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Old 14th Aug 2011, 18:38
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French tax for pilots based abroad.

Hi guys

I'm trying to figure out where a pilot working for a british company, based in Germany, living in France is supposed to pay his tax.

There were a few posts about this topic a couple of years ago (at least, they're the ones I found). In essence, the law was that employees involved in international transport were taxable in the country where their company was based. Which meant a pilot employed by a british airline for example wouldn't have to pay tax in France.

However some of the posters wrote that the law was about to change. Could anyone share info about this?
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Salut Altyre!

I hope my experience will help:
As a french citizen, I worked a couple of years abroad (Europe), while my personal adress was located in France.
I was taxed by my airline hosting state.
Taxefree at home . This comes from taxe regulation:
You can't pay taxes twice.
Consider this as a brainstorm starter!


So long buddy.



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There were a few posts about this topic a couple of years ago (at least, they're the ones I found). In essence, the law was that employees involved in international transport were taxable in the country where their company was based. Which meant a pilot employed by a british airline for example wouldn't have to pay tax in France
Hi, you pay your taxes each months in Germany, by a special agreement between
those two countries, you don't have to pay in France, for that, you must fill a special form from the French taxes called form n°2047 every year . You have good chance to be refund some monies. I hope that helps. Rgds
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working for a british company, based in Germany, living in France is supposed to pay his tax.
French (and I beleive EU) law : living more than 181 days in France : you pay taxes in France.
unless your revenue comes from outside France and is taxed at the source, and you can prove that you paid those taxes .
and there is an agreement between the 2 states.
There was one between UK , Germany and France but better check again .

In any case if your residence is in france you will have to fill a tax form and declare your revenue received outside France ( via the famous form 2047 mentioned earlier , downloadable and ready to fill on Internet)
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There was one between UK , Germany and France but better check again
Toujours valable pour l'Angleterre.
Question cotisations sociales, c'est pas la peine de réfléchir, mieux vaut les payer n'importe où SAUF en France (exemple, 11% en Angleterre, le double en France).
Question impôt sur le revenu en revanche, la France offre un tas de déductions (genre demi-parts pour les enfants) qui font pâlir d'envie les autres contribuables européens.
Donc le meilleur plan est de payer ses cotisations sociales ailleurs et son impôt en France... ce qui est possible (merci la législation européenne) si ton revenu provient de l'étranger ET que tu es résident français.
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Seeing you're employed in one country, based in a second and living in a third I think you might need professional advice!!! However to answer some of your points:

a pilot employed by a british airline for example wouldn't have to pay tax in France.

However some of the posters wrote that the law was about to change. Could anyone share info about this?
It did change, British pilots based and paid in the UK but living in France pay UK tax based on the proportion of their work done in the UK and then the balance of the income is taxed in France ( under the France/UK bilateral taxation agreement).

Manflex's advice is very sound, the French "Income Tax" isn't a big problem, especially if you have family, but their Social charges are very high. Paying your NI in the UK, if it's an option, would be a smart move.
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Donc le meilleur plan est de payer ses cotisations sociales ailleurs et son impôt en France... ce qui est possible (merci la législation européenne) si ton revenu provient de l'étranger ET que tu es résident français
Oui, sauf si tu travailles pour une compagnie irlandaise, depuis une nouvelle loi irlandaise de Janvier 2011.

Donc. Résumons:

- Il faut payer ses cotisations ailleurs qu'en France
- Il faut payer ses impots en France
- Il faut éviter de travailler pour une compagnie Irlandaise.
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