fact there is at least 6000 kingair's in service worldwide.
what is a type rating if you have mins on the hours.
At least with the hours you can have a better chance
with the smaller carriers and start flying straight away
other than sit on your backside waiting for the 737 job.
There is a school in Deland florida called
CAE AVIATION INTL/THE PILOT TRAINING ACADEMY FLORIDA
which has a fleet of 20 kingairs and they do a lot of turbine training and time building you might want to give them a call
monty or go to the website www.ptaflorida.com and see
what deal they can do for ya,I did a 250 hour package in the
kingair while I was there and actually flew 25 more hours at
no extra cost so you may want to get in touch with them
monty.
Hours are better..
I think the turbine hours are better due to the fact there is at least 6000 kingair's in service worldwide.
what is a type rating if you have mins on the hours.
At least with the hours you can have a better chance
with the smaller carriers and start flying straight away
other than sit on your backside waiting for the 737 job.
There is a school in Deland florida called
CAE AVIATION INTL/THE PILOT TRAINING ACADEMY FLORIDA
which has a fleet of 20 kingairs and they do a lot of turbine training and time building you might want to give them a call
monty or go to the website www.ptaflorida.com and see
what deal they can do for ya,I did a 250 hour package in the
kingair while I was there and actually flew 25 more hours at
no extra cost so you may want to get in touch with them
monty.
Hours are better..
