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So whats happening with 193C-1199 & -1225


Operated by Air Rum believe getting ready for the Hajj

-1226, also.
Saudi FOC now issued, well ahead of schedule.

Hey 411A knowing that you are not a 'corner cutter" and go by the book, how have you accomplished the Axial Motion AD on the engines?

Been to Dhaka today.....S2-AET is still there and has been for some time now...it is painted in Thai SKY Cargo colours

Deferred by relevant CAA iaw RR documentation, and have the LOA to prove it.
Limited time only, however.

Deferred by relevant CAA

And which Sterling Civil Aviation Authority would that be ??

Certainly well South of EASA and well East of the FAA:}

Yup, just about right...:}

Registration of convenience?
Guess this CAA knows more than Mr. Rolls Royce and Lockheed about what is due and what is not.

411A
Deferred by relevant CAA iaw RR documentation, and have the LOA to prove it.
Limited time only, however.

I can only assume it will cover the Hajj then?

Sort of making a pilgrimage in more ways than one?

Was this like the Orange Air/Linejet N-194AT FAA Ferry permit from MIA last year?
Sorry..... had to laugh and throw that one in.....
Been there done that.
So with the crews operating a known questionable A/D issue and placing your license on the line being fully aware of this, the pay must be really high?
Not a normal flight we have all done them with haj for many years.
Just because someone in a apparent local high position says its ok is not enough, your ass is still on the line if something happens.
Cant have it both ways.....

Are there any Tristar companies left that actually operate correctly , pay the crews as promised and follow the regulations?
Doubt it, seems Globejet with Joe Attalh and Miranda was the last ones, at least with the crew issues!!!!
We were paid and treated well!

You have LUZair and euroAtlantic. They pay their crews, operate the entire year (not only for Hajj) and operate under EASA regulations.

No, not similar at all.
If you actually read above, you will notice that the extension procedure is RR approved....and contrary to what TShirt might expect.

By the way, LineJet has another airplane, from the same source, same circumstances as with the first, is the rumour.
Delivered last month, and it will retain FAA registration.
They also have their Saudi FOC approved, so I'm told.
A third airplane is in the works for these folks, for spares.

No, longer, as follow on contracts are in negotiations now.

411.
The RR letter is standard and I have only seen it issued ( On several occasions) BUT only have to kits have been ordered to at least show there is some intent to comply
To order the kit requires full payment to RR at $125,000 a copy.
Also the RR letter is only support the final approval has to come from the Airworthiness Authority
Of course I am sure that your people have done that :O
Oh silly me - not a problem !:}


Makes no difference.
We (in the USA) do, that's all that matters.
Full stop.
Recognise this from another site:)

You indicate that the FAA are the world Authority but they have never given dispensation for this:ugh:

Try RAF :}

Orbital Science!

They are even converting there aircraft to a -200, removing the 22B's and installing 524's, plus addtional work.

The L1011 market is hotting up!

The ATA aircraft should be sold this coming week!

Couple of freighters are also scheduled for reactivation. (not the Belgian)

Several deals pending in the Middle East!

Any info let me know or PM me.

I heard that the "hostpital ship" is scheduled into Delta for a check and with a plan to put in back into operation?

Only for ops with FAA registry.
As many aeroplanes operate outside of FAA-land (and indeed, outside of EASA-land), it is entirely up to the relevant aviation authority of the country of registration.
All quite basic, TShirt, but I'm sure you knew this already...:ugh:
Yes, so it would seem.
One other -500 operator is about to sign a multi-year charter contract, with another operator looking for a another -500, to do the same.
Quite some positive action in an otherwise down market.

All quite basic, TShirt, but I'm sure you knew this already...

411,
Yes You are correct but my point was that on other forums you are holding the FAA up as the only (world) authority that we should all follow but then you fly for operator (s!) that avoid every FAA rule that may cost them money.

Avoiding the Axial motion AD is purely financial driven and no other reason - they have had 5 years to accomplish this mod and avoided it :ugh:

And just to prempt your next post that the kits are not available, this is BS.
Mr RR has kits available.
Kits are available and Orbital have just carried it out on the 524's they are putting in their aircraft.

Regarding your "FAA ops only" comment this is also rubbish! Even EASA require you to follow FAA AD's on US manufactured products.
If it were not for FAA AD's many countries would not have AD's at all:}

Seems you speak with forked tounge, TShirt.

