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Sleeping Freight Dog 13th November 2008 18:31

Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. 3Q08 Pretax Income Totals $10.1 Million; Net Income $5.2 Million, $0.24 per Share - MarketWatch

Here is the link to the article in question. Makes for interesting reading.

nitty-gritty 13th November 2008 23:49


Originally Posted by Tiger Guy
Nitty. For your information the Polar pilot goofing around is a Marine. I served with him. So no need for cheap shots

If you think about it, that makes it worse than if he was only a civi.

free at last 14th November 2008 07:15

Goofy Marine
 
What an embarsment

L-38 14th November 2008 14:30

Ya Goofy - like wearing rank epaulets on a leather jacket

dumbdumb 14th November 2008 15:00

I personally know the Marine in the picture and I'll explain it for you as Nitty's immaturity -- and vote swaying -- is coming through.

The picture was taken after his upgrade a few years ago and his wife had put the uniform together and wanted a picture. I know it's hard for some of you to believe it's not OK to have fun at work but personal attacks on someone when you don't even know the person is showing your real ways of doing business. Again, if you think I want clowns like you representing me at Teamsters you're wrong. Go pound sand!

Try it sometime . . . it is OK to have fun and laugh and not be serious all of the time -- regardless of where you're having fun. Work or home. Not everything evolves around egotistical, overbearing, anal retentive ba$tards.

And for the Marines that read this board: Semper Fi! I hope you celebrated our Birthday.

layinlow 14th November 2008 15:13

On a more serious note, I see that AAWWH pulled Cato out from under his rock to settle this arbitration. Just what we needed, more slime.

PCLoadLetter 14th November 2008 16:50


Originally Posted by free at last
Goofy Marine What an embarsment

Not nearly as 'embarsing' as your spelling.

Lighten up, Francis... As 'dumbdumb' pointed out, more than likely to deaf ears (eyes?), people ARE allowed to have 'fun' at work.

WhaleDriver 14th November 2008 17:05

Actually, many more wear epaulets on the jackets, than don't. I was DHing on Polar and have to ask who was in charge.

BELOWMINS 14th November 2008 17:14

Whale
The guy in the left seat at the very front of the airplane.

WhaleDriver 14th November 2008 23:25

They were standing in the ICN terminal, no seats..........

free at last 15th November 2008 00:14

PC Spelling
 
A bit of Jet lag!:)

captseth 15th November 2008 02:34

Hey! I wear my epaulets on my leather jacket! Or, at least I did - when I used to have a job...

nitty-gritty 15th November 2008 03:44


Originally Posted by dumbdumb
Try it sometime . . . it is OK to have fun and laugh and not be serious all of the time -- regardless of where you're having fun. Work or home. Not everything evolves around egotistical, overbearing, anal retentive ba$tards.

Having fun is great. Preferably not at the expense of the dead and wounded of battles gone by.

You just need to remember a number of us that had to spill and get our blood spilled might not appreciate it. We always get to remember the past, even if we don't want to. Demeaning what little recognition given to those is a little insulting.

Much like most of your post.

Judging from some of your Polar cohorts, you seem to think alike:

PM


Originally Posted by rob rilly
Never critize someone's service, you PUKE. I'll see you on the Flight Deck !

Such harsh threats really scare me (not) and are contradictory at the same time. AOL is such a great host to have such patronage (not). Little does he know what others have done for the country he lives in. Judging from his previous posts, he is not someone to be proud of in your camp. Some year, he may sober up and get into HIMMS.

nitty-gritty 15th November 2008 15:45

Onto something more germane to the thread.


Originally Posted by layinlow
On a more serious note, I see that AAWWH pulled Cato out from under his rock to settle this arbitration. Just what we needed, more slime.

My guess is that the arbiter has requested them back to address some questions that might have been raised with the final briefs filed by both sides. I'm sure Cato was required to come back as part of his severance package if needed for outstanding arbitrations for the company.

Since all the parties were scheduled to meet on Thursday and it was continued unscheduled through Friday, makes me think more input was needed before a decision instead of an expected verbal briefing of the arbiter's findings to both parties.

dumbdumb 15th November 2008 19:51

At Cato's time of recognition it was made that he would be held on as an advisor -- I think. I would have to pull up the company letter. But I do know that he was held for some sort of position.

As far as the comment on sacrafices made for the country: I did, too and will respect your views on why you may find the picture offensive. Yet another reason to live in this great country. We get to think for ourselves and have opposing views.

Fr8Dog 15th November 2008 22:42

recognition or resignation? I heard it was TERMINATION!

L-38 16th November 2008 15:02

The rumor of J Cato's termination may only have been rooted in wishful thinking. If so, his brief return does not check.
As it was never clearly established on why he left, where did he go?. . Was he actually booted? . . Did he jump to a better opportunity? . . Did he acquire a sudden disease?
At approximately 56yrs in age and well paid, he was far to young to retire, and probably had too much pleasure in becoming AAWH's pain in the ass to it's labor force.

BillyBob521 16th November 2008 23:39

Hopefully dispite all the bad rumors if the Polar folks win this one; think the Nitty folks have hung their hopes on that not happening, but fact is a win at Polar is a win for Labor a loss is a loss. Good luck to all of you! Teamsters sucks!

Deltabravowhiskey 17th November 2008 02:13

The NMB already ruled in favor of "Single Carrier Status" that should tell you how the NMB will rule in regards to the pending award. Polar will lose, Atlas will win and the Engineers will be sent on their way and wished the best.

The NMB will not rule against itself, that is declaring single carrier status and then coming back and singling out certain individuals of that single entity and giving them an elevated status. Thats just the hard simple truth of the matter.

The other point worth noting is that ALPA agreed with the NMB, thats is we are a single carrier and preventing any further rulings from coming down and splitting the combined group. The only difference is that the Seniority will be implemented as agreed upon conclusion of negotiations.

Since Polar refuses to negotiate, Teamsters will take over and move the process forward and eliminate the stumbling blocks which we now call "Polar" and "ALPA".

If you want a contract and want this whole saga brought to an end there is only one choice, TEAMSTERS!

We're movin on like it or not.

DBW

L-38 17th November 2008 07:07


The NMB already ruled in favor of "Single Carrier Status" that should tell you how the NMB will rule . . . Polar will lose
Must be more to it, else why would it take 18 months and many meetings for such a logical conclusion?


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