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trancada 4th Mar 2018 20:32

Any rumours for a fleet expansion?

slam_dunk 23rd Jul 2018 06:03


trancada 24th Jul 2018 11:37

Cargologicair will expand with B737BCF, B767, B777 and add more B747-8

mole man 17th Aug 2018 13:34

I had a call from an agency looking for Loadmasters, they would not tell me who, may be Cargo Logic any body else been approached.

Mole Man

CargoMatatu 18th Aug 2018 08:09

It might be for Kalitta Air.
I see on LinkedIn that they are expanding and hiring across the board, including Loadmasters "worldwide".

trancada 29th Nov 2018 21:41

They are hiring again TR and NTR

aceman18 18th Jan 2019 13:03

NTR FO Job
 
I've seen CLA are recruiting NTR First Officers.
There's a bit of info on the job advert regarding T's and C's, but very little regarding rosters and yearly block time. Could anyone shed any light on how many hours to expect a year?

GE115b 21st Jan 2019 09:36

Just wondering what the gross and net is for a FO?

Also looking into the future a little, what would be time to command and the gross/ net for a CPT?

Cheers

Rougueg 1st Feb 2019 10:37

Looking for any info.

current rosters
time to command
what it's like as a company to work for
hotel standard
any likelihood of a payrise?
aircraft and maintenance standards?
Roster stability.
bonding arrangements

Thank you for your help

slam_dunk 9th Aug 2019 07:42

See: CargoLogicAir pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools

SkyHawk1985 9th Aug 2019 07:55

That’s strange as they reducing their fleet by 25%. They will/already parked 1 aircraft. I am surprised that they still want to recruit

SaulGoodman 10th Aug 2019 07:47


Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985 (Post 10540647)
That’s strange as they reducing their fleet by 25%. They will/already parked 1 aircraft. I am surprised that they still want to recruit

Are you sure of this?

SkyHawk1985 10th Aug 2019 08:18

Yeah unfortunately that’s true. I think it will be G-CLBA

SkyHawk1985 10th Aug 2019 16:50

There is another rumor now that the current CEO quit. Hopefully the company will be reconstructed and go forward

SkyHawk1985 20th Nov 2019 11:37

News regarding CLA. Unfortunately the future does not seem bright. The management announced 50% job cuts - at least flight crew. They had stopped flying to ATL, MEX, IAH and DWC. They have announced as well that they will stay with 2 aircraft. Very sad news. I really wish they will recover.

Twiglet1 12th Feb 2020 14:41

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...ds-b747-8f-ops

SkyHawk1985 12th Feb 2020 16:02

The ex-Martinair management did a great job - NOT. Unfortunately the days of this company are numbered. They have 2 planes now but only one seems to fly once every 2 weeks or so.

Tace 12th Feb 2020 18:07

Many Cargo companies are suffering due to the US-China trade embargo and now the coronavirus outbreak.
Still you always have a choice...... find the door and leave, or stay and be part of the team working towards a solution.
Appreciate if there was less unwanted influence by AirBridgeCargo and more competent, stronger willed senior managers matters may have been, or can still be, better.

sewushr 12th Feb 2020 19:28

The reduction to 2 aircraft (50% cut in capacity) was announced by parent company the Volga Dnepr Group some time ago.

C-H Aviation's (paywalled) 'news' story about them ceasing B747-8 ops is also a bit dated. Think G-CLAB may not have flown for CargoLogicAir since late December and it was de-registered on transfer to Air Bridge Cargo on 3rd February.

SkyHawk1985 17th Feb 2020 19:38


Originally Posted by Tace (Post 10686173)
Many Cargo companies are suffering due to the US-China trade embargo and now the coronavirus outbreak.
Still you always have a choice...... find the door and leave, or stay and be part of the team working towards a solution.

Of course definitely i would leave asap. Everything else it would be a gamble for the family's and personal well being. Nobody wants to play with that, i suppose. I always try to see the trend and in this case the trend is negative. How on earth a company is going to survive by having 2 planes sitting around and flying a couple of times in a week. Planes have to fly in order to make money. Now the coronavirus outbreak indeed affected the pax flying but cargo companies like Cargolux just released a couple of days ago strong China cargo market.
https://delano.lu/d/detail/news/coro...flights/209476 . Now i understand that there must always be some hope, especially the employees who invested time in this company but I would strongly suggest to try and be a bit more realistic. Tho whole VD group seems to struggle after the NATO contract cancelation almost 2 years ago. ABC alegently is struggling to pay the crews and rumor says that CLA was called by the UK CAA to justify their business plan. Generally since the new ex-Martinair management came into power they were only bad news and this is not my opinion it is the fact. Another rumor says that the company had to find a DFO asap and got a 70 year old pensioner. I don't know if all these are true or just rumors but if i was still working in this company i would definitely struggle to sleep.

FrontRunner 18th Feb 2020 15:45


Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985 (Post 10689926)
Now the coronavirus outbreak indeed affected the pax flying but cargo companies like Cargolux just released a couple of days ago strong China cargo market.
https://delano.lu/d/detail/news/coro...flights/209476

No, Cargolux did not release "a couple of days ago strong China cargo market."

