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VP8 3rd October 2006 05:20

Belfast/slow heading for the air??
 
Heard a rumour that BEPS is getting a few props hung on the engines:eek:

Is the Old Gal finally leaving these shores??

VEEPS

antonovman 3rd October 2006 07:36

hey VEEPS have you read your emails lately ?

Bigt 3rd October 2006 16:39

Is it heading south - down under - to join the other one?

or is it joining the CL-44-O?

Phileas Fogg 3rd October 2006 17:32

But HLA barely had enough engines to keep one Belfast in the air so where have these extra engines seemingly appeared from, or did HLA have it wrong and there were plenty of engines available all along?

VP8 3rd October 2006 20:26

Allegedly thay have 3 engines hung expecting 4th this week followed by rest of props:eek:

VEEPS

Phileas Fogg 3rd October 2006 20:49

Greetings VEEPS, BBQ's on fire escapes and all that!

Are you still in the same location or was there some falling out with ADB, PM me if you like.

Fellow fire escape BBQ'ee

VP8 3rd October 2006 22:57


Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg (Post 2887125)
Greetings VEEPS, BBQ's on fire escapes and all that!
Are you still in the same location or was there some falling out with ADB, PM me if you like.
Fellow fire escape BBQ'ee

Heyup Chuck

Barbie still fine

Same job, different company / different location.....Ruslan International / Endeavour House :}

ADB split from AFH after contract ended

VEEPS:ok:

Chille Con Carnie 4th October 2006 20:26

look,s like they have had three engines in for sometime now & Props no,s 1 & 2 have been fitted over the last few day,s.It would be great to see her fly again along with the 707 which is coming along.

Phileas Fogg 4th October 2006 21:00

VEEPS,
Ah but does Endeavour House have a fire escape with security cameras to train on the BBQ to establish, from sitting indoors, when the BBQ has caught fire?

May one presume that Ruslan is a combination of ADB & VDA?

I'm off to Ukraine again in 3 weeks from now but not travelling via Kiev to experience the joys of an AN-24, flying direct into Dnepropetrovsk on a Fokker 70 ..... absolute joy!

VP8 4th October 2006 22:11


Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg (Post 2889203)
VEEPS,
Ah but does Endeavour House have a fire escape with security cameras to train on the BBQ to establish, from sitting indoors, when the BBQ has caught fire?
May one presume that Ruslan is a combination of ADB & VDA?
I'm off to Ukraine again in 3 weeks from now but not travelling via Kiev to experience the joys of an AN-24, flying direct into Dnepropetrovsk on a Fokker 70 ..... absolute joy!

NO
YES
Good Luck:ok:

VEEPS

britflyer 4th October 2006 23:47

Hows things...?
 
Hey Vpeeps

Hi Matey,

Greetings from the land of tango...Hows things goin there.:ok:

I will try and pop in next week for a nose-round to say hi...
Have you got an office number there I can call to see who will be on..?

Tell Jim I will try and call him this week to meet him for a beer in Luton..:D

Steve

Hockham Admiral 5th October 2006 12:43

:) Phileas Fogg, Hi
To answer your question re serviceable engines, the problem with HLA was that they had to follow CAA directives to TBO's on the Tyne (about 4000 hrs). However RR lifed the Tyne for about 7000 hrs and other regulatory authorities will accept that..well, some will!
VEEP's, Brgds, Mate

Phileas Fogg 5th October 2006 13:24

OK J.R. now I understand, it was the Campaign Against Aviation :)

Hockham Admiral 5th October 2006 17:01

:} Phileas, what's with "was"?

Phileas Fogg 5th October 2006 17:11

OK, 'is', 'shall always be' etc.

Do you remember 'Swampy'? Aaah, the good ole days :)

Chille Con Carnie 6th October 2006 17:53

If anyone,s interested Belfast had No,1 prop turning today.Hopefully there be more whining Tyne,s shortly.
707 looks great with her new old paint livery,QANTAS AUSTRALIAS OVERSEAS AIRLINE.

freightdoggy dog 6th October 2006 18:39

Sounds like a job for WAH WAH to take down to Aus!

Tech stopping at the Turkish bath houses and Thai massage palours:ok:

Could even get Swallow back from digging his allotment !

HZ123 8th October 2006 15:27

On an admin issue how does the aircraft stand in respect of its registration. Who is the AOC for it and will it have to leave the UK on another register?

