try a 747-400ERF :ok:

the -400erf goes hand in hand with lay off's as well:yuk:

cargo b third aircraft
 

Has cargo B made the decision yet as to whether the third a/c is a classic or a 400erf.Has anybody heard anything, cheers.

It will be an ERF. Starting the end of October.

I am in a shortlist of candidates for their third aircraft but it does not look so good right now :confused:. Does anyone know if they are aiming for two or three 400 aircrafts?

a -400erf...hmm would like to know where that is coming from..im sure not Boeing..?

Will it be operated by Cargo B or on ACMI lease...?

The plan is a third 747 and this time a 744...
I don't think a fourth or fifth aircraft is likely so for now I believe you can expect to see a single 744 flying for Cargo b.
Anybody know under which registration? Where it's coming from?
Good luck to them

hi
be sure it will be a 742F
cheers

Sorry Matsl but next year only 2 B747-400ERF

Cargo Bru
 

they struggled the first year, they will stumble thru the future as well like most of the other small cargo operators that try to survive with only 1 or 2 machines.

I share the pain of all f/e's that'll loose their jobs as well as all other pilots who have been fired (I hear they only fire foreigners :eek: smells fishy!).

Confirmation today from an insider that 742 is being phased out and will slowly be replaced by 744F.
The first one is expected in a month or so...
Expensive machines though!

Does any one know if this really is an ERF or a conversion?

Would like to know if it is indeed an ERF how they have managed to get a slot on the production line at such short notice.

I know of no carriers that have not taken up the delivery of a brand new 747-400ERF..does any one else..?

My guess either a BCF or they have leased it from another carrier.

They were very lucky to retain their investor!!

its not an ERF just a brand new 400F....

Which airplane is it? They are just going to wet lease one from somebody?

according to CBB ground staff a brand new one, strait from Seattle.

Hearing now that Cargo B has been sold to Asiana and the -400F is coming from them, has any one else got this info..?

2 400F and 1 SF on the market and available now from China Airlines unless Cargo B done a deal with their neighbor CV because their 2 400Fs have been removed from the advertised sale sheet. But again both MK and Cargoitalia are queuing to purchase/lease as well maybe these guys are in the running to :)

Latest update...

Cargo B has struck a deal with NAS, and is leasing two -400F from ANA.

Not sure about Cargoitalia or MK getting 400s, but how long can other carriers continue to operate the classics

Busy day
 

Wow - that is a busy day, sold to Asiana and took on a 744F, then did a deal with Cargolux for 2 744F, then did a deal with NAS(?) taking 2 x 744F from ANA (who don't own any). Come on chaps, I know this is a rumour forum but get a grip.

anything is possible nowadays
heard also it was via northern lease/iceland for the ex jal 400sf coming out of conversion with b-dek

just heard a rumor they have gone back to a b747-200 for third a/c.so all change again IF it is true!!!

Found this today...

Belgium's Cargo B to take first Boeing 747-400 freighter
Brussels-based freight operator Cargo B will take delivery of its first Boeing 747-400 freighter next month for entry into service early in November. The aircraft will be deployed on the cargo airline's three weekly flights to Latin America, serving Sao Paulo, Lima, Quito and Bogota," Cargo B executive VP commercial, Niek van der Weide, says. With the arrival of the -400, the two Boeing 747-200 aircraft which currently make up Cargo B's fleet will operate as back up and offer extended charter capacity with the option to provide extra flights when appropriate, he says.

rumours
 

charterman,

whatever airplane they get - fact is that crews (pilots & engineers) are being fired - a friend of mine got the call in a hotel at the other end of the world at 3 am:} before a flight.
Nice wake up call - I bet it has been a pleasant flight home :=

Fortis. One of the main investors with in Cargo B look to be introuble. Have a look at this story

Fortis shares slump anew as financial health debate rages - MarketWatch

Lets see what this does to cargo B and their -400 hopes

Fortis is not a investor in Cargo B

It's Petercam who is the owner of the 747 via a specialised company

News floating around today that the 400 delivery has been put back now to the end of November and that money issues are again causing problems:confused:

Any one else hearing the same?

There's alot more than just a new airplane coming their way:E

I hear no 744 before January earliest...

Maxblow - Do tell more.

Can anything last for long in Brussels...?
 

Sabena is gone, and missed...
Was an airline of nice reputation, although not making money since 1959 (except management).
Sobelair followed the same path.
Then there was CityBird... in memoriam.
Do you remember BIAS, with DC8s and DC6s, back in the 1960/70s...
How about Abelag Airways with a 707, turned into Air Belgium and their 737s...
Shall I mention Young Cargo, the two 707 cargo planes...
Remember TEA, which turned into EBA then... call it Virgin Express, now.
What will it be with Cargo B...? Out of business next year...?
xxx
Brussels is an ideal place. The heart of Western Europe.
Right in the middle of Paris, Amsterdam, Cologne, Luxembourg, even London is near.
Passenger or cargo, it is a great location. You got NATO and EU in town.
xxx
Then they get FedEx, DHL, and scare them away. Planes are noisy... Right.
You move to live in Diegem or Steenokkerzeel, didn't you know the airport is next door...?
How come taking off from EBBR, I get vectored over the city, middle of the night...?
Yet my Jeppesen map says P-1 (Prohibited Zone 1) - Do not overfly the city.
xxx
Then, let's talk about Belgian politics. They make me laugh.
I was born there. I can bark in Flemish and French.
When I down a Stella, Maes or Jupiler, I can be anything you want me to be.
Yet, anyone who invests for business in Brussels should have their head examined.
When are Belgians going to learn...? What is left in aviation...?
Oh, I know what is left... A Caravelle hanging from the ceiling in the museum.
xxx
:ugh:
Happy contrails

Without mentioning how incompetent the Belgian CAA are, a real joke!
Aviation in Belgium is long gone...

Belgian CAA...?
You should have known Mr. Destrée, the chief in the 1970s...
Was not exactly my friend.
I think the day he retired, the entire pilot group had a party.
xxx
:E
Happy contrails

747Comet - not now. All still classified !

Tail strike
 

What did I say about them...
Now it is OO-CBA and a tail strike taking off from BRU.
Rear pressure bulkhead probably got it.
You know the rest of the story.
xxx
:(
Not so happy contrails

I also know for a fact they are struggling to fill the aircraft up out of South America:confused:

NCA had an agreement with JETT8. Now they have one with Cargo B. Doesn't seem like very reliable partners for NCA. The new airplanes are 230 million a piece so they better have a top notch insurance.

Just heard Cargo B had a Tail Strike in Brussels, by all accounts a fair bit of damage done.

for the pictures of the tail strike The Aviation Herald