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AAL
thats the one, the old man is a good engineer he can can make something out of nothing and i have respect for the man for that, but the son is basicly a redneck. gs |
Clearly if there is a propensity by the British MoD to favour the same group of service providers and even reward these dubious air companies, something is seriously wrong If you have a serious beef with the morals of this particular company and have proof, take it to the press or the CAA of the country where they currently base their aircraft (I know for a fact there is a very strong anti- aviation organisation at that particular airport). |
CUT IT OUT. ABUSE NOT WANTED/TOLERATED HERE,
9G-AXA performed a log flight from UK to Bagram last week. 9G-AXA now Air Charter Express is Cargo Plus in disguise and Jonsons Air and all the rest before. LAST WARNING Dear Mr Mod, I sincerely apologise but if big boys pick a fight they must not come running and crying. This gentleman should waste his valuable time counting the positive and negative threads on the forum and will then see a propensity to complain and point problems, discuss them, and offer advice to rectify (what is humanely possible and in our collective powers) instead of only singing praises. I truly believe some might have hit closer home than what was comfortable. Your kind tolerance is never the less appreciated. |
Noted Lemper.
CR2. |
Moral High Ground
This is one topic that never fails to produce a whole spectrum of opinion-long may that continue.
My imput is based purely on experience-can't really say that I learned anything from it though-the circumstances changed, the aims different on each occasion and the pay reflected the risk! Take Rhodesia as an example. Did the U.N. sanctions ACTUALLY acheive much-or were they ever enforced? The answer to both is NO. We had a scheduled DC8-55F service between AMS and LBV (and beyond) plus a regular SAY-MCT service with A40-PA for a number of years. Both carried many a ton of 'sewing machines'. Did the crews revolt or mutiny? Then we turn to Libya in the late 70's and early 80's when UAA bought CL44's and a 707 openly operating them in Europe and Africa despite the so-called blanket sanctions. We carried everything but blankets! Then Libya recruited Edwin ****** a well known ex CIA agent. The USA allowed 2 C130's to be exported thru this character despite his known track record. What the Hercs did is pretty common knowledge but again how far up the ladder did that knowledge go? Moving on-plenty of speculation surrounding the 9G register and Johnsons Air and Heavylift (make it clear here that it is not the Heavylift Cargo Airlines that ops out of Oz). Everyone is aware who heads that one. I recall Sky Air Cargo too-a 707 out of BZN daily on behalf of the MoD during Gulf War Episode 1-despite that a/c having a past as coloured as Jacobs coat. If we return to the high ground-I tried that-with Zimex out of Khartoum supporting the starving in the south of the country-felt the need to do something-trouble was the Gov't of the day wouldn't let us fly. Spent weeks there-flew a handful of flights before the cost became too much-so we went to Vimy, did a weeks charter work for the French free fall team and made lots of dosh! I am sure someone out there can make sense of it. |
This is one topic that never fails to produce a whole spectrum of opinion-long may that continue.
You're right, rrtyne! Anyway, don't you guys think all those "sewing machines" might have "sewed" / would "sew" yourselves? That's the problem as I see it. Feeding the crazy so-called rebel forces with "sewing machines" and "grain combines" can boomerang on us if we're not careful. P.S. Saying "us" I meant the whole airmen' community. Whom should we claim on for killing UNWFP/Red Cross/HRW pilots in southern Sudan? And how about Sierra Leone? Or Somalia? Or Mil Mi-26 down in Afghan? Well, I really don't think all this kind of ops will have been ceased one day. |
About four years ago a Rwanda-based company called Silverback Cargo Freighters emerged on the scene with two DC-8-62 freighters. The aircraft, it seemed, had been acquired from the United States for a "symbolic" price of £10 million each in a complex and untraceable financial deal. For a time one of its aircraft also was sub-leased to a Liberian registered, International Air Services, operating out of the Ras-al-Khaimah free trade zone in the United Arab Emirates. But it soon became apparent, authorities said that in addition to its regular commercial activities Silverback Cargo Freighters also was operating regular flights carrying arms shipments from Eastern Europe to Kigali in Rwanda in clear breach of a United Nations arms embargo. The airline got its wake-up call last summer when Belgian authorities "named and shamed" several airlines it banned from its skies over safety concerns. Silverback Cargo Freighters was high on the list. The move effectively barred the African carrier from Europe and placed it high on the "suspect" list of other aviation authorities. |
Undiemolie,
Unfortunately you are wrong. But at least you state "that apart from their normal commercial flying activities"! Let this fact now stand out and be known: If Silverback ever flew any Military Equipment, it was for their Government to overcome a bitter and extensive War, like any other country's airline, for a war that followed the Genocide in Rwanda, the origins and instigators for which also unfortunately allegedly are seated in Europe, is still in contention and a matter of International Legal Action. The time flights contracted to fly for IAS, was when one another VERY NOTORIOS EUROPEAN was operating International Air Service (IAS). Silverback flew fresh Nile Perch fish to Europe from Mwanza under contract to IAS. Silverback's "wake up call by the Belgians" as you so flippently refer to is a complete political matter, because of the accusations of the instigators, originators, and orchestraters of the Rwandan Genocide, peoples who's lives meant nothing in the course of, you guesed it, expedience. It had nothing to do with Silverback's operation and standard of service and aircraft. Your memory is also vey short, I remind you of the SN Brussels aircraft that was grounded in Kigali because of its technical condition, I never posted the photographs of the condition of the aircraft out of common decency, repect for Belgium and SN Brussels - but I assure you that the issue and matter about this Airbus's condition reverberated through Belgium's Parliament. If you want to debate on these matters you are free - but then at least get your facts straight because you have a skewered perception and version of the matter and events. If you dont know the facts - it and you are dangerous. Get your facts and get them straight. You seem to have an axe to grind with Silverback, have also noticed in the past, and I am sure that if we scratch very lightly under the surface, we will easily discover why. I think I do - and I think I know who you are. This thread started because about 10 days ago the British Government (MoD) expediently contracted known Gun Runners that even they wanted to persecute, to fly military material for them to Bagram. AAL, names again CR2. |
The Moral high ground
Just one question, is Silverback banned in Europe ???
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/air-ban/pdf/list_en.pdf |
Yes, for reasons of political expedience - because the Government of Rwanda persistently accuses Belgium and France for having done nothing during and in their physical presence on the ground in Rwanda, even aiding the Hutu soldiers and rebels that were performing the genocide, and doing nothing to stop the slaughter.
Please dont talk about matters that you dont know - why is SN Brussels interested to buy a into Rwanda Express, Silverback's sister company - if they are not good enough!!! FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE! |
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