First, its...
then, its...Really, you should make up your mind, old boy.:}

Now, as to...Entirely correct, and with full RR and regulatory authority compliance, via LOA.
It's called, efficient regulatory approved ops.
We need only look at a few other operators for entirely more obtuse regulatory oversight...bits of engines falling off airplanes at JED, is but one small example.
In fact, after four months of inspections by no less than five regulatory authorities, they all seemed rather impressed with the companies aircraft, and their maintenance state.
Of course, as you undoubtedly know nothing of all this, your comments otherwise are simply unsubstantiated conjecture on your part.
Why should we not be surprised...?:}:ugh:

You got that one correct 411 about some companies and the engines falling apart in jed.
Surprised they have not killed anyone yet with the bad maint. and lack of oversight of this ACMI company.
Funny thing though all of there paperwork is correct.
Compared to the operator I think you are referring to your Tristars should do just fine.

Earl is spot on. Many operators have paperwork that says the maintenance has been done, the Ad complied with, or exemptions but is in reality All Smoke & Mirrors.

Someone needs to start checking the O2 Generators, RAT triggers etc.

Both life limited parts!

x-saudia L1011's
 

are all the x- Saudia 1011's stil in the dessert in saudi, or did they chop them up?Does anyone know there fate?

...and what did happen to the new cargo outfit out of Cyprus?

BTW what Tristar(s) does 411A fly?.

I thought Privilege was the only one (TL-ADW, msn 1242, ex YK-DLC/C-GTSP)

Only 4 remain, the rest have been parted out.
That particular airplane is a superb example of a very well maintained -500.
They have spent quite a lot on it....and it shows.

...and what did happen to the new cargo outfit out of Cyprus?

Never began planned ops.
However, the jungle drums are beginning to beat once again about the 'possible' start of ops...strange as it may seem:}
The 'ole TriStar seems headed in the same direction as the old soldier that Douglas MacArthur spoke about many years ago...will not die, only slowly slowly fade away.

As for the Saudia L1011's. They started breaking them up but not too much to salvage there.
Two mechanics were killed a couple of weeks ago taking one apart when the fuel tank blew up!
Saudia investigating so everything has come to a full stop.

New Haj outfit out of Arizona?
 

Anyone heard of Tiger Air International, Scottsdale Arizona, L1011 operator?:ugh:

Tiger Air International, Scottsdale Arizona
 

Believe they are trying to buy the ATA aircraft.

Few hurdles remain such as one of the ATA aircraft at VCV that is subject of Chapter11 for VAL (Victorville Aerospace). The "C Check" bill is some $800k so 2 courts will need to decide that one before that ship goes anywhere.

Lots of movement all over the place on the L1011 front, probably mainly due to the imminent Hajj.

OldCessna:

How much would it cost to buy one of the ATA 500s? (without the pending bills, of course).

Thanks

C.

Camilo,

About $1m each is the current number.

Re:New Haj outfit out of Arizona?
 

:D So much silence from the typically vocal Arizona Tristar PPRUNER??

L1011 for sale.
 

Here.

Someone on this thread maybe interested.

why the hell would you post that on ebay?

As are the horizontal stabilizer attach pins.

Carl,
Yes but the Stab pins are cycle limited whereas the other are calendar limited.

There is a conception by some operator that if it is not flying its OK:ugh:

The problem is that as these TC units are installed at build when the life expires there is a whole bunch due at the same time !!:hmm:

Unless you are 411 then you just get a LOA ( He really likes those !) from you LOCAL friendly airworthiness authority !!:ok:

ATA L1011's
 

The first bankruptcy court decision should be today to decide who gets the first batch of ex ATA L1011's

Most bidders want to fly them so there's life in the old girl yet!

American Aviation Investments wants the airline the 121 certificate and aircraft.

This outfit is owned by George Soros who has plenty of financial clout!

RAK Airways
 

I heard that RAK Airways picked up & is planning to operate the L1011F Freighter S/N: 1212 that had been grounded at Fujairah

Anyone with more info?

Outstanding Mr Tristar 411,
Your experience here amazes us all.
You want to operate the 522 engine Tristars with the engine Ad/s overdue, just because you register them in a country that sees other way on these things does not make it correct.
You make all pilots look bad.
No Pro here guys, just someone after the bucks because he is nearing retirement.
Captains such as this avoid.