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Old 11th Sep 2003, 23:58
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CTC - only one company- good or bad?

The thing is that I don't want any more companies to join CTC because they willl dominate the market. This isn't fair to us because if the company is alledegdley not up to scratch with what people are saying then we're shafted. We want at least some to choose from - not just one!

Note alledgedlely. (how the spelling is I dont give a ******) We want something or someone to do something to bloody recify the problem we have. This may take time- I know, but in the short term companies are saying nothing and inexperienced pilots like me are going elsewhere (jobs in London and the like).

Companies will reply with tales of woe such as political pressures and market pressures etc.... but- if people want to travel then really whats there really to stop them? - a bad marketing plan and hearsay?

anyway- enough and I hope things work out well for you......

What can we do?

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I went through CTC as an inexperienced pilot - found it a good scheme. What's the problem with them?
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Companies will reply with tales of woe such as political pressures and market pressures etc.... but- if people want to travel then really whats there really to stop them
It's individual choice. If they want to travel they will. Equally if they don't wish to (for whatever reason, be it economic, terrorism or whatever) then they won't. The aviation market is like any other market; it reacts to what the market wants.

Airlines employ pilots based on their crewing ratio per airframe. The more airframes they have the more pilots they employ. The better they roster then the lower the crewing ratio can be. Airlines are not charities and they don't employ more pilots just to provide employment or training for people who have spent a lot of money getting a licence.

I fail to see what this has to do with CTC having a 'monopoly' (your implication). They just supply a product (of a certain quality) which the market desires. If you want other players in that market to create competition then yes I agree that may be beneficial. If you think it gives Wannabes a better chance, then statistically it may do, but the demand from the airlines will be finite for that product and it doesn't matter how many players are supplying the product, they will still only take so many. The other thing to remember is that if one doesn't make the grade with one of these companies, then they may not make it with another either.

This isn't fair to us because if the company is alledegdley not up to scratch with what people are saying then we're shafted.
I do not see how CTC having a monopoly is unfair to Wannabes. I would be interested to hear why the company is 'allegedly' not up to scratch. In what way? Why would you then be 'shafted'? Just because you don't go straight into the RHS of a jet?

We want something or someone to do something to bloody recify the problem we have.
What problem? What action do you want to see?

and inexperienced pilots like me are going elsewhere (jobs in London and the like)
I don't see this as a problem for the airlines either, harsh as it may be for you to leave the industry before really getting started, but you have to ask yourself why are you leaving? When did you qualify? How many hours have you done since then? Did you expect to walk straight into paid employment upon qualification? And mainly, did you want it enough?

Nobody has to change CTC's approach to low hours pilot selection. They do a bloody good job of supplying a quality product. If someone doesn't make the grade then they should learn from the experience, not just get sour grapes. Perhaps a little work by way of research and practice before the selection could have reaped benefits?

The industry owes no-one a job. No industry does. If the competition is too stiff then perhaps people are making the right decision to leave, just too late to be a financially sound one, but what they are doing is just making it easier for the dedicated.

If you think that guys who are highly qualified through education are leaving to go elsewhere, then this is not an insurmountable problem. There are plenty of pilots in the UK market who don't have degrees or even 'A' levels. The fact remains there are too many qualified pilots chasing too few jobs. Disappearing to the City may be seen as their gain, but in the current market it is no airlines' loss.

I wish you well

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