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Sleeping Freight Dog 4th February 2009 19:36

Oversize Cargo to Luanda
 
I have a question for the loadies out there. Does Luanda airport have the
capability to unload a single piece 430" long x 108" wide x 96" high, weight is
14,000kgs? Judging from my specs this piece WILL NOT fit in a B747F, is
that correct? Looks like would have to go the Antonov route.

dionysius 4th February 2009 20:56

I believe Luanda just has standard Hi-Loaders, however if you go the Antonov route, they would offload it straight onto a flat bed trailer using the onboard crane ??

Thunderbird 3 5th February 2009 12:30

Although you haven't advised origin point, May i suggest IL76 a/c.
If origin is within EU VDA-IL76TD-90VD maybe cheaper option than An-124

CR2 5th February 2009 13:48

That will not fit.

A: Nose door is 96" high, and you haven't palletized it yet. Maybe some shoring, plus the thickness of the pallet: you'd be around 102-103 inches.

B: As you know the nose-door has a funny shape. Even if your total height was 96", you will not get 108" in width through the door. It will get stuck at the top (about 97" clearance).

This is one of those "dangerous" loads. At first glance you might think yeah, ok... but you'll end up with egg on your face if you accept that one.

Need to Know Basis 5th February 2009 15:07

LAD
 
CR2 is bang on ref the piece to fit a B747F.......it wont fit.

Try Ruslan / VDA / ADB as I hear they have some freed up availability coming up late Feb / early Mar. The AMC ex USA cancelled aload of flts.

Hollytigs 5th February 2009 15:34

Definately an IL-76 job, much cheaper than An-124. If it needs Stage 4 aircraft you can use Volga Dnepr or Silkway, but if it's from the Gulf or other Stage 2 origin, then there are lots of IL-76 aircraft in DXB/SHJ or dotted around Africa.

Sleeping Freight Dog 5th February 2009 16:55

Thanks CR2. I figured it wouldnt go through the nose as dims I show max width for the nose door is 104".
Does anybody have the dimensions for the cargo area of the IL-76??
Second question, Are their enough HI-Loaders at Luanda rated to carry
the load?
Cargo is origin USA but will transit through Belgium

CR2 5th February 2009 17:11

SFD, At the bottom, you've got close to 150 inches. As I said the opening is a funny shape, narrowing as you go in height. There is a chart somewhere that shows the width at every 2 inch height increments; it is extremely useful.

Also forgot to mention; if you exceed 96 inches in width you need to lift your cargo by means of shoring by 5.5 inches in order to pass over the side/guide rails.

CargoOne 6th February 2009 07:27

IL76 cargo cabin is aprox ~18.5 m long, 3.2 m wide, 3.2 m high (725"x125"x125"), max width up to aprox 105" high, so your piece will fit.

If you want to pick it up ex USA or Europe, the only stage-4 IL76s are at Volga Dnepr and Silkway. They are not cheap if you compare to stage-2 IL76s but still much cheaper than AN124.
Volga is much more experienced with heavy weight and oversize pieces.

You don't really need hi-loader for IL76, but better talk to operator. They have onboard crane but I think you cannot use it for the box of that height.

theloady 11th February 2009 16:42

standard hi-loaders in luanda?

during the last charter performed on the 742 oceanairlines i had to offload the bulk compartment hand by hand ..with more or less 10 people..
i don't want to talk 'bout offloading the maindeck..

no right equipment there..

CargoOne 11th February 2009 17:40

TAAG Angola is still operating 747-300 combi, so I presume there should be a main deck loader in Luanda, but probably you need to pay a few people to find where it is...

charter man 16th February 2009 17:40

Oversize piece
 
If it is originating USA, how are you planning to get to Belgium to transit?


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