The AvgasDinosaur 8th October 2006 16:44

It would make sense for her to go 9L- Sierra Leone like her sister.
As for Tyne overhauls who does the tynes in the Atlantic ASW aircraft ?
Be lucky
David

The AvgasDinosaur 10th October 2006 10:23

I just hope:eek: There is enough work for both beasties and she is not just to replace the first one out there. Does anyone know how busy they are out there heard they had a couple of Boeing 727s on line too?
Be lucky
David

monkeytoast 10th October 2006 12:49

They've got a couple of 727 freighters running out of Qld, along with the live belfast.

The current one seems pretty busy, though a little notorious for delays due to engine troubles. I've seen it go through Perth a couple of times in the last year and I've stood next to it once in Port Hedland (presumably dropping off mining supplies, it's a mining town). Last time I saw it in Perth, it stayed on the ground for 3 days due to engine problems.

My first encounter with the belSlow was stepping off a 146 one morning at a normally empty airport, looking up and discovering that you can put turboprops on something bigger than a fokker 50 and that there was a plane even cuter than a quadrapuff (I think I have a thing for fisher price looking planes). The guy sharing my taxi that day couldn't shut me up about it the whole ride!

Standing next to the Heavylift was probably the moment that turned me onto planes forever and sent me scrambling looking for aviation jobs, so I'd have to say a second airborne one would be absolutely WONDERFUL!

Failing that, I'd like a nice little diecast model one for my desk at least..sigh..what I'd give to go for a fly in that thingy! What are the rules about shipping yourself as oversize cargo again....:}

Toast.

GuppyEng.com 11th October 2006 05:32

Try the model shop in the Sheraton at Heathrow.
They also have a nice model of the Guppy!

Chille Con Carnie 19th October 2006 17:40

No.4 turning today just need to hang a prop on No.3 to complete the set.Does anyone know whats happening about gear swings?

freightdoggy dog 19th October 2006 18:40

Dave Brown and Phil Jong have been contracted in to do the gear swings apparently!

The AvgasDinosaur 22nd October 2006 12:25

Found this recent shot of 'PS at SND
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5838155
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

Cathar 22nd October 2006 15:06


On an admin issue how does the aircraft stand in respect of its registration. Who is the AOC for it and will it have to leave the UK on another register?


It would make sense for her to go 9L- Sierra Leone like her sister.
I understand that Sierra Leone has taken on responsibility for the State of Design functions for the Belfast including type certification. This is why the other Belfast is on the Sierra Leone register. As you may be aware, all Sierra Leone registered aircraft in the UK are subject to a Direction to prevent flying (and all Sierra Leone AOC holders are banned from operating in the EC). I have difficulty in believing any state other than Sierra Leone will register the aircraft and issue an CofA on the basis of a Sierra Leone type certificate. If it is registered in Sierra Leone it will not be permitted to fly.

Stanstedeye 28th November 2006 20:44

Any news?
 

Originally Posted by Chille Con Carnie (Post 2893005)
If anyone,s interested Belfast had No,1 prop turning today.Hopefully there be more whining Tyne,s shortly.
707 looks great with her new old paint livery,QANTAS AUSTRALIAS OVERSEAS AIRLINE.

No news since 08/10/06. Any further developments ?

The AvgasDinosaur 13th December 2006 21:33


Originally Posted by Cathar (Post 2922482)
.........the other Belfast is on the Sierra Leone register. As you may be aware, all Sierra Leone registered aircraft in the UK are subject to a Direction to prevent flying (and all Sierra Leone AOC holders are banned from operating in the EC). y.

Please pardon my ignorance, If the secound Belfast is not registerd in Sierra Leone will this cause crew roster problems with crews requiring licences in more than one country?
Be lucky
David

JW411 14th December 2006 13:26

The answer in a nutshell is "No". The crews can simply fly on a validation from one country or the other.

Hockham Admiral 14th December 2006 17:09

:} AVG-D, I was involved with the original Sierra Leone registration and the short answer to this is that I doubt if any other country would licence her. If they did then they would be a similar-type AOC "licencer". ie: most things go!
It has been asked how they can get her out of Southend; this was a similar problem we had with FT before I flew her up to PIK for work before she went to Oz. Basically there was a back way that overcome CAA objections.

Ada Quonsett 17th December 2006 16:36

Belfast 9L-LDQ
 
'Belfast 9L-LDQ departed Cairns for Brisbane on November 23 and after over-nighting continued as flight HVY461 to Fua'amotu, Tonga. It then returned to Brisbane as flight HVY462 on November 25.'
http://www.ausaviation.com.au/Online...ic/traffic.htm


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