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pilot freak 30th October 2019 10:29

Same here and still waiting for a response.

BentleyTheDog 27th November 2019 01:03

Another month has passed, anyone heard anything yet?

pilot freak 16th December 2019 11:43

Nothing yet, Anyone else?

SaulGoodman 11th January 2020 22:33

What did happen with the 737F in Marseille?

Ramses II 20th January 2020 10:25

I have had no reaction on the october application whatsoever except for the confirmation mail. Now they have re-opened recruitment again for NTR FO's 737. How strange.

pilot freak 20th January 2020 19:49

I'm in the same boat as you are!

Jaygilly 21st January 2020 21:42

Do you think west Atlantic will start recruiting low hour pilots that have just finished there training. I have noticed the FO job vacancies they have has no hour requirements.

cttime 23rd January 2020 08:25


Originally Posted by Jaygilly (Post 10668328)
Do you think west Atlantic will start recruiting low hour pilots that have just finished there training. I have noticed the FO job vacancies they have has no hour requirements.

The only way to know is to apply.

SaulGoodman 23rd January 2020 10:59

They have done it in the past and it is not likely they have a lot of experienced pilots lined up, especially not on turbo prop. If there is a time it is now! Mind you that it will take forever to gain hours at WA...

pilot freak 27th January 2020 12:59


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 10669402)
They have done it in the past and it is not likely they have a lot of experienced pilots lined up, especially not on turbo prop. If there is a time it is now! Mind you that it will take forever to gain hours at WA...

What is the average hours a FO fly annually?

Rottweiler22 27th January 2020 19:58


Originally Posted by pilot freak (Post 10672918)
What is the average hours a FO fly annually?

Between 200 and 300 hours per year, I was told. Lots of short sectors, and short nights. Freight isn’t the best way of building hours and experience, I’m afraid.

hard_landing 5th February 2020 18:28

Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.

Banana Joe 5th February 2020 21:28


Originally Posted by hard_landing (Post 10680310)
Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.

Day stops. They fly to their base or "focus" airports like Liège in the night.

Fanor 8th February 2020 12:42

Has anyone applied for the NTR FO position and heard anything back?

Thanks

Jaygilly 8th February 2020 12:44


Originally Posted by Fanor (Post 10682605)
Has anyone applied for the NTR FO position and heard anything back?

Thanks

I applied but haven't heard anything, but the applications haven't closed yet

TFE731 8th February 2020 19:44


Originally Posted by hard_landing (Post 10680310)
Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.

EMA is the base for the 737. However, with week-on week-off there is no need to live close to EMA.

Trossie 9th February 2020 16:49


Originally Posted by Rottweiler22 (Post 10673230)
Between 200 and 300 hours per year, I was told. Lots of short sectors, and short nights. Freight isn’t the best way of building hours and experience, I’m afraid.

Define 'experience'?

Lots of short sectors,
...seems a good way of building very good experience.

Unless, of course, you are confusing 'hours' with 'experience'?

One could easily argue that a 500 hr regional turbo-prop pilot has a lot more experience than a 500 hr 'bucket and spade flights' A320 pilot.

Banana Joe 9th February 2020 17:14

Lots of ILS to ILS. That's been my experience so far. And weather during the night is also a bit more "friendly" than during the day.

Rottweiler22 10th February 2020 12:17


Originally Posted by Trossie (Post 10683572)
Define 'experience'?
...seems a good way of building very good experience.

Unless, of course, you are confusing 'hours' with 'experience'?

One could easily argue that a 500 hr regional turbo-prop pilot has a lot more experience than a 500 hr 'bucket and spade flights' A320 pilot.

Not necessarily. This wasn’t the debate I was getting into. I’m sure it’s great experience. Varied airports, quieter and more chilled ATC, plenty of chances to get the autopilot off and have a go. Not to mention a 737 rating, WOWO roster, and the ability to commute to EMA once a week.

But, it can be a slow way to get experience. Short sectors followed by long waits, some 2 sector days and done (I’m not complaining about that!). Granted, there are longer tours, and some are better than others. Then it’s a whole week off. As a new pilot, it could take you the best part of 5 years to unfreeze your ATPL. Quite slow burning for a new pilot who would fly 7 days a week if they could (I know I would have).

Possibly. The regional prop pilot will have probably done more sectors, turnarounds, take-offs, landings, and seen more dodgy weather up in the Scottish Islands than an Airbus pilot. So quality stick time, yes. Got the t-shirt for that one. Personally, I’d rather point my Airbus in the right direction for 3 hours, than do a 6 sector Sumburgh, but that’s for another day.



SaulGoodman 10th February 2020 16:01

Unless West Atlantic is your end goal, 250 hours is not good for a low timer. I have been in night freight and it could take 10 years to get 2500 hours to be able to get a left seat or be interesting for another “better” airline. Sure, WOWO is great. But this job is more interesting for a DEC that is after lifestyle then it is for a 200hr CPL guy. In aviation anything can happen and believe me when I say it is better to be made redundant with 2000 hours A320/737NG then with 500 hours 737CL or ATP.
Positive though is the roster and the operation is dead simple. No stress whatsoever. I am not 100% sure but I believe the money is better with EAT/DHK/ASL and Star Air.


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