Trying to find a way out of AAI are you?
No info on JADE, but I just wanted to say HI.
I have fond memories of my 2 years at Saujana with AAI. Good times..
Happy hunting and I wish you all the luck in your endeavours...

Jade & Lufthansa
 

... in this long term economic reconstruction plan anybody has news on how Lufthansa will handle his 25% of Jade Cargo?

Thanks

Lufthansa has in place, a 30 year management contract of Jade.

. . . wow! Ambitious expectations. :rolleyes:

50k for a type rating in the 744 ? Crazy, you can get in the US for $13000:ok:

Hi,
does anyone know if they are planing any DEC soon or is it all PICC at the moment?

Well, one can only speculate :confused:
But since they cannot upgrade anybody, I guess they will eventually have to hire DEC's even though they said they would not.

Jade
 

Hey Guys,

Am interested to join Jade Cargo.
Can anybody give me details, how a commuting roster looks like and if the family members also get ID90 Tickets?

Tks cheers:}

even me trying to get in jade as FO...........
any idea on the requirements.......
BR
stone:ok:

Jade Cargo Recent update request
 

Please can anyone tell me what are the latest requirements for joining Jade without a type rating on the 744.Does one have to pay for their own conversion? How does it work, does the company guarantee a loan? Also is a commuting contract available, if so what is the rotation? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

If you have a type rating in a jet that is not available in China ( for example, B747-200, or CRJ-900 ), you need to purchase your own B747-400 type before starting class. Otherwise the company types you, and X amount is deducted from your check every month and then at the end of 3 years you get it back. For commuting you can do what is called a 20X. Basically have 10 days off in a row BUT you have to use your vacation to get that block. Keep in mind, things change almost daily but I believe that is the deal for now.

A PICC is, in the eyes of the CAAC, a fully qualified Captain. ALL check rides, either on the line or in the Sim are PIC. There is no such thing as a PICC as far as China law. When a flying with a heavy crew, The "Captain" logs 50% of the trip as PIC and the PICC logs 50% of the flight as PIC.

Why do they have PICC's? He's a cheap Captain. Will they ever upgrade? No

It's something the companies use to under pay a pilot that has the exact qualifications and sometimes more, than the PIC getting thousands more a month.

Jade Cargo
 

Thanks for the info on that Jaz .What do the guys in this position tend to do? do they go off and pay for a cheaper type rating ( I believe you can do one under $20k) or do they bite the bullet and hope they will last the 3 years?

I'm not really sure if a person gets a choice. If you have a type rating on an aircraft that is not available or no longer available to do your CAAC ATPL, for example, the B747 classic, CRJ900. Then you have no choice but to purchase your own type on the B747-400. If you have your PIC time in say a B767, they have that simulator available in China so you would do your ATPL on that one, and then Jade would type you on the B747-400, then withdraw a big chunk out every month for 3 years, after that time, it would be returned to you. Keep in mind, if you don't have any other prospects and decide to come to Jade as a picc, you will just be a babysitter. Once in a while, you will "be allowed" to take off and land, but it's not regular and it's slightly demeaning, in my experience.

Money not an issue to me.

After 3 years, we can choose to live or stay. Right?

Jade's minimum requirements
 

Hi,

According to Jade's website they are accepting applications for F/O's on the B747-400. The minimum requirement is 1000 hours total time.

Is this requirement realistic? It seems to be very low. I have 2200 hours total time including 1000 hours multi crew on a turboprop (Q400). What are my chances?

Is this the kind of experience level they are interested in? or do they want jet time, in particular wide bodied jets?

Any information regarding the experience levels of applicants would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Up to date Info
 

Can any Pilots working for Jade give an honest opinions/views on working for Jade. Lots of old threads on here but not much up to date info.

Do they allow Pilot crew members to jump seat on their days off?

What to expect if offered a interview?

What are they looking for at interview and how to pass it?

any up to date info appreciated.

website says looking for 20 F/O's, have some left or are they expanding etc.

Taxes
 

Make sure they pay 40+% income tax.:)

Jade Interview
 

Hi,well I've been invited for an interview, please if anyone can give me information on the interview procedure and any thing else to give me a heads up I would be most grateful if you could pm me. Thanks

"Do they allow Pilot crew members to jump seat on their days off?"

No jumpseating what so ever, there are some employee zone fares available on Lufthansa.

"What to expect if offered a interview?"

The first day is a basically a psych and computer based testing day. I've heard Lufthansa uses similar testing. There is about a 30% failure rate that day and you are notified that evening in your room if you need to go home. You can prepare to an extent but if you're a nut job, I'd think twice about wasting your time going. The Dr. is very sharp.

Then you have a sim check in a 737 NG. It's straight forward. steep turn, VOR approach, V1 cut to ILS, visual approach. You can use the A/P for most of it.

There is a "one on one" interview with some technical questions. It's fairly standard and no trick questions. It's mainly to get an idea of your personality.

The medical is usually the last thing you will do and it's pretty intense. If your in poor shape, high anything. Get it taken care of, if possible, before you go in.

It's a hard process and then once you make it through, the training lasts about 3 to 4 months and that is stress free. They want you to make it through and are very helpful.

Of the Chinese airlines, I'd say Jade is probably the best and that mainly has to do with the fact that there is a lot of foreign management and most of the pilots are expats. They are losing guys of course as the available jobs throughout the world are starting to increase. Jade has announced that there will be upgrades which is welcome news for the guys.

Good luck and if you didn't make it to the sept interviews, I'm thinking there will be more to come.....