Read the article!

The airline wrote on Friday: “We expect our service to China to increase in the coming weeks to accommodate the resumption of factory production. These flights will, however, be operated in accordance with recommendations from the WHO and other regulatory bodies as well as Cargolux’s own restrictions including no crew layovers in China.
The airline anticipated a backlog of work to “replenish inventory levels and to provide required parts and materiel for manufacturers outside of China, e.g. the automobile industry. This situation could well result in a surge in demand for air freight capacity out of China when production recommences,” it wrote.
"Expect," "anticipate" "and could" are not facts, as a 'pilot' you should know that!

So now let's look at the FACTS in that same article:


In a press release issued on Friday evening, Cargolux said that the outbreak, combined with the Chinese New Year, had a “significant impact on demand for air freight out of China as many factories have not yet re-opened.

As a result, Cargolux and Cargolux Italia reduced their frequencies into China to adjust to the market situation.
Look at FlightRadar24 and you'll see most flights to the Middle East turn around and fly back empty to LUX, instead of continuing to HKG and flights to/from CGO, PVG, PEK, XMN are a fraction of what they normally would be. Only a few flights continue to the Far East from the Middle East and ASB.

How is this a "strong China cargo market?"

SkyHawk1985 19th Feb 2020 14:05

I guess this post isn't about Cargolux but Cargologic. The fact IS that today they announced they will suspend the operations for the next couple of months. It was an article regarding the coronavirus results. If as an airline you expect to pick up the backlog of the ops i think you should try at least to hang in there. CLA crews and employees are paying very expensive the total mess that the previous management left. I really wish the best for them. P.S. FrontRunner you seem a bit stressed out, chill out buddy.

What about this article then?
https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ghter-flights/

Tace 20th Feb 2020 10:02

SkyHawk1985, I take it you are or were a CLA employee, my guess is you are working for the company still (or has a partner in the company) as all you seemingly post is about CLA. I hope the 1985 in your name doesn't relate to your DOB or when you started in the industry as I am sure that you could be easily identified and you could be in a sticky situation with your posts if the CLA management wanted to check up on you! :oh:
Here is hoping that no airline goes under because the company uses COVID-19 as an excuse.
And Front Runner, thanks for balancing the statement submitted by SkyHawk1985. All facts must be considered, as should the wording within. :)

SkyHawk1985 20th Feb 2020 15:15

No i am not working for this company nor an affiliate. You are guessing wrong. I would never share info. If i don't like it were i am working and my job conditions i always try to change that myself and not start moaning. That's not my style. It is just lets say I was a huge supporter of this setup and i got disappointed by the previous management. By the way i am not sharing secret info. When the CAA is involved any reporter who wants to find what's going on, they just can call them. At the end of the day are they flying? nope. Have they reduced fleet? Yes. Its simple its not any secret. I really wish they can recover

Flightmech 25th Feb 2020 13:14

Looking worse....

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ds-operations/

Rottweiler22 27th Feb 2020 19:59

https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...136969.article

A sad end. It’s already on Wikipedia as ceasing ops on 9th Feb. Website down too. My heart goes out to all involved, I know exactly what it’s like.

SaulGoodman 28th Feb 2020 07:46

ACG also suspends ops. 3 747’s.

aBlon 29th Feb 2020 17:58

I am so lucky.... i have passed the interview at their offices near Heathrow last march with their HR head and an Ex-Ba Cpt TRI/TRE on the 747, very kind gentleman and honest too when i asked him at the end few questions about the operations and some advices as well. In the other hand this young lady (Head of HR) and her totally UNPROFESSIONAL behaviour on her replies through email after the interview (which was successful), in fact she never replied to me when i asked about taxation and such things so i did understand that the management or at least part of it was totally unorganised/inexperienced. All that plus the joke money they were offering for a first officer position made me not bother to even go to the simulator assessment in Frankfurt.
Very sad news though for the people working there...seems that 2020 will not be a great year not only in aviation but in a lot of industries.

N707ZS 22nd Apr 2020 18:23

Just seen news they are starting up again with two 747Fs.

hailstone 23rd Apr 2020 05:24


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10759472)
Just seen news they are starting up again with two 747Fs.

707 -
who, ACG ? do you have a source ?

N707ZS 23rd Apr 2020 06:51

Traced my steps from yesterday and found the website with it on. Hope it helps someone.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...th-two-b747fs/

hailstone 23rd Apr 2020 09:17


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 10759922)
Traced my steps from yesterday and found the website with it on. Hope it helps someone.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...th-two-b747fs/

indeed, thanks - let's see if and when they (Cargo Logic Air / CLA and not Air Cargo Global / ACG) will take off again - am certain that their "parent" is keen on capitalizing on current rate levels

negativeclimb 23rd Apr 2020 13:52

one of their airplanes is already in the air according to FR24.

GKOC41 23rd Apr 2020 16:45

Makes sense there is hugh demand

SkyHawk1985 25th Apr 2020 09:36

These are very good news!!! Of course as i said in a previous post they should wait and they actually made it! Covid-19 maybe a killer for the pax flying but is an opportunity for the cargo airlines to serve the world and expand. Hopefully they will stay for long this time